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Whats your loss if market closes at 9900 ?
In this strategy, the threatened legs are replaced with new strangles with bigger credit when the Nifty spot reaches 1% (100 points) near any leg, as shown in the following example:

Today Nifty spot is 10700. Sell a strangle of 10400-11000. Now wait for Nifty to move to 10500 or 10900, till that time do nothing with it.
Once it reaches 10900, close 11000CE (mostly it will be in loss) and sell a new strangle of 10600-11200. The profit making leg of 10400PE can be kept open if profit still not reached 60-80% of its sale value. Similar thing is done if Nifty moves down to 10500 on put side.

As long as Nifty does not become wild, this works beautifully and it is possible to cover a long distance of Nifty without any problem. I have experienced 1000 points directional move over 1 month in this strategy. So if nifty closes at 9900 in normal course without very high speed, there is no problem at all. There will be no loss at all, but most likely there will be good profit.

In case of huge gap down of 1000 points or more or locking on circuit, the max loss will be 500 minus credit taken on sold legs. Typically sold legs can fetch a premium of nearly 150 points, so net loss for that particular rare tail attack event will be 500-150 = 350 points.

After enough real life experience, delta adjustment in gradually falling market by selling few extra calls also enhances profitability. But this is not a part of standard rules of this strategy.

Hope this clarifies.
 
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ayush2020

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Your trading return is, return on the total capital deployed for trading. In this case its 10 lakhs.

Lets say, you have earned 1 lakh through trading in a year, but you have only used 5 lakhs. Remaining 5 lakhs is sitting idle in your trading account.

Here return should be calculated on total trading capital. ie 10 lakhs. Hence your ROI is 10%.

If you are calculating annual return from all sources, then you should calculate in the following way.

ROI on trading capital = 10%
ROI on bank FD = 7%

Your total annual return is 170K on a capital of 20L, hence your total ROI = 8.5%
What may be the income tax if we do trade in F&O??
 

amrutham

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I use mostly limit orders while entering and market orders while exiting.

For long butterfly strategy, long positions are entered first and short positions are exited first.

I use 'Square Off' option in 'admin positions' of NEST to exit positions quickly.
 
Entered into below position for BN tomorrows expiry.

Buy BN 25500 PE 280 Qty@ 49
Sell BN 25400 PE 560 Qty @ 26
Buy BN 25300 PE 280 Qty @ 14

Net Debit = 49+14-52 = 11*2.8 = around 3K

Max Loss = 3K
Your previous butterfly was on CE side, this one is on PE side. Kindly explain the logic of when to use put butterfly and when call butterfly. Thanks
 
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superman

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Entered into below position for BN tomorrows expiry.

Buy BN 25500 PE 280 Qty@ 49
Sell BN 25400 PE 560 Qty @ 26
Buy BN 25300 PE 280 Qty @ 14

Net Debit = 49+14-52 = 11*2.8 = around 3K

Max Loss = 3K
Isnt the range very narrow for expiry tommorow ?
 
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VJAY

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