:::the future lies in the past :::

[amibrokerfans]

posted on 8th april,13

a retracement or a south journey?
these images for educational purpose only.

 

[justy]

Dear Justy!
Please accept my heartfelt applause.
:clapping::clap::clapping:

I am feeling rewarded.
You have stumbled upon a unique concept! DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS.
Your observation was correct when you saw that price is respecting it.
Dude what you draw was a 45 deg line.
And now you know why Gann said 45 deg is such an important angle.
I hope now make sense when I said in the previous post that concepts are
similar however approach is different.

I WILL DISCUSS THIS CONCEPT IN ITS TOTALITY WHEN WE WILL DISCUSS PRICE.

However onething, I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS HOW THESE SQUARES
CAN BE USEFUL WITH REGARDS TO FINDING FUTURE PIVOT. MEANS FINDING A
FUTURE TOP OR BOTTOM. I AM TALKING ABOUT TIME, YOU OBSERVED PRICE.


Please dont feel bad, I understand it was a Eureka moment for you, and
keep posting your charts would love to see more.

Guys this is the power of geometry, first time he attempted the
geometrical
method and discovered/observed something unique.

Justy although you answered the question wrong, your effort is
appreciated, you made it to the promised book, will PM you after
sometime.

I am not posting the solution of concept 2 as of now as did not get
enough
observation/findings as requested
Need more!

Hi Prashant Sir,
i have been waiting for the promised book.....

 

[maneverfix]

I dont know from were to start.....
however I can promise this thread is going to be different, very different!

I joined traderji long back, and used to go through the threads silently seldom posting anything.While there are some beautiful threads which are based on indicators, price action, candlesticks,etc, did not find any thread which addressed the concept of TIME......how to TIME the market.

The Great Master William Dilbert Gann often used to say "There is nothing new under the Sun".He was a master trader because he knew how to TIME the market impeccably. He would not trade allthrough the year, he would wait for the right TIME and would make few trades.

If I have to say what is the single most important factor behind any market.

It is not price.
It is not volume.
It is not momentum.
It is the TIME.
Because when the TIME is up trend changes, as said by WD Gann so often.

Before you come to the conclusion that it is another Gann thread,
let me tell you it is not, as there are already Gann threads here.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT TIME, AND HOW TO TIME THE MARKET.
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HOW TO FORECAST UPCOMING PIVOTS 1 MONTH IN ADVANCE
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT SMALL BEAUTIFUL NUGGETS YOU WILL COME ACROSS WHICH ARE RIDICULOUSLY SIMPLE.

Some of you know who have studied Gann, will smell a contradiction here
as I am talking about TIME, Gann was the person who propagated the concept of TIME, however I am saying it is not a Gann thread.
It is very important to address this issue at the onset.

I started with Gann, read many books, however I found it is too much of hassle, and cant devote that much time as required. Advanced students of Gann know he was heavily into astrology, when I was convinced it was astrology what Gann was doing I abandoned the approach. Even for Gann himself it took him 20 years of disciplined study.

Gann used Numerology, Astrology and Geometry.
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GEOMETRICAL METHODS!

Any book or course written by Gann, I did not find Gann using Geometry,
however it is a common knowledge that Gann was a free mason of highest
order. This thread is not about Gann, however most of the methods will be
geometrical in nature.

REQUEST:
If you do not like this thread or do not agree with the contents
of this thread just leave. While you did not like it, there would be few who can see some value in it.

CAUTION:
YOU WILL COME ACROSS MANY NUGGETS/IDEAS/CONCEPTS/METHODS TO FORECAST AN UPCOMING PIVOT,PLEASE NEVER PUT YOUR MONEY BASED ON ONE SINGLE METHOD, IT'S WHEN MORE THAN TWO METHODS POINT ABOUT UPCOMING PIVOT ON THE SAME DATE, THAT IS THE TRADE TO TAKE.

I hope I would be able to do some value addition in Traderji.

Priceless Value addition Sir

 

[shruti.trader]

hello prashant ji , pls keep posting...nice ones

 

[chirag9ajmeri]

I dont know from were to start.....
however I can promise this thread is going to be different, very different!

I joined traderji long back, and used to go through the threads silently seldom posting anything.While there are some beautiful threads which are based on indicators, price action, candlesticks,etc, did not find any thread which addressed the concept of TIME......how to TIME the market.

The Great Master William Dilbert Gann often used to say "There is nothing new under the Sun".He was a master trader because he knew how to TIME the market impeccably. He would not trade allthrough the year, he would wait for the right TIME and would make few trades.

If I have to say what is the single most important factor behind any market.

It is not price.
It is not volume.
It is not momentum.
It is the TIME.
Because when the TIME is up trend changes, as said by WD Gann so often.

Before you come to the conclusion that it is another Gann thread,
let me tell you it is not, as there are already Gann threads here.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT TIME, AND HOW TO TIME THE MARKET.
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT HOW TO FORECAST UPCOMING PIVOTS 1 MONTH IN ADVANCE
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT SMALL BEAUTIFUL NUGGETS YOU WILL COME ACROSS WHICH ARE RIDICULOUSLY SIMPLE.

