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Hi friends:)

FOr all of us it is a good news.

SEBI is planning to introduce FOREX in fno segments

PL find their offiical pdf about the same which BY CLICKING THE FOLLOWING

http://www.sebi.gov.in/Index.jsp?con...&sub_sec_id=25

Note on New Products in F&O Segment
Contents
1. Mini Contracts in Equity Indices
2. Options Contracts with Longer Life/Tenure
3. Volatility Index and F&O Contracts
4. Options on Futures
5. Bond Index and F&O Contracts
6. Exchange-traded Currency (Foreign Exchange) F&O
Contracts
7. Exchange-traded products to cater to different
investment strategies
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1. Mini Contracts in Equity Indices
Trading in Index futures enables participation in broader market moves
with one trading decision, in an efficient and cost-effective way, without having
to select individual stocks. It also helps individual investors to hedge an
underlying portfolio. Index futures and options contracts closely follow the
price movement of their respective underlying indexes. These products are
widely used by financial professionals as well as individual investors for
portfolio protection as well as to gain from market movements.
Mini contract will be a fraction of normal derivative contract. Smaller
contract size means greater affordability for individual investors. Smaller
contract size, apart from helping the individual investor to hedge risks of a
smaller portfolio, offers lower levels of risk in terms of smaller level of possible
downside compared to a big size contract.
Popularity of mini contracts has been increasing due to the higher
liquidity and the ability to get in and out of a trade quickly with low impact cost.
Chicago Mercantile Exchange, one of the leading derivatives
exchanges in the world, provides wide range of E-mini future contracts on
broad based and liquid indices such as the Nasdaq 100, S&P 500, S&P
MidCap 400 and Russell 2000. For example, the E-mini S&P 500 futures
contract, which is one of the broad-based and most liquid contracts, is onefifth
the size of the standard S&P 500 futures contract.
Global Experience has been encouraging in the mini contracts. It is
noted that overall market liquidity and participation generally increases with
introduction of mini contracts. It is proposed to introduce initially mini contracts
in both Index futures and Index Options with Sensex/Nifty as the underlying.
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2. Options Contracts with Longer Life/Tenure
Currently, in India, exchange-traded equity options have a maximum
life of three months. Many of the investors who have a long term view on the
market do not find a direct options product with which this could be achieved.
Structurally, long-term options are no different from short-term options,
but the later expiration dates offer the opportunity for long-term investors to
take a view on prolonged price changes without needing to use a combination
of shorter-term option contracts. The premiums for long-term options tend be
higher than that of short-term options because the increased expiration period
means increased possibility of larger movement in the price of the underlying.
Long-term options are proposed to be made available with expiration
dates up to five years. These long-term options could be purchased not only
for individual stocks, but also for equity indexes.
Longer term options offer a good alternative to a longer-term trader to
gain exposure to a prolonged period in a given security without having to roll
several short-term contracts.
Investors also use long-term calls to diversify their portfolios. Long-term
puts provide investors with a means to hedge current stock holdings.
Many of the features of long-term options are the same for short-term
options. However, they differ from short-term options in several ways
including availability, pricing, time erosion vs. delta effect, and strategies.
During the interactions with various market participants it was brought
out that existing options contracts traded on Indian stock exchanges have a
maximum life/tenure of 3 months and, there is a need to have options
contracts with longer life/tenure. It is expected that these longer term options
contracts will provide liquidity across the tenures in the market.
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3. Volatility Index and F&O Contracts
World over, rapid changes in volatility are witnessed in securities
markets from time to time. It is increasingly felt that an openly available and
quoted measure of market volatility in the form of an index will help market
participants. There are few exchanges that compute and disseminate volatility
index.
Volatility Index is a measure of market expectations of near term
volatility conveyed by the prices of stock index options or a basket of options
on stocks. The Volatility Index is considered to be some kind of indicator of
investor sentiment, with high values implying pessimism and low values
implying optimism. A negative correlation in often noticed between Volatility
Index and market movement.
Volatility Index provides a series of snapshots of expected stock
market volatility over a specified time period. The Volatility Index is calculated
in real-time is continuously disseminated throughout each trading day.
Investors also use the implied volatility information given by the index,
in identifying mis-priced options.
In 1993, the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE) introduced the
CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) and it quickly became the benchmark for stock
market volatility. CBOE has a family of derivative products based on this index
as well.
It is proposed to create and suitably disseminated volatility index.
Futures and options on volatility index will be considered for introduction with
progress of time and experience gained with regard to this index.
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4. Options on Futures
Options on futures are derivative products where on exercise the
options position is converted into a futures position instead of delivery of the
underlying. A put is the option to sell a futures contract, and a call is the option
to buy a futures contract. For both, the option strike price is the specified
futures price at which the futures contract is acquired if the option is
exercised.
Options on futures are generally of American style. In other markets
