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And the news is the MP from NCP has been booked by CBI after the court instructed CBI to do so. Question remains tough, as to why CBI did NOT do it earlier, without waiting for the court instructions.
Sick! But we all have developed a mindset to get used to such and similar things.
For an election, candidates declare the number of cases that they have been alleged to have committed the crimes like, dacoity, armed or non-armed robbery, murder or attempt to murder, rape or attempt to rape, and likewise.
Every time the candidate claims that it is through political vendetta. May be or My be NOT.
If there are dozens of cases against the candidate, then ethically, the person has to clear all of them, before going in for the next election after five years. This is rather easy for such a candidate, who wins the election and has all the power needed, and also the money, for getting things cleared.
And yet, they all are unable to do it. It is not at all the priority.
Worst is the stand of the political parties, who support such persons whole heartedly.
Take the case of Mr Patil, and he has been defended by the party spokesman, saying that it is only an allegation. Fifty years ago, the MPs of those times resigned on ethical grounds. Lal Bahadur Shastry, who was a railway minister in Nehru’s ministry, resigned after a major railway accident, taking the moral responsibility.
That ‘Moral” part, is missing in today’s politicians.
Mera Bharat Mahan
SS
And the news is the MP from NCP has been booked by CBI after the court instructed CBI to do so. Question remains tough, as to why CBI did NOT do it earlier, without waiting for the court instructions.
Sick! But we all have developed a mindset to get used to such and similar things.
For an election, candidates declare the number of cases that they have been alleged to have committed the crimes like, dacoity, armed or non-armed robbery, murder or attempt to murder, rape or attempt to rape, and likewise.
Every time the candidate claims that it is through political vendetta. May be or My be NOT.
If there are dozens of cases against the candidate, then ethically, the person has to clear all of them, before going in for the next election after five years. This is rather easy for such a candidate, who wins the election and has all the power needed, and also the money, for getting things cleared.
And yet, they all are unable to do it. It is not at all the priority.
Worst is the stand of the political parties, who support such persons whole heartedly.
Take the case of Mr Patil, and he has been defended by the party spokesman, saying that it is only an allegation. Fifty years ago, the MPs of those times resigned on ethical grounds. Lal Bahadur Shastry, who was a railway minister in Nehru’s ministry, resigned after a major railway accident, taking the moral responsibility.
That ‘Moral” part, is missing in today’s politicians.
Mera Bharat Mahan
SS
Hi!
I just got some more feed back about the attacks in Australia, which … in a way … are a sort of a warning. My friend from Australia writes, and I quote :
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“Indian bashing took a nasty turn in Sydney. The trouble started when Indian vigilants bashed up a few Lebanese men and the Lebanese are noted gangsters, not to be messed around with.. While the Lebanese and Indians are having it out on the streets the blame is being assigned to all Aussies..”
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So we can expect some more news about the “Racist attacks in Australia” without having checked them really.
But in anyway, they cannot be equivalent to the clashes between any two rival political parties in India, each side being led by a leader having allegations for Murder, attempt to murder, rape, attempt to rape, dacoity, robbery, attempt to dacoity and/or robbery, etc etc.
And yet the said political leader and the political party that he beings to shall never show any feeling of being ashamed…. then why should their counter parts in Australia ?
Mera Bharat Mahan
SS
I just got some more feed back about the attacks in Australia, which … in a way … are a sort of a warning. My friend from Australia writes, and I quote :
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“Indian bashing took a nasty turn in Sydney. The trouble started when Indian vigilants bashed up a few Lebanese men and the Lebanese are noted gangsters, not to be messed around with.. While the Lebanese and Indians are having it out on the streets the blame is being assigned to all Aussies..”
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So we can expect some more news about the “Racist attacks in Australia” without having checked them really.
But in anyway, they cannot be equivalent to the clashes between any two rival political parties in India, each side being led by a leader having allegations for Murder, attempt to murder, rape, attempt to rape, dacoity, robbery, attempt to dacoity and/or robbery, etc etc.
And yet the said political leader and the political party that he beings to shall never show any feeling of being ashamed…. then why should their counter parts in Australia ?
Mera Bharat Mahan
SS
Hi!
One look around tells you many things. During the last elections in European countries, the voter’s turnout was NOT encouraging.
Germany had 42.90% which was the lowest since 1979, when direct voting commenced there. For the East European countries, that have come out of USSR, things are NOT different either.
