Hello,
*Hello jahan..
Your opinion in # my opinion in * mark..
*What i said in few lines you said the more or less same thing elaborately..just our perspective of looking at it is different..let me explain without being disrespectful...
#From ur above post i can clearly tell that,...u didn't understand markets very well.
*True..still trying to understand..and it will continue always..
#ur talking about certainty in uncertain markets....in my view consistency means following the method/strategy each and every time without altering the rules,irrespective of my trading results....
*I said the same thing..
#who said u that u have to use same lot size
*e.g.you have capital you trade with 1 lot which can stand maximum 10 losses at a stretch, if you increase your lot size 2 or above (stop loss remain constant) in both scenario will you be able to survive in the market?thus same lot..else within 5 or less at a stretch losses your account will
Blow away...
*if you increase your lot size then it should be within your draw down taking capability limit..and should trade the same lot size consistently..
#or u need to get same risk reward ratio(which is Impossible) to be able to get consistent results....
*For me risk reward and winning percentage is inversely related to each other...if your strategy winning percentage decreases still you can make money if your risk reward increases or vice versa..
#infact i told so many times that Risk-reward concept(people say u need probability of 1:3 or more before entering trade,and use T1,T2, T3 as targets) doesn't work...why..bcoz u didn't know the outcome of ur trade in advance.the only control u have at ur end is ur Risk on the trade....
beyond that u have to accept/take what markets gives u.
*E.g.Market gives you 7 win out of 10.each win 5-7 point on an average(market may give more) and one stop loss is 20 points..7*7=49 point win..3*20=60 point loss..brokerage also there..you are in loss even with 70% win rate with what market gives rule.. that is why risk reward and winning percentage are considered together..if we dont achieve our reward target then stop loss will get hit..but when we achieve our reward it will cover all the losses..so we have to find a strategy that considers both risk reward and winning percentage...
#what i care is Average Profit factor over "n" no.of trades
*is not risk reward and winning % is considered after analysing this while selecting strategy?
#when comes to winning percenatge....for me... the lower the better... i can trade 20% winning system why..i know that when i get profits it overcome all my previous losses....
*Again it comes to using risk reward and winning % together..recovering small losses with high reward when you win..
#what i care about is Maxxdrawdown
*Already told about it above..
#and again its a psychological thing.
*Its considered while selecting strategy..
#When comes to Brokerage...yes u have to consider ur brokerage fees in ur Trading strategy without that how can u estimate/trade ur system. i didn't find any firm(broker) who charges Nothing for trading...so that i can waiver that from my system(impossible).
*These days there is unlimited trade, broker are also there..so those who have high trade for them it will be beneficial compared to those who charge per trade basis..and if you have selected your strategy based on unlimited brokerage plan but you trade as per per trade plan then imagine the consequence..
#Regards,
*Hello jahan..
Your opinion in # my opinion in * mark..
*What i said in few lines you said the more or less same thing elaborately..just our perspective of looking at it is different..let me explain without being disrespectful...
#From ur above post i can clearly tell that,...u didn't understand markets very well.
*True..still trying to understand..and it will continue always..
#ur talking about certainty in uncertain markets....in my view consistency means following the method/strategy each and every time without altering the rules,irrespective of my trading results....
*I said the same thing..
#who said u that u have to use same lot size
*e.g.you have capital you trade with 1 lot which can stand maximum 10 losses at a stretch, if you increase your lot size 2 or above (stop loss remain constant) in both scenario will you be able to survive in the market?thus same lot..else within 5 or less at a stretch losses your account will
Blow away...
*if you increase your lot size then it should be within your draw down taking capability limit..and should trade the same lot size consistently..
#or u need to get same risk reward ratio(which is Impossible) to be able to get consistent results....
*For me risk reward and winning percentage is inversely related to each other...if your strategy winning percentage decreases still you can make money if your risk reward increases or vice versa..
#infact i told so many times that Risk-reward concept(people say u need probability of 1:3 or more before entering trade,and use T1,T2, T3 as targets) doesn't work...why..bcoz u didn't know the outcome of ur trade in advance.the only control u have at ur end is ur Risk on the trade....
beyond that u have to accept/take what markets gives u.
*E.g.Market gives you 7 win out of 10.each win 5-7 point on an average(market may give more) and one stop loss is 20 points..7*7=49 point win..3*20=60 point loss..brokerage also there..you are in loss even with 70% win rate with what market gives rule.. that is why risk reward and winning percentage are considered together..if we dont achieve our reward target then stop loss will get hit..but when we achieve our reward it will cover all the losses..so we have to find a strategy that considers both risk reward and winning percentage...
#what i care is Average Profit factor over "n" no.of trades
*is not risk reward and winning % is considered after analysing this while selecting strategy?
#when comes to winning percenatge....for me... the lower the better... i can trade 20% winning system why..i know that when i get profits it overcome all my previous losses....
*Again it comes to using risk reward and winning % together..recovering small losses with high reward when you win..
#what i care about is Maxxdrawdown
*Already told about it above..
#and again its a psychological thing.
*Its considered while selecting strategy..
#When comes to Brokerage...yes u have to consider ur brokerage fees in ur Trading strategy without that how can u estimate/trade ur system. i didn't find any firm(broker) who charges Nothing for trading...so that i can waiver that from my system(impossible).
*These days there is unlimited trade, broker are also there..so those who have high trade for them it will be beneficial compared to those who charge per trade basis..and if you have selected your strategy based on unlimited brokerage plan but you trade as per per trade plan then imagine the consequence..
#Regards,
I have no idea what you're babbling about ..... does it look like I require any advice from you. Winning percentage, Broker? commision? max drawdown ? Your post is not only irrelevent but also incoherent.
Tere ko samaj mein nahin aa raha hai kya?
Broker, commision, max drawdown, winning percentage and what ever else you babbled about will make no difference if you don't have a statistical advantage in the markets aka an edge, no amount of all the above or money management or psycholgy in the world can ever give you an edge.
Yare why don't you read the last para of my post again, its especially meant for people such as you.
This is my last reply to you, earlier I used to spend lot of time trying to explain to people such as you but then after reading the following words from Gerorge Carlin I realized its futile to do so.
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - Gerorge Carlin
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