Options on futures are available on various underlying such as energy,
interest rate, commodities, currency, etc. Options on futures contracts offer a
wide and diverse range of investment opportunities. This will also provide one
additional tool for risk management for the investors.
Options on futures are the derivative instrument that will be added to
the existing set of products. Introduction of options of futures on underlying
such as interest rates which are currently not active in the derivative segment
is expected to provide liquidity in the interest rate futures segment also.
Mostly options on futures are available for trading in US Exchanges.
For example, Eurex has options on futures on money market instruments.
Options on futures have been observed to have significant volumes on
underlying as energy and interest rate. Options on futures with interest rate as
underlying contributed 12% of the total options on futures volume for 2006 in
US. Some of the prominent options on interest rate futures in US are: Euro
dollar, 10 Year Treasury Note, 30 Year Treasury Bond, 5 Year Treasury Note.
Although futures contracts have been traded on U.S. exchanges since
1865, options on futures contracts were not introduced until 1982. Initially
offered as part of a government pilot program, their success eventually led to
widespread use of options on agricultural as well as financial futures
contracts. The options on futures are traded in CBOT, CME, NYMEX,
EUREX, EURONEXT
Options on Fixed Income Futures are traded in Eurex. The exercise of
an option on Fixed Income Futures results in the creation of a corresponding
position in the Fixed Income Futures for the option buyer as well as the seller
to whom the exercise is assigned. The position is established after the Post-
Trading Full Period of the exercise day, and is based on the agreed exercise
price.
It is increasingly felt in the Indian market that there is a need to
broaden the range of risk management products. Therefore, it is proposed to
introduce Options on Futures on the existing interest rate products traded on
exchanges.
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5. Bond Index and F&O Contracts
A bond index is used to measure the performance of bond markets.
The index can be used as a benchmark against which investment managers
measure their performance.
World wide, the two popular indexes for bonds are:
Sovereign bond index
Corporate bond index
A sovereign bond index is an index that tracks the performance of the
bond issued by a national government.Corporate bonds Index reflects the
market performance, on a total-return basis, of investment-grade bonds
issued by companies in the Corporate Bond market. Some of the popular
corporate bond indexes are issued by Dow Jones, Lehman, Morgan Stanley,
Etc.
An index is regarded as a general indicator for market performance.
Most financial and real asset markets usually monitor the performance of the
market using indexes designed to monitor the general health. They also form
a crucial input to the design of security portfolio of investors. Economists and
statisticians use these indexes to study trends of growth pattern in economies.
Further, futures and options of wide variety can be launched on the
bond indexes. These products are quite popular in many of the prominent
exchanges abroad. Presently, Bond indexes and derivatives on them are
traded in the following international exchanges:
Eurex
Chicago Mercantile Exchange
Euronext
Hong Kong exchange
Tokyo stock exchange
Chicago Board of trade
Singapore exchange
At present, there is little activity in corporate bond market segment and
in interest rate derivatives. It is proposed that bond indexes (both corporate
and GoI) to be created and F&O on the same could be introduced on the lines
of what has been permitted in equity. Further, possibility of introduction of
exchange traded single bond futures and exchange traded credit derivatives
could also be explored.
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6. Exchange-traded Currency (Foreign Exchange) F&O
Contracts
The foreign exchange or Forex market is the largest market in the
world, with trades amounting to more than USD 3.5 trillion every day (mainly
OTC). The high risk due to exchange rate fluctuations is dealt with effectively
by undertaking hedging transactions using derivatives on a currency.
A currency future is a contract in which the parties agree to exchange
cash flows in two different currencies at an agreed upon date in the future. A
currency option is a contract that gives the buyer the right, but not the
obligation, to exchange one currency for another at a predetermined
exchange rate on or until the maturity date.
These contracts when traded on the exchange floors becomes
exchange traded currency F&O contracts.
It is expected that trading of F&O products on organized exchanges,
will help in concentrating order flow and provide a transparent venue for price
discovery. The role of clearing corporation/house means minimal margin
requirements and the low transactions costs, further mitigation of credit risks
by daily marking to market of all futures positions, general lowering of
transaction costs for participants are relatively low. A smaller contract size will
also help Small and Medium Enterprises in hedging their exposure directly on
an exchange.
There are many prominent exchanges that are involved in exchange
traded currency derivatives products. On CBOT and CME Banks often use
exchange traded currency futures contracts to hedge the positions acquired in
OTC forward market. NYSE Euro next is also an prominent exchange that
deals with the cross currency futures and options.
There is a growing need to help small and medium enterprises in
hedging their foreign currency exposure through exchange traded small
denomination currency (foreign exchange) F&O contracts. This will also help
banks to improve their risk management in relation to positions taken in the
over-the-counter (OTC) forward Forex market.
With the possibility of capital account convertibility at some time in
future, it is felt that an enabling framework in this segment could also be put in
place. Further, supervision of Forex F&O trading activities, prescription of risk
containment and market integrity measures could be managed by appropriate
authority. It is also felt that these contracts could possibly be traded on
existing exchanges.