In Romania, just over a quarter of voters voted. In Lithuania, it was just 20.9 percent. And Slovakia solidified its status as the champions of apathy with just 19.6 percent finding their way to the polling stations, though that was an improvement on the 17.4 percent who voted in 2004.
German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schuble repeated an idea he has voiced before of allowing Europeans to have a direct vote for a European Union president. This means that like USA, we shall someday have the United States of Europe.
Atleast for the time being, no such thing appears possible for the Asian countries.
But one major point which was raised in many European countries, may become important for every country in future : “Should Non-Voters be Fined or Voters be Paid ?“
Officially, that is. Unofficially, many political parties are alleged to be paying voters to vote for their candidates. That is different. Ideally, it is the white collared group, that stays away from voting, and should be offered benefits in Income Tax, to make them vote.
But with a poor literacy levels in India, majority of the citizens do NOT know, what they are voting for, and for that matter, they also do NOT know what is good for them.
In a profit making company, the company prospers and so does everyone working for that company. But employees of a loss making company never accept this fact and keep demanding higher wages and bonuses evenif the company continues to make losses.
I call this a Prostitute type of view because in such a case, one thinks only for today and misses a long term view point. Needless to say, that the future for such entities is always bad.
With the tented representatives getting elected through their muscle power, and using the position making more money and harassing more people, we still call it a democracy.
Mera Bharat Mahan
SS
One look around tells you many things. During the last elections in European countries, the voter’s turnout was NOT encouraging.
Germany had 42.90% which was the lowest since 1979, when direct voting commenced there. For the East European countries, that have come out of USSR, things are NOT different either.
In Romania, just over a quarter of voters voted. In Lithuania, it was just 20.9 percent. And Slovakia solidified its status as the champions of apathy with just 19.6 percent finding their way to the polling stations, though that was an improvement on the 17.4 percent who voted in 2004.
German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schuble repeated an idea he has voiced before of allowing Europeans to have a direct vote for a European Union president. This means that like USA, we shall someday have the United States of Europe.
Atleast for the time being, no such thing appears possible for the Asian countries.
But one major point which was raised in many European countries, may become important for every country in future : “Should Non-Voters be Fined or Voters be Paid ?“
Officially, that is. Unofficially, many political parties are alleged to be paying voters to vote for their candidates. That is different. Ideally, it is the white collared group, that stays away from voting, and should be offered benefits in Income Tax, to make them vote.
But with a poor literacy levels in India, majority of the citizens do NOT know, what they are voting for, and for that matter, they also do NOT know what is good for them.
In a profit making company, the company prospers and so does everyone working for that company. But employees of a loss making company never accept this fact and keep demanding higher wages and bonuses evenif the company continues to make losses.
I call this a Prostitute type of view because in such a case, one thinks only for today and misses a long term view point. Needless to say, that the future for such entities is always bad.
With the tented representatives getting elected through their muscle power, and using the position making more money and harassing more people, we still call it a democracy.
Mera Bharat Mahan
SS
SS,
Interesting thread you are running here. Just wanted to comment on the Aussie Racial Attacks.
Lets look at it this way,
Rich kids go to Australia (poor students can barely afford a air ticket, forget the fees) and some get hit and there is a lot of hype and hoopla in India.
Poor persons go to Middle East to make a living. Many get bashed up, ill treated, cannot practise their religion, etc, etc, do we hear even a whimper?
Poor persons come to mumbai to carve out a living. They get bashed up and the party that bashes up manages to get quite a large vote share. While they did not win this time,would not be surprising if they open the account in next elections.
Do we have demonstrations or comments by PM the way he has commented on Australia. Nah!. Why, because there is hardly any adverse media coverage in the same way that they are covering Australia now.
Many a time, I feel that we have surrendered our thoughts and views to the Free Media and follow them blindly.
Food for thought, eh?
Interesting thread you are running here. Just wanted to comment on the Aussie Racial Attacks.
Lets look at it this way,
Rich kids go to Australia (poor students can barely afford a air ticket, forget the fees) and some get hit and there is a lot of hype and hoopla in India.
Poor persons go to Middle East to make a living. Many get bashed up, ill treated, cannot practise their religion, etc, etc, do we hear even a whimper?
Poor persons come to mumbai to carve out a living. They get bashed up and the party that bashes up manages to get quite a large vote share. While they did not win this time,would not be surprising if they open the account in next elections.
