Absolute Beginner Guide.

[sanyad74]

anyone know how to find equity script on NSE
for example
RCOM
its ISIN code INE330H01018. what is this

let me know about core project also
How to differentiate equity and future and options by script on NSE ?

 

[parna_dd]

Re: .:|Absolute Beginner Guide for Day Trading|:.

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[parna_dd]

Thank you for a nice thread. Is should be continue.

 

[irfan91]

Thank you for a nice thread. Is should be continue.

Hello I want to know besics of Stock market, Please can anybody explan me the actual flow of stock market, suppose one company is there and the want to enter a stock market then who decide the stock price for that company shares and so on ..please explain clearly specially seniors....

 

[rai_m]

hi to all

 

[ravichandrancr]

Re: General Guide to Day Trading

Here I will guide you about the setups needed fort day trading.

First off all you need to arrange all the inventories before starting day trading. I will describe below what you need to do first. All are inconsideration that you want to be a dedicated online trader and need to have a fool proof trading system. This setup will keep you in trading as far as you want.

1. Open a Bank Account, Demat Account & Online Trading Account. You can contact a broker firm to get these accounts opened.
Brokerage firms: Sharekhan, Geojit, Religare, Reliance Money, HDFC, ICICIDirect, etc.

Funds from your bank will be transferred to the trading account. Then shares can be brought using that money. The shares you brought will be held on your demat account.
While buying a share: Bank account -> (cash) Trading Account -> (shares) Demat Account
While selling a share: Demat Account (shares) -> Trading Account (cash) -> Bank Account

The above transactions attracts certain commissions, known as brokerages. Since, above the value of shares you will be charged some small amount of money as brokerages. Also you will be charged some taxes for these transactions and for the gain.

Brokerage: For the whole buy and sell value,
STT(Security Transaction Tax): Calculated on the Weighted Average Price of the client for a particular days turnover,
Stamp Duty,
Service Tax,
etc.
This doesn't include income tax. You need to pay a particular % of income tax for all your Gains only, Also you can deduct your losses from the Gains for the calculation of income tax.

I will post a real life example of a transaction.

Share: UNITECH LTD
No of Shares brought: 200
Buy Price: 147.85
Total Amount: Rs: 29570
Brokerage: Rs: 15
Service Tax: Rs:1.86
NET COST OF BUY: Rs: 29586.86

Now you have a Trading Account ready to buy and sell shares.
For day traders the shares are brought and sold in the same day itself.
So these shares will not actually go to your demat account.

Now we can discuss about other client setups.
Consider you are a dedicated trader who trades from your home or office, you need to have the below hardwares and softwares.

1. Sufficient Trading Capital (Money).
3. A good Computer System.
4. A Power Back Up System.
5. A good Trading Terminal Software.
6. A very good Internet Connection.
7. A calm environment where other will not disturb you.

Sufficient Trading Capital
You should have sufficient fund for trading. Broker firms allow you to trade more than the money you have for non-delivery trading(day trading) or for 6 days trading with some brokers like Sharekhan. This is known as leverage, its good you can buy more for less money but, say for example if you have Rs:1000 the broker firm may allow you to trade for 4000 and for even 10000 with some brokers. But high leveraged trading is extremely dangerous and it will kill your trading capital. So try to be less leverage as possible.

See the danger of leveraged trading by an example,
One have taken the leverage of 10 times his trading capital of 1000 and brought shares worth 10000.
Brought ABC 100 share for Rs:100
After 15 minutes the share price is not moving up but going down. So he decided to sell the shares at the current price to limit the losses.
He sold at: Rs:90, means he lost Rs:10 per share.
So, Total loss = 10*100 = 1000. Now Rs: 1000 will be deducted from his trading account. Now his trading capital is 0, means he cannot trade since there is no money left.

His Capital: 1000
Brought in leverage: 10000
Lost 1000
Now his Capital: 0
Like wise if you have gained and booked profit at 110 you will gain 1000. Means you have made 1000 from 1000 from a single trade. But a single loss will kill a greater percentage of your capital and you will get pain to even recover from the loss.