Some of you know who have studied Gann, will smell a contradiction here
as I am talking about TIME, Gann was the person who propagated the concept of TIME, however I am saying it is not a Gann thread.
It is very important to address this issue at the onset.

I started with Gann, read many books, however I found it is too much of hassle, and cant devote that much time as required. Advanced students of Gann know he was heavily into astrology, when I was convinced it was astrology what Gann was doing I abandoned the approach. Even for Gann himself it took him 20 years of disciplined study.

Gann used Numerology, Astrology and Geometry.
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GEOMETRICAL METHODS!

Any book or course written by Gann, I did not find Gann using Geometry,
however it is a common knowledge that Gann was a free mason of highest
order. This thread is not about Gann, however most of the methods will be
geometrical in nature.

REQUEST:
If you do not like this thread or do not agree with the contents
of this thread just leave. While you did not like it, there would be few who can see some value in it.

CAUTION:
YOU WILL COME ACROSS MANY NUGGETS/IDEAS/CONCEPTS/METHODS TO FORECAST AN UPCOMING PIVOT,PLEASE NEVER PUT YOUR MONEY BASED ON ONE SINGLE METHOD, IT'S WHEN MORE THAN TWO METHODS POINT ABOUT UPCOMING PIVOT ON THE SAME DATE, THAT IS THE TRADE TO TAKE.

I hope I would be able to do some value addition in Traderji.

Thank y. Lrashant

 

[faizal]

CONCEPT 7 :: TWEAKING THE GANN FAN:: ANOTHER WAY TO ARRIVE AT THE PRICE

Every one of us has seen the Gann Grid, and will agree that it is a great tool.
Gann said to draw the 45 deg line, 22 and a half deg line, 67 and a half deg line.
However there is a problem.
These lines will show the magic only when the chart is correctly scaled and squared.
It's been a long time I am facing this problem" HOW TO DRAW A CORRECTLY SCALED
AND SQUARED CHART".
The definition of a Squared chart would be a chart were 1 unit of time shows movement
of 1 unit of price. To be honest I dont know how to draw a squared chart.
Following problems needs to be addressed.
1. If price has travelled 300 points in 20 days, will that be trading days or calender days.
here we see charts in trading days.
2. Say for e.g Nifty, what would be right the scale for one unit of time vis a vis price,
means one unit of price should consist of how many points.
3. How to arrive at this calculation.

If somebody can show me the Math, the calculation along with the chart I would be eternally grateful.

This posting is about Gann Fan and I am coming to the point now.
Consider two charts of Nifty, one is stretched, one is compressed.
NOW THE QUESTION IS HOW THE SAME SET OF ANGLES, AS SUGGESTED BY GANN, CAN FULLFILL BOTH THE CHARTS.


THE SOLUTION ::
I arrived at this observation accidentally when I was struggling ( by the way still struggling ) with the SQUARED CHART PROBLEM.
WHAT IF I USE THE GEOMETRY OF THE CHART ITSELF. For Every stock it will have its own degree of inclination or declination. People who use Median line Techniques will connect with this instantly.
WHAT IF I PREPARE THE GANN FAN BASED ON THE ANGLE A PARTICULAR STOCK ROSE OR FALL. To my amazement it gave a great picture of what price will face. A network of future support and resistance.
Check out the Gann Fan tweaked and derived from the angle of the swing.

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PS: Tweaking the things is one way, doing the things right way is another.
If somebody knows how to draw CORRECTLY SCALED AND SQUARED CHART, PLEASE
COME FORWARD WITH THE SOLUTION, IT WOULD BE A GREAT SERVICE TO THE
PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT FORUM.

PS.The second chart says same swing is considered for both the charts, which is not the case. Just one word " OOPS! "

sir ,I am a student of gann methods,I recently came across this thread,excellent extrapolation of gann & michael jenkins in the indian context.You& DPkaur are the gems of this thread-Enlighten us more about the Master Gann's methods
pm me for the correct scaling solution

faizal

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[eagle007]

Parshant sir Where have you gone We want more stuff and some guidance about Gann, Hope You are doing good

 

[stockstopp]

So what is happening here, any one active.

Any one tried using, son, cos, tan?

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[Robertea]

Thank you for sharing itis greatly appreciated. Are your charts still accessible ?

 

[carbonmimetic]

Hello everyone, after so many years I returned to this forum by chance doing a search on the VESICA PISCIS; I have carefully read these few pages and I thank the author ... I would like to give my small contribution and therefore I copy what I wrote on Tuesday 3 May on another forum:

Hi everyone,
today interest rate news on AUDUSD.....
I am attaching these graphs (AUDUSD 1H) because after so many years I am still surprised to see such a harmony of price and time. I understood something very important: the fundamental swings for the time and price projections are those marked with 1234 points...that is:
12_last climb before the last collapse
23_last collapse before the first ascent
34_first impulse up (the seed of the plant as Jenkins says)
together they form a sort of big S
I have to understand absolutely how they are related mathematically