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7. Exchange-traded Products Involving Different Strategies
An individual investor may want to create a strategy using options on a
broad based index. However, it may not be very convenient for an individual
investor. This may be due to the fact that the cost of buying all components of
the stock and margin requirement on individual options may turn out to be
fairly large. Further, buying of all stocks in the index may have a tracking error
and would require re-shuffling of portfolio for changes in the Index. In addition
to this, selling of near the money option on expiry of existing option in the
portfolio may also be time consuming and costly for the investor. The
following two illustrations are for ready reference.
(A) Buy-write Index
For example, an individual investor wants to write covered call options
on a broad based index but does not have all the resources required to track
the performance of this strategy. In this situation, a buy-write index works like
a benchmark for the performance of hypothetical covered call i.e. buying of
the underlying index portfolio and selling of the call option on the same
portfolio in same notional amounts.
It is proposed that a buy-write index tracking a hypothetical portfolio of
long stocks and short call options on a broad based index may be created.
Initially the Index values to be disseminated to the market, and as a further
step, derivative contracts to be introduced on this index.
(B) Put-Write Index
Now, say, another individual investor wants to create a strategy
through buying short-term treasury bills and selling put options on a broad
based index. But this individual investor may not be able to do this, due to the
fact the money-market in India is mostly Institutional in nature and an
individual investor may not be able to have a small portfolio of investment in
the treasury bills. Further, selling of near the money option on expiry of
existing option in the portfolio may also be time consuming and costly for the
investor. In effect, it may not be feasible for the investor to track this portfolio
in a cost-effective and efficient manner.
It is proposed that an index tracking a hypothetical portfolio of
investment in short term T-Bills and short put options on a broad based index
to be created. Initially the Index values to be disseminated to the market, and
as a further step, derivative contracts to be introduced on the index.
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After the remittance is once successfull , then RBI or Indian Law cannot interfere in the matter, as what ways and where is the money remitted from India was used. Once it's gone then whether you throw it anywhere or use at any place will only be applicable to the law of that particular jurisdiction and then niether Indian Constitution nor RBI is allowed to take any action in matters of foreign jurisdictions.
They can interefere as the Indian Resident is covered by FEMA regulations. RBI may not recover the money back from other countries but the Resident Indian will have to face the music here in India. About usage of LRS, payment of margin is clearly banned.

Regards,
--Ashish

P.S.:- Even if margin payment from initial remittance is banned, there are ways out. :D
 
#23
You are totally ignorant about the legal system my dear friend.

They are all fools of Axis Bank who lacks the knowledge. Go through several officers in a bank and all will give you different varying decisions. Then go to other bank and there also talk to several officers. I also did similar as you did and marked that 100% confidence was not found in anyone's answers. I have my own account in Axis Bank and challenged them in open to come out and debate on this matter. They were so much worried when I sent the complaint to their bank's corporate department and then they personally with Head of Bank too came to my house and begged in front of me to take back the complaint. I just don't talk like you, I believe in pratical results and evidence. So, I hereby confirm that forex trading is allowed if you have account in any country other then India. Because the jurisdiction of India cannot interfere niether the RBI can interfere with the matter which does not falls in their jurisdiction. As far as it concerns to having an online account with a broker in any country other then India, I am 100% percent sure that no one can stop any individual. RBI or you are not GOD who whatever says is final. Understood? So stop arguing and accept it. That's all !