Do we have demonstrations or comments by PM the way he has commented on Australia. Nah!. Why, because there is hardly any adverse media coverage in the same way that they are covering Australia now.
Many a time, I feel that we have surrendered our thoughts and views to the Free Media and follow them blindly.
Food for thought, eh?
Hi!
And while on the Media and it’s way of functioning, that we are already watching the noise being made by the TV Media against MS Dhoni.
Let us assume that there was a drift between Dhoni & Sehwag. Let us also assume that Sehwag had an injury and was unfit to play a match or two.
If the drift did NOT exist, either of the two, or both would have made attempts to work it out, and see if Sehwag turns out to be fit earlier than expected.
That is NOT what happened. Sehwag returned home. Whether he returned on his own or was sent back has nothing to do with me personally.
But the way the Media is after Dhoni, is definitely incorrect. If the rest of the players watch these channels, then their moral is definitely going to go down. Dhoni, from his face during the press conference, appears disturbed.
Will this all help Indian team to remain supreme and retain the world cup … is the question media should actually consider.
But like the politicians and bureaucrats, the Media has also started enjoying the mis-use of power, and therefore shall care a damn about the results of the rest of the matches for the Indian Cricket team in the T-20 world cup.
And something goes wrong, they have already found a scape-goat in Dhoni…. and BCCI may follow the media reports to punish Dhoni.
One question remains though….. had the media NOT made all this fuss, would the picture have been different? I think so. Dhoni could have possibly managed to keep rest of the team together, and the team would have faced all the balance matches with high spirits.
Hope that this still happens and India retains the T-20 World-cup.
But if it does NOT, I think the responsibility lies totally on the irresponsible India TV Media.
Cheers!
SS
And while on the Media and it’s way of functioning, that we are already watching the noise being made by the TV Media against MS Dhoni.
Let us assume that there was a drift between Dhoni & Sehwag. Let us also assume that Sehwag had an injury and was unfit to play a match or two.
If the drift did NOT exist, either of the two, or both would have made attempts to work it out, and see if Sehwag turns out to be fit earlier than expected.
That is NOT what happened. Sehwag returned home. Whether he returned on his own or was sent back has nothing to do with me personally.
But the way the Media is after Dhoni, is definitely incorrect. If the rest of the players watch these channels, then their moral is definitely going to go down. Dhoni, from his face during the press conference, appears disturbed.
Will this all help Indian team to remain supreme and retain the world cup … is the question media should actually consider.
But like the politicians and bureaucrats, the Media has also started enjoying the mis-use of power, and therefore shall care a damn about the results of the rest of the matches for the Indian Cricket team in the T-20 world cup.
And something goes wrong, they have already found a scape-goat in Dhoni…. and BCCI may follow the media reports to punish Dhoni.
One question remains though….. had the media NOT made all this fuss, would the picture have been different? I think so. Dhoni could have possibly managed to keep rest of the team together, and the team would have faced all the balance matches with high spirits.
Hope that this still happens and India retains the T-20 World-cup.
But if it does NOT, I think the responsibility lies totally on the irresponsible India TV Media.
Cheers!
SS
Hi!
The Politics is dirty… whether for our country or any other country…. And appears to be encouraging people to do a dirty work. Unless it is done in a non-selfish way, and only for the benefit of your country
Months ago, the US govt gave money to Bank of America [BOA] to buy the troubled Merrill Lynch. Now it appears that BOA is hesitant of taking any steps to move ahead and buy Merrill Lynch. It appears that US Feds have threatened to sac the CEO of BOA, if this purchase is NOT done immediately.
What does this amounts to? A fresh kiosk in the US markets?
And the CEO blames the Feds that he was forced to buy the Merrill Lynch, even when he had pointed them out the high amount of losses made by Merrill Lynch.
This is something similar to what happens in our beloved country. Then why do we all show our dis-satisfaction? Why people still respect American democracy over that in our country?
Answer is simple. When this happens in the US, every person from the govt, whether elected senator or employee of a govt department, each one is personally liable, responsible and accountable for the mistakes done knowingly or un-knowingly, and could face prosecution with penalties to be paid and also a possible imprisonment. And that too, within weeks as the court do NOT delay the matter, and believe that “Justice delayed is Justice denied”.