I know I have detailed roughly about leverage. But consider, many traders left trading just because they traded with highly leveraged money. So my advice is to not leverage or leverage very less but never leverage more than 4 times(4000 from 1000). As a thumb rule don't loose more than 1% to 2% of your money in any single trade and not more than 10% at any time.

Computer System
These days all computers are highly powered so there is no need to discuss much but, for a dedicated online trader I recommend the following computer setups.
Processor: Dual Core min. 3.2 Ghz(1.6*2)
RAM: 1 GB or more if you are using Windows XP or higher versions.
Monitor: Preferably 2 monitors. 15inch minimum. One for Charts/Graphs and the other for orders and Index tracking.
Browsers: Internet Explorer + Opera or FireFox

Power Back Up System
You must have a power back up system over your conventional 20 minute UPS. Buy a UPS which gives atleast 1 hour back up or buy some other kind of backup system. Even if the power fails you must be able to trade for the next 1 hour atleast even if you have no power cuts in your area.

Trading Terminal Software
As a day trader you should have a trading terminal rather than brokers webpage trading. For this you can signup for brokers providing software terminals to trade. Below are some brokers who provides softwares.

Sharekhan: Provides Software(with technical analysis tools).
ICICIDirect: Donot provides software (So, not suitable for day traders).
Religare: Provides Software.

[Optional]
If you can buy technical analysis softwares (like MetaStock, Amibroker, etc) will be a good idea. Also you need to buy good real time data feeds inorder to see charts and prices in MetaStock, Amibroker,etc. Softwares provided by brokers doesn't need additional data feeds. The advantage of these Technical Analysis softwares over broker's trading terminal softwares are the higher ability to do technical analysis.

Internet Connection
A proper internet connection is a must for every trader. A 250Kbps internet connection will smooth out your trading. Also take a backup connection from a different company inorder to continue trading when the other connection fails of any reason.
Backup Connection is not expensive if you take a usb data card wireless connection or mobile edge internet connection. All these are available for as low as 400 per month or even less. You may also activate the backup connection from your mobile service provider and can use your mobile as modem to access internet through GPRS or EDGE. All mobile service providers have this facility for less than 250 per month. This will save you from a sudden internet blackout.


I wrote these all in a jiffy manner, so please correct if I have missed something or did anything wrong. Will update and add more advanced topics regarding day trading soon. But I need your feedback, questions, complaints, etc to keep me in track.

Thank you,
Hari.

Dear Hari,
for someone desperately searching these information, you seem to have given the perfect advise. Hope you will help us some more
Thanks
Looking for ward to more posts.

 

[share.senthil]

Re: General Guide to Day Trading

hello ya.
just read your valuable post,
no comments to say , its really good, where to read for next,

senthil
bangalore

Here I will guide you about the setups needed fort day trading.

First off all you need to arrange all the inventories before starting day trading. I will describe below what you need to do first. All are inconsideration that you want to be a dedicated online trader and need to have a fool proof trading system. This setup will keep you in trading as far as you want.

1. Open a Bank Account, Demat Account & Online Trading Account. You can contact a broker firm to get these accounts opened.
Brokerage firms: Sharekhan, Geojit, Religare, Reliance Money, HDFC, ICICIDirect, etc.

Funds from your bank will be transferred to the trading account. Then shares can be brought using that money. The shares you brought will be held on your demat account.
While buying a share: Bank account -> (cash) Trading Account -> (shares) Demat Account
While selling a share: Demat Account (shares) -> Trading Account (cash) -> Bank Account

The above transactions attracts certain commissions, known as brokerages. Since, above the value of shares you will be charged some small amount of money as brokerages. Also you will be charged some taxes for these transactions and for the gain.

