SH's 315 Strategy - how to use if effectively

[trade4joisar]

Taken shorts yesterday at 4970 (3 EMA touch) ... normal position size.
SH

SH,

This is 2nd crossover after > 5% fall right ?

Normal position size ? Because day before yesterday 3 Left & yesterday touched?

Can you elaborate more on this?

Thanks

 

[MANX2611]

i will try

thanks

 

[mdrafi67]

Taken shorts yesterday at 4970 (3 EMA touch) ... normal position size.

Buy whipsawed as expected.

Cheers
SH

hi,
first of all i wud like to appreciate n thank for ur efforts. I have a small question for u can we apply this SH-315 strategy to commodities. I'm back testing the strategy on commodities. but i have few doubts. If u can throw some light on it regarding commodities -mcx,comex. thank u. hope u will reply me. thank u.

 

[trade4putuval]

hi,
first of all i wud like to appreciate n thank for ur efforts. I have a small question for u can we apply this SH-315 strategy to commodities. I'm back testing the strategy on commodities. but i have few doubts. If u can throw some light on it regarding commodities -mcx,comex. thank u. hope u will reply me. thank u.

I have tried this strategy on Crude Oil, Natural gas, Silver, Copper and Nickel. Lead and Aluminium strictly NO. Gold being a hedge commodity, sometimes, 315 does not work. Hope I have been helpful.

 

[vinst]

I have tried this strategy on Crude Oil, Natural gas, Silver, Copper and Nickel. Lead and Aluminium strictly NO. Gold being a hedge commodity, sometimes, 315 does not work. Hope I have been helpful.

I remember having read in threads of SH that 5-34 could be better choice for commodities. pls search in this thread.

 

[TradeJoker]

very active thread. and nice strategy for commodities, u shud backtest this system for its proftablity.just try yourself.its very important to learn the backtesting.and for a crossover system,keep it simple as it,dont add too much probability thinking on it.

 

[gb333]

NF Bullish cross today... this may lead....

 

[mdrafi67]

I have tried this strategy on Crude Oil, Natural gas, Silver, Copper and Nickel. Lead and Aluminium strictly NO. Gold being a hedge commodity, sometimes, 315 does not work. Hope I have been helpful.

THANK U...VERY MUCH FOR THE REPLY.........DO U USE ANYOTHER STRATEGY OTHER THAN SH-315 WHILE SINCE USING SH-315 ALONG WITH IT TO TRADE THE COMMODITIES...................PLS ENLIGHTEN WITH SOME DETAILS...HOPE TO HEAR FROM U SOON...ONCE AGAIN THANK U :thumb:

 

[Tradewithhunter]

SH,

This is 2nd crossover after > 5% fall right ?

Normal position size ? Because day before yesterday 3 Left & yesterday touched?

Can you elaborate more on this?

Thanks

Trade - nope .. I have explained this before.

After a good trending 315 move ... Nifty has a tendency to whipsaw ..so on first crossover i usually take smaller position size (i skipped it entirely this time) .. once that crossover whips I take normal position size.... now today even the second crossover whipped so I have take longs now (double quantity)

Cheers
SH

 

[trade4joisar]

Originally Posted by Tradewithhunter
Markets at 5351 right now .... around 430 points profit on original lot ...... I have booked 50% today ... just holding the rest 50%.

Over the last 3 years of me trading 315, I have observed one thing on charts as well as on my ledger. This is something I have shared in the past as well i.e the cyclical nature of the market.

It means that every trend is followed by a rangebound market and every range is followed by a trend..... we hardly get a trending move immediately after a trending move and ranges do not continue forever. This is why we dont see a lot of 'V' shaped patterns on EOD charts.

A desciplined trader needs to stick to the system however also needs to adjust to the cycles and vary his trade sizes accordingly. I have been trying to proactively anticipate these cycles for last 1 year and now can share my 'sizing' strategy to the 315 traders here for their assessment and application.

My original strategy said that each trade needs to have equal trade size (Though in the past I kind of leaked my strategy by taking double trade quantity after 3 whips).

My 'amended' position size strategy is below.

After a good trending move is over (a move exceeding 5% and above excursion in favour of the 315 trade):

1. Take 50% of normal trade size on the next crossover .. there is a 'high' chance that this crossover will be a fake. A conservative trader can also decide to skip this crossover completely or take an small positions in options.

2. Take 50% of normal trade size in futures if the above crossover fails. This means that we are back in the bigger trend and hence the chances of a whip are relatively moderate.

3. Take normal trade size if the above crossover also fails. This means that markets have gone into some sort of range and a new trend is about to begin.

4. Take 200% of normal trade size as in rare scenarios, the 3rd crossover also might fail. This happened with us once recently. This means the markets have gone into a prolonged range and hence the start of a new trend is imminent.

By adjusting the position sizing, we will be losing less during whips and earn more with trends. Do backtest the same and post your comments/queries.

Cheers
SH

Trade - nope .. I have explained this before.

After a good trending 315 move ... Nifty has a tendency to whipsaw ..so on first crossover i usually take smaller position size (i skipped it entirely this time) .. once that crossover whips I take normal position size.... now today even the second crossover whipped so I have take longs now (double quantity)

Cheers
SH

This post is just to clarity move after good trendiing 315 strategy.

SH,

I just to want to clear my doubts nothing else.