This was about forex trading. Now let's talk of remittance which is different subject then forex trading subject. Remittance as per the Liberalized Remittance Scheme(LRS) is allowed. In LRS, there are several articles and sections under which you can remit money to foreign countries. Once you send money to foreign country then over there again the jurisdiction changes. After the remittance is once successfull , then RBI or Indian Law cannot interfere in the matter, as what ways and where is the money remitted from India was used. Once it's gone then whether you throw it anywhere or use at any place will only be applicable to the law of that particular jurisdiction and then niether Indian Constitution nor RBI is allowed to take any action in matters of foreign jurisdictions.

Here is an example of legal way of forex trading for Indian Citizens:

Open an online share trading or forex trading or currency trading account whose registered Regulatory office is based anywhere out side Indian Jurisdcition. Then open an International Personal Banking Account in the same country bank where you hold trading account and I would like to say that it is allowed as per the LRS scheme FAQ point number 36 mentioned on http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/FAQView.aspx?Id=53

Once you open a trading account AND also an international personal banking account in jurisdiction which falls outside India, then you can first of all send the money to you international personal banking account using the LRS scheme. And once it's remitted the powers of Indian jurisdiction is over. Then from that bank account simply transfer to your trading account which is also in the same country and does not falls in Indian Jurisdiction. This is the way and legal way to do forex trading using the LRS scheme and within legal limits.

Now tell me what would you like to say?

Sincerely



Kalpesh Sharma
World's Biggest Hacking Expert
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India.
+91-79-25351208
 
#24
See, this very post shows that forex is still NOT made legal by the Indian govt. I hope it will be done in the future.


Hi friends:)

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6. Exchange-traded Currency (Foreign Exchange) F&O
Contracts
The foreign exchange or Forex market is the largest market in the
world, with trades amounting to more than USD 3.5 trillion every day (mainly
OTC). The high risk due to exchange rate fluctuations is dealt with effectively
by undertaking hedging transactions using derivatives on a currency.
A currency future is a contract in which the parties agree to exchange
cash flows in two different currencies at an agreed upon date in the future. A
currency option is a contract that gives the buyer the right, but not the
obligation, to exchange one currency for another at a predetermined
exchange rate on or until the maturity date.
These contracts when traded on the exchange floors becomes
exchange traded currency F&O contracts.
It is expected that trading of F&O products on organized exchanges,
will help in concentrating order flow and provide a transparent venue for price
discovery. The role of clearing corporation/house means minimal margin
requirements and the low transactions costs, further mitigation of credit risks
by daily marking to market of all futures positions, general lowering of
transaction costs for participants are relatively low. A smaller contract size will
also help Small and Medium Enterprises in hedging their exposure directly on
an exchange.
There are many prominent exchanges that are involved in exchange
traded currency derivatives products. On CBOT and CME Banks often use
exchange traded currency futures contracts to hedge the positions acquired in
OTC forward market. NYSE Euro next is also an prominent exchange that
deals with the cross currency futures and options.
There is a growing need to help small and medium enterprises in
hedging their foreign currency exposure through exchange traded small
denomination currency (foreign exchange) F&O contracts. This will also help
banks to improve their risk management in relation to positions taken in the
over-the-counter (OTC) forward Forex market.
With the possibility of capital account convertibility at some time in
future, it is felt that an enabling framework in this segment could also be put in
place. Further, supervision of Forex F&O trading activities, prescription of risk
containment and market integrity measures could be managed by appropriate
authority. It is also felt that these contracts could possibly be traded on
existing exchanges.

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See, this very post shows that forex is still NOT made legal by the Indian govt. I hope it will be done in the future.
I wonder what made you draw such kind of wild inference!!

No doubt derivatives instruments on forex pair are not allowed to be traded on any indian exchange so far, they have always been traded in inter-bank market. A number of corporates have been using Forward Currency Contracts (Not different from Futures, in Essence) since long.

Now coming to spot-forex trading. What is forex trading? It's conversion of money from one currency to another and reverse-conversion on a later date thereby earning profit/loss as a result of change in exchange rate between these two dates. In India nobody stops anyone from doing it.
The only condition is that one can do such transaction only through a Primary Dealer (PD),i.e, Banks, Money Changers, etc.