Brokerage: For the whole buy and sell value,
STT(Security Transaction Tax): Calculated on the Weighted Average Price of the client for a particular days turnover,
Stamp Duty,
Service Tax,
etc.
This doesn't include income tax. You need to pay a particular % of income tax for all your Gains only, Also you can deduct your losses from the Gains for the calculation of income tax.

I will post a real life example of a transaction.

Share: UNITECH LTD
No of Shares brought: 200
Buy Price: 147.85
Total Amount: Rs: 29570
Brokerage: Rs: 15
Service Tax: Rs:1.86
NET COST OF BUY: Rs: 29586.86

Now you have a Trading Account ready to buy and sell shares.
For day traders the shares are brought and sold in the same day itself.
So these shares will not actually go to your demat account.

Now we can discuss about other client setups.
Consider you are a dedicated trader who trades from your home or office, you need to have the below hardwares and softwares.

1. Sufficient Trading Capital (Money).
3. A good Computer System.
4. A Power Back Up System.
5. A good Trading Terminal Software.
6. A very good Internet Connection.
7. A calm environment where other will not disturb you.

Sufficient Trading Capital
You should have sufficient fund for trading. Broker firms allow you to trade more than the money you have for non-delivery trading(day trading) or for 6 days trading with some brokers like Sharekhan. This is known as leverage, its good you can buy more for less money but, say for example if you have Rs:1000 the broker firm may allow you to trade for 4000 and for even 10000 with some brokers. But high leveraged trading is extremely dangerous and it will kill your trading capital. So try to be less leverage as possible.

See the danger of leveraged trading by an example,
One have taken the leverage of 10 times his trading capital of 1000 and brought shares worth 10000.
Brought ABC 100 share for Rs:100
After 15 minutes the share price is not moving up but going down. So he decided to sell the shares at the current price to limit the losses.
He sold at: Rs:90, means he lost Rs:10 per share.
So, Total loss = 10*100 = 1000. Now Rs: 1000 will be deducted from his trading account. Now his trading capital is 0, means he cannot trade since there is no money left.

His Capital: 1000
Brought in leverage: 10000
Lost 1000
Now his Capital: 0
Like wise if you have gained and booked profit at 110 you will gain 1000. Means you have made 1000 from 1000 from a single trade. But a single loss will kill a greater percentage of your capital and you will get pain to even recover from the loss.

I know I have detailed roughly about leverage. But consider, many traders left trading just because they traded with highly leveraged money. So my advice is to not leverage or leverage very less but never leverage more than 4 times(4000 from 1000). As a thumb rule don't loose more than 1% to 2% of your money in any single trade and not more than 10% at any time.

Computer System
These days all computers are highly powered so there is no need to discuss much but, for a dedicated online trader I recommend the following computer setups.
Processor: Dual Core min. 3.2 Ghz(1.6*2)
RAM: 1 GB or more if you are using Windows XP or higher versions.
Monitor: Preferably 2 monitors. 15inch minimum. One for Charts/Graphs and the other for orders and Index tracking.
Browsers: Internet Explorer + Opera or FireFox

Power Back Up System
You must have a power back up system over your conventional 20 minute UPS. Buy a UPS which gives atleast 1 hour back up or buy some other kind of backup system. Even if the power fails you must be able to trade for the next 1 hour atleast even if you have no power cuts in your area.

Trading Terminal Software
As a day trader you should have a trading terminal rather than brokers webpage trading. For this you can signup for brokers providing software terminals to trade. Below are some brokers who provides softwares.

Sharekhan: Provides Software(with technical analysis tools).
ICICIDirect: Donot provides software (So, not suitable for day traders).
Religare: Provides Software.

[Optional]
If you can buy technical analysis softwares (like MetaStock, Amibroker, etc) will be a good idea. Also you need to buy good real time data feeds inorder to see charts and prices in MetaStock, Amibroker,etc. Softwares provided by brokers doesn't need additional data feeds. The advantage of these Technical Analysis softwares over broker's trading terminal softwares are the higher ability to do technical analysis.

