Market Operators - Do they exist ? Who actually runs the show?

Do they exist in your price/volume observation experience and do they manipulate?


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hills_5000

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#71
HI Nisha,

I read through the whole thread today. Lovely :)

And why has it gone quiet ?

Regards


:D

I highly suspect this is state-of-art work Orchrasted by likes of Amarsingh, Chidambaram, PC Gupta and Corporate Tops (RIL,TATA,SEBI, NSE,Brokers)...

This is very similar state-of-art work as that was done to bring Sensex from 16000 to 21000 within no time and trapped people and left nowhere....

Since this looting is done behing the scene govt does not have much risk of loosing vote bank...so this is safe looting this way...:D

By the way how is Dr Rama Lingam Raju doing in so called 5 star jail being questioned by those who already were a hiddenly part of the scam ?? :D

Nothing happened to no-one and recently Telgi what can happen to Dr Rama Lingam Raju ??? :D
 

atulaw

Active Member
#72
What happened today at 11:17am
If this is not the work of operators.. what is it?

 

bunny

Well-Known Member
#73
What happened today at 11:17am
If this is not the work of operators.. what is it?

Hi Atul,
If you are interested in tracking the operator's action, you can download the PDF file(23 MB) from my signature. It deals with how to read volume and basic price data to make a judgment about the operator's action, something called as 'Volume Spread Analysis'.
 

abhiwhy

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#74
believe it or not (finantech ki badi news aane wali hai .) ye monday bhagegi :clap:
 
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abhiwhy

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first of all answer me a simple but million $ question : do ghosts exist :confused:

answer : no body knows but what we know ,we are frightened by them ,whether they exist on not . :D

same is true here , these people are operating minds throughout the nation via, a pan India network of trading communities and clients linked through phones messages emails and yahoo messenger (most famous one ).

they take position in any script suppose abc ltd. then they sends rumors that this perticular script is going to be operated by operators for a specified day or any other rumor , these callsare received by some people and these receiving people distributed all over the country further transmit this information on their sub networks , result is that everyone employs or exhausts his whole trading limit with maximum possible exposer in that script for that fraction of time , it happens so fast that these people not even do not care for any disclosed quantity or limit price , every single order is a market order and result is
atulaw chart . of dlf .:rofl:

i have an experience of that , i had a person in contact via. my friend he was claiming that he works in finance ministry and has access to stock sensitive information , he used to give me calls any time in day between 1-2.30 per day and believe me prices used to move like bullet. but later in evening i used to die to get any press release or any news , but i never found any matching. unfortunately he no longer gives any calls now.

thats what a market operator is , he is not a market operator or market manipulator but mind operator

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abhiwhy

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#77
If so, then why aren't all top psychiatrists legendary traders?
May be you should thought longer than a second on this.

Obviously boy, you don't know what an operator is and how they work.
there have been several sucessfull books authors and traders for reading the market psychology , and if u will study psychology paper in graduation pg or higher levels ,u will find it all about statistics , more the data u have more accurate the results are considered , psychology is based on a general assumptions that if data is being collected at randum then it is correct and provides the perfect picture of survey or average human mind thinking. ta is also use of statistical methods by way of indicators , to read the market psychology so in this sense there have been millions of sucessful psychiatrists in the market .

market is nothing but a large gathering of people which is driven by emotions and sentiments , and analysts have been using price as basic data for reading the minds of people as an overall and thats why technicals have been a powerful tool in the hands of an analyst and therefore we have seen so many great and sucessfull experts like fibonacci , gann , wilder ,nilson etc who not only tought us the lessons but also made into millions and billions of $ .

every strong move or volume in the market is not due to operators , there are other classes of people also , investment companies , institutional investors (fii, dii ) and smart investors plays a major role , in the markets movements , if they have to take any buy position in market at present price they can't do it so easiy , for it they firstly need to make market fall first so they starts hostile selling and shorting and our emotional market flaws in emotions and starts exiting and takes market towards bottom , or several times they let the market to bottom out and then take huge positions at the lower levels . and in any way it can not be called an operator action ..

daily people are crying operator - operator and there is no such thing upto great extent , may be sometimes market may get into manipulation but operators effect is more psychological than practical .

indeed market operators are nothing but mind operator baby . :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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bunny

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every strong move or volume in the market is not due to operators , there are other classes of people also , investment companies , institutional investors (fii, dii ) and smart investors plays a major role , in the markets movements , if they have to take any buy position in market at present price they can't do it so easiy , for it they firstly need to make market fall first so they starts hostile selling and shorting and our emotional market flaws in emotions and starts exiting and takes market towards bottom , or several times they let the market to bottom out and then take huge positions at the lower levels . and in any way it can not be called an operator action ..
Sorry, but they are the operators themselves.
 
#79
hi,

You guyz shud have understood this before. All the market makers specialists always there to make suck into wrong position of the trade if you don't have discipline patience.

This the hardest painful lesson yesteryears successful traders have been advising.
 

abhiwhy

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#80
Sorry, but they are the operators themselves.
i don't think so !

if u would call everyone else as an operator then in ncfm modules and other books there would be a modification in market participants topic it should be as follows :

there are 3 kinds of participants in the market

pramotors

investors and

operators


(but it is not like that )

harshad mehta ketan parekh and other people belongs to this category , these are organised people working in decentralised and planned way with their networks all over the country with a clear intention to harm the market for selfish interests .

if u call fii , dii , fund houses and investment companies as operator then i see there is a good scope for amendment in securities and regulation act about such new clauses :D

most among these need to inform regulating bodies such as SEBI about their positions and investments and are very strictly regulated , there is also proper survilence in market by respective exchange about their positions and trading .:sos:

There are different category of people and organisations which participate in market with different motives and techniques , so ,there is no scope for any such defination as an operatotor is a person who trades smartly and any other participant other than common investor is an operator .

abhi :)
 

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