First Do Not Touch Motilal Oswal, Even If They Are The Last Broker On This Planet.
Now Coming To Other Things What A Prospective Sub-Broker Should Look For Before Deciding Who To Tie Knot With.
1) Must Not Agree To Pay Deposit, Instead Any Deposit Should Be Given As Shares or Bonds, Also Negotiate The Deposit.
2) Now Coming To Brokerage Sharing, Instead Of Brokerage Sharing, Negotiate For Minimum Required By The Broker So That Anything Charged Over & Above Is Yours. Putting It Point Wise As To What You Should Settle For Broker To Keep.
a) Cash Deliivery 0.10% Minimum 2 Paise
b) Cash Square Up Same Day 0.001% One Side Minimum 2 Paise
c) F&O Delivery 0.01% Both Legs Minimum 2 Paise
d) F&O Square Up Same Day 0.01% One Side Only Minimum 2 Paise
3) Now What You Could Charge Your Clients
a) Cash Delivery 0.30 - 0.50%
b) Cash Square Up Same Day 0.04 - 0.08%
c) F&O Delivery 0.03 - 0.08% Both Legs
d) F&O Square Up Same Day 0.03 - 0.08% One Side Only
e) Minimum 4 - 6 Paise For All The Above
4) Commodities You Will Need To Check With Somebody Else To Know The Rates Or Do Some Research On Your Own.
5) SEBI Registration Is 20000/- For Both BSE & NSE (10 & 10) Registration Valid For 5 Years From The Date On The Certificate Of Registration
6) Eligibilty Is Minimum HSC (Am Not Sure) You Will Need To Check On This, Alternatively 3 or 5 Years Experience With A Broker Incase You Don't Meet The Educational Eligibility (You Will Need A Certificate From The Broker For Your Service For Submission)
7) Do Not Agree To Pay Anything To The Broker Besides The Negotiated Deposit (Either Money or Shares Whatever The Case Maybe)
8) Other Charges Asked By The Broker Are As Follows:
a) Back Office Software One Time Charge
b) CTCL IDs Depending On The Number Of Segments You Want
c) Do Not Agree To Pay The Annual Charges For CTCL IDs
9) If Printed Stationery Is Being Provided By The Broker For You To Print The Contracts & Monthly DP Statement & Etc. To e Given To Your Clients, Do Not Agree To Pay For The Stationery
10) Reasons For All The Above Points Can Be Cited As Your Investment In Infrastructure (Premises, Staff, Phones, Internet Computers & Dealer Terminals, Printer, Consumables, A/C, & Other Incidenals Such As Snacks, Tea, Coffee & Whatever As Your Part Of The Investment To Get The Business Started, Therefore Any Thing Else Required Such As CTCL IDs (Reasonably Upto 2), Back Office Software, Stationery Should Be Brokers Investment For Their Earnings From Your Brokerage Operation, Quite Reasonable In My Opinion, Now Is As Good A Time As Any To Drive A Hard Bargain. Since The Business Is Down Almost 70-80% For Most of Them (Now You Know Why MOSL Is Putting Ads For 'Business Associates')
11) Caring For Your Business & Its Growth Will Entirely Depend On Your Handling Of Clients.
12) Do Not Recommend Scrips Just For The Sake Of Earning Brokerage, If You Think The Market Is Not Right For Investment Tell Your Clients To Stay Away & That You Will Let Them Know When Is The Right Time To Start With Investments.
13) Brokerage Research & Their Team Recommending Scrips To BUY, You Will Need To Put Them Through Your Own Stress Test, To Gauge The Quality Of Their Research, Do Not Blindly Recommend Whatever Recommendations Are Given To You By Your Broker, Unless You Have Developed A Certain Amount Of Faith In Their Research.
14) Drive The Bargain Harder By Free Trading & Demat Accounts For Your Clients, You Will Be Surprised How Easily They Will Agree To That With A Wee Bit Of Resistance..
15) It Is Upto You If You Want To Charge The Clients For Account Opening & Keep The Charges For Yourself. ( I Have No View On That)
16) Do Not Get Into Any Kind Of Hard Cash Dealing, Everything Is Always Without Exception By Cheque.
17) Clients Who Look Upto You For Investment Ideas, Worry About Their Capital First, Before Your Own (This Will Keep You In Good Stead In The Long Term)
18) Ideal Mix For The Business Should Be 70-30 (F&O - Cash Respectively)
Now, Do You Still Want To Be A Sub-Broker.....
SavantGarde
Hi SavantGarde,
I am planning to become subbroker.
I went through your post.It is very useful.Thanks for your post.
1) I talked with Angel broking.They asked Rs 1 lakh deposit.I have Fixed Deposit for Rs 1 lakh in KVB bank.
can I provide copy of FD receipt instead of giving Rs 1 lakh as hardcash to them ?.
2) Angel person informed me that they will give sharing ratio as 60:40 and minimum brokerage to be allowed for a client
is as follows
a) Cash Deliivery 10 paisa for Rs 100. Both Legs Minimum 20 Paise
b) Cash Square Up Same Day 1 paisa for Rs 100.Both Legs Minimum 2 Paise
c) F&O Delivery 0.01%. Both Legs Minimum 2 Paise
d) F&O Square Up Same Day 0.01%. Both Legs Minimum 2 Paise
If I assign above charge to my client (who will be heavy volume trader),will I get gain as below since sharing ratio is 60:40
a) Cash Deliivery 12 Paise for Rs 100 for both legs
b) Cash Square Up 1.2 Paise for Rs 100 for both legs
c) F&O Delivery 1.2 Paise for Rs 100 for both legs
d) F&O Square 1.2 Paise for Rs 100 for both legs
Do I understand wrongly or correctly ?.Is sharing ratio not applicable,If I assign minimum brokerage(i.e 1 paisa for Rs 100 for intraday for one leg ,
10 paisa for Rs 100 for delivery for one leg) to my client ?.Please clarify me.
3) My clients will trade only in NSE.So can I do registration only with NSE ?.So I can save Rs 10k without registering in BSE.
Is registration with BSE compulsary to become subbroker ?.
4)If I want NCDEX,should I pay any excess amount for NCDEX registration after NSE registration ?.
5)After I will take subbrokership,Can my relatives join as clients with me ?.I think family memebers should not become client with me.Is it so ?.
Request you to provide your clarifications for the above 5 points.
still I dont talk with him about CTCL IDs.After talking with him,will ask your advice,if I will get doubt.
Thanks in advance.