Internet Connection
A proper internet connection is a must for every trader. A 250Kbps internet connection will smooth out your trading. Also take a backup connection from a different company inorder to continue trading when the other connection fails of any reason.
Backup Connection is not expensive if you take a usb data card wireless connection or mobile edge internet connection. All these are available for as low as 400 per month or even less. You may also activate the backup connection from your mobile service provider and can use your mobile as modem to access internet through GPRS or EDGE. All mobile service providers have this facility for less than 250 per month. This will save you from a sudden internet blackout.


I wrote these all in a jiffy manner, so please correct if I have missed something or did anything wrong. Will update and add more advanced topics regarding day trading soon. But I need your feedback, questions, complaints, etc to keep me in track.

Thank you,
Hari.

 

[NOMINDTR]

Hello I want to know besics of Stock market, Please can anybody explan me the actual flow of stock market, suppose one company is there and the want to enter a stock market then who decide the stock price for that company shares and so on ..please explain clearly specially seniors....

Dear friend,

What you have asked is not at all a simple question at least, for a beginner.
I love it. Many people consistently do a mistake by not rising layman's questions when they enter into any new field. That itself kills the roots of the learning curve. I mean this in very general sense and I don't mean that to enter in stock trading one must know each and everything about stocks which may be inappropriate.

Let me write this post in small segments, if you let me know whether you this post exactly mean what you needed to know.

In India, there are thress type of Business bodies exist.

1. Proprietorship
2. Partnership
3. Company

Each form of business has different legal arrangements.

Proprietorship is a person who invests for a business and runs it.
In the eyes of law, a proprietor himself or herself is considered as the organization.

Assets, Loans, Profits of the business = Assets, Loans, Profits of the Proprietor
To put it in simple words, the business is simply represented by the person who holds the "ownership" of the business

Partnership firm is a business run by more than one person.
Group of people enter into a legal contract. By executing a legal deed, they enter into the business. The deed describes each partner's investment and return in legal terms.

Company is also run by group of people, but they entirely different from a partnership firm. Management and ownership of a company is clearly distinguished by law. There can not be a "owner" for a company.

Here comes the concept of "Share". Again there are two kind of companies under Companies Act. They are Private Limited companies and Public Limited companies.

If and only if you find this post correctly points at where you need to start to know things, I would be interested to post about how and why a company distributes shares to public? and how and why people exchange the shares among them by trading through exchanges.

 

[irfan91]

Thanks Gsalvadi it was very intresting specially the way of your explaing please do ahead...I want to know more...

 

[irfan91]

Dear friend,

What you have asked is not at all a simple question at least, for a beginner.
I love it. Many people consistently do a mistake by not rising layman's questions when they enter into any new field. That itself kills the roots of the learning curve. I mean this in very general sense and I don't mean that to enter in stock trading one must know each and everything about stocks which may be inappropriate.

Let me write this post in small segments, if you let me know whether you this post exactly mean what you needed to know.

In India, there are thress type of Business bodies exist.

1. Proprietorship
2. Partnership
3. Company

Each form of business has different legal arrangements.

Proprietorship is a person who invests for a business and runs it.
In the eyes of law, a proprietor himself or herself is considered as the organization.

Assets, Loans, Profits of the business = Assets, Loans, Profits of the Proprietor
To put it in simple words, the business is simply represented by the person who holds the "ownership" of the business

Partnership firm is a business run by more than one person.
Group of people enter into a legal contract. By executing a legal deed, they enter into the business. The deed describes each partner's investment and return in legal terms.

Company is also run by group of people, but they entirely different from a partnership firm. Management and ownership of a company is clearly distinguished by law. There can not be a "owner" for a company.

Here comes the concept of "Share". Again there are two kind of companies under Companies Act. They are Private Limited companies and Public Limited companies.

If and only if you find this post correctly points at where you need to start to know things, I would be interested to post about how and why a company distributes shares to public? and how and why people exchange the shares among them by trading through exchanges.

Thanks Gsalvadi it was very intresting specially the way of your explaing please do ahead...I want to know more...