The catch comes when one goes to the Internation Forex Brokers for Currency Trading. Only if such a broker has PD license in India, trading through them will be legal, else it will illegal.

Earlier, one could have used the LRS to do Currncy Trading through such brokers even if they did not have a PD license. However, the latest circular released by RBI specifically forbids one from using LRS for making Margin Payments. This, in effect, make put a spanner in the plans of somebody who was earlier thinking to use LRS for Currency Trading through International Brokers.

However, there are a few provisions of LRS itself which can be used to go around the provision for Margin Payment. For Example, one of the provisions of LRS allow the proceeds of any asset acquired abroad through LRS to be kept outside India and to be used in any manner deemed fit by the Resident Individual.

Now suppose, I acquire Real Estate in the US using LRS and after one year sell it. Now RBI allows to use this sale proceed in any manner whatsoever. So we can use it for making margin payments.
If one does not want to acquire Real Estate, one can purchase a few shares and sell them subsequently as well.

I hope this summaries the matter and puts the doubt to an end, atleast to the legality of Forex Trading in India.

Best Regards,
--Ashish
 
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They can interefere as the Indian Resident is covered by FEMA regulations. RBI may not recover the money back from other countries but the Resident Indian will have to face the music here in India. About usage of LRS, payment of margin is clearly banned.

Regards,
--Ashish

P.S.:- Even if margin payment from initial remittance is banned, there are ways out. :D
OK ! I challenge you as well all the those who can take legal actions against me. I have traded more then 300000 Rupees in forex and I have account of currency trading in US at two companies which are registered with CFTC and NFA.

I am confident on my reply and it also seems you are too confident. Then go and take actions against me. I hereby cetify in open and you can show this as evidence that what I have written above and I will reply and face legal matters and defend myself in the court of law.

Come on ? Would you like to take this challenge?

Khullam Khulla bolta hoon ! Mein Mr. Kalpesh Sharma Forex Trading(Currency Trading) mein money invest karta hoon. Aur jis kisi ko pure hindustaan mein yeh lagta hain ki mein illegal work kar raha hoon, then kindly please file a case against me and take legal actions. I will defend myself right in front of millions of public. Come out who dares? This is all what I can say for your answers to prove myself. Because this discussion will never end if you say that your are true and alternatively if I say that I am right. It can only be finalized after a legal war.

Sincerely


Kalpesh Sharma
 
#28
You are totally ignorant about the legal system my dear friend.
They can interefere as the Indian Resident is covered by FEMA regulations. RBI may not recover the money back from other countries but the Resident Indian will have to face the music here in India. About usage of LRS, payment of margin is clearly banned.

Regards,
--Ashish

P.S.:- Even if margin payment from initial remittance is banned, there are ways out. :D
OK ! I challenge you as well all the those who can take legal actions against me. I have traded more then 300000 Rupees in forex and I have account of currency trading in US at two companies which are registered with CFTC and NFA.

I am confident on my reply and it also seems you are too confident. Then go and take actions against me. I hereby cetify in open and you can show this as evidence that what I have written above and I will reply and face legal matters and defend myself in the court of law.

Come on ? Would you like to take this challenge?

Khullam Khulla bolta hoon ! Mein Mr. Kalpesh Sharma Forex Trading(Currency Trading) mein money invest karta hoon. Aur jis kisi ko pure hindustaan mein yeh lagta hain ki mein illegal work kar raha hoon, then kindly please file a case against me and take legal actions. I will defend myself right in front of millions of public. Come out who dares? This is all what I can say for your answers to prove myself. Because this discussion will never end if you say that your are true and alternatively if I say that I am right. It can only be finalized after a legal war.

Sincerely


Kalpesh Sharma
 
#29
  • I have been trading forex since June 2006
  • I have specifically mentioned in my income tax returns as being forex trading income and have been paying my taxes on the returns
  • So if forex trading was illegal, why has nobody asked me so far.
  • Of all people why has my bank ICICI not restrained me from sending and receiving bank wires specifically for forex trading.
 
#30
  • This post was started on 9th September 2007, 12:02 PM
  • But I have filed income tax returns for 2 years and nobody asked me any questions
  • I have been using bank wires for 2 years and still no questions
  • So why this post ??
 
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