Poor guys…. they cannot ask questions like “Do you know who I am?” or “Do you know who my father is?” , showing the link with the govt servant considered to be above the law, and expected to shield his “chamcha” from the law….. and the court cases that take decades to come up for hearing, and therefore virtually denying the Justice through the delay.
Mera Bharat Mahan !
Cheers!
SS
The Politics is dirty… whether for our country or any other country…. And appears to be encouraging people to do a dirty work. Unless it is done in a non-selfish way, and only for the benefit of your country
Months ago, the US govt gave money to Bank of America [BOA] to buy the troubled Merrill Lynch. Now it appears that BOA is hesitant of taking any steps to move ahead and buy Merrill Lynch. It appears that US Feds have threatened to sac the CEO of BOA, if this purchase is NOT done immediately.
What does this amounts to? A fresh kiosk in the US markets?
And the CEO blames the Feds that he was forced to buy the Merrill Lynch, even when he had pointed them out the high amount of losses made by Merrill Lynch.
This is something similar to what happens in our beloved country. Then why do we all show our dis-satisfaction? Why people still respect American democracy over that in our country?
Answer is simple. When this happens in the US, every person from the govt, whether elected senator or employee of a govt department, each one is personally liable, responsible and accountable for the mistakes done knowingly or un-knowingly, and could face prosecution with penalties to be paid and also a possible imprisonment. And that too, within weeks as the court do NOT delay the matter, and believe that “Justice delayed is Justice denied”.
Poor guys…. they cannot ask questions like “Do you know who I am?” or “Do you know who my father is?” , showing the link with the govt servant considered to be above the law, and expected to shield his “chamcha” from the law….. and the court cases that take decades to come up for hearing, and therefore virtually denying the Justice through the delay.
Mera Bharat Mahan !
Cheers!
SS
About 1.3 million people are likely to lose jobs in the export units in the current financial year due to recession in the developed countries, an UNCTAD study said.
However, the net job loss in the export sector is estimated to be 7.48 lakh since some sectors like plantation may witness a positive growth.
The study said, during 2009-10, India's total exports are likely to dip by 2.2 per cent.
"Petroleum products will experience the maximum decline in export growth followed by gems and jewellery, ores and minerals and textiles and its products," it said.
However, the situation will improve in the next fiscal, when new jobs would be created in the sector, which employs about 50 million people.
"In 2010-11, about 5.22 million jobs could be created. "No job losses are expected as all sectors are expected to experience positive export growth," it said.
In 2008-09, about 1.16 million people lost their jobs due to negative export growth in sectors such as textiles.
With external shipments contracting for the sixth month in a row, the country's exports aggregated USD 168.70 billion in 2008-09, managing a paltry growth rate of 3.4 per cent.
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/1.3-mn-may-lose-jobs-in-200910-unctad/475500/
However, the net job loss in the export sector is estimated to be 7.48 lakh since some sectors like plantation may witness a positive growth.
The study said, during 2009-10, India's total exports are likely to dip by 2.2 per cent.
"Petroleum products will experience the maximum decline in export growth followed by gems and jewellery, ores and minerals and textiles and its products," it said.
However, the situation will improve in the next fiscal, when new jobs would be created in the sector, which employs about 50 million people.
"In 2010-11, about 5.22 million jobs could be created. "No job losses are expected as all sectors are expected to experience positive export growth," it said.
In 2008-09, about 1.16 million people lost their jobs due to negative export growth in sectors such as textiles.
With external shipments contracting for the sixth month in a row, the country's exports aggregated USD 168.70 billion in 2008-09, managing a paltry growth rate of 3.4 per cent.
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/1.3-mn-may-lose-jobs-in-200910-unctad/475500/
This quote (marked in Bold) had me stumped
Asked what if the Centre decides to conduct the probe to mines in the neighbouring Andhra Pradesh also, he said, My brother Janardhana Reddy is very close to Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister (Y S Rajasekhara Reddy). Nothing will happen to us.
By the way, the person speaking is a Minister in the Karnataka Government and is a BJP MLA. Seems that Politics does cross many barriers.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/7841/centres-probe-not-hit-reddys.html
Asked what if the Centre decides to conduct the probe to mines in the neighbouring Andhra Pradesh also, he said, My brother Janardhana Reddy is very close to Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister (Y S Rajasekhara Reddy). Nothing will happen to us.
By the way, the person speaking is a Minister in the Karnataka Government and is a BJP MLA. Seems that Politics does cross many barriers.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/7841/centres-probe-not-hit-reddys.html