The 12 Rules of How to Avoid Losing and Start Making Money from the Stock Market

[rkkarnani]

Re: Rule no 13

I bet reading this will lead a real trader no were and most important aspect of trading is profit either u gamble or trade but at end point i need results i.e profit with or without discipline and no book can teach how to become disciplined and dont belive that some one will share for free a real trading system or strategy and i advice dont wait for such free lunch and to make easy profits.

secondly i dont care how i make profit either from scalping or from positional entry but i care how much i make wrt to risk bet on that entry or before my drag down will hit .

If its so simple then there is no easy profession in world other than trading which takes just a click to generate profit and remember its not just a push button technology

Hello Sir, May be its not for the PRO traders, the real traders, but very much relevant for newbies like me.
As regards profit motive, thats the First point in the Post. That is what it is all about.
I agree no book no sermon can teach discipline, but being repeated told to be disciplined helps. it helped me, and the addition in the POST was mine as DISCIPLINE really really helped me in retaining profits and at times increasing them.
AND lastly What made you say "if its so simple", the rules posted are not simple at all to follow, and also "push button technology"... you probably had something else on your mind when you posted this.
And your Rule 13 as numbered by you about Not believing , rather "NEVER EVER" believe such kind of posts???? You have as per my intellect not clarified what exactly are you trying to say in your above post!!!!
Your further views are solicited.
Regards
-R K Karnani

 

[rkkarnani]

Re: Rule no 13

and dont belive that some one will share for free a real trading system or strategy and i advice dont wait for such free lunch and to make easy profits.

And where does this Point come into picture, the post does not suggest this at all. It rather tells you not o trade on tips. Where is the question of waiting and free lunches!!!!

 

[rkkarnani]

Re: Rule no 14

Try to learn right way of trading wrt to your trading psycology and risk tolerance than correct way of what most of past performance archives suggest i.e books

And no one i heared of have replicated a trading style and reproved similar success again, i mean one cant clone again same degree of success of what other have acheived on their own level of skill sets and style

The post is a copy paste affair only, taken from a book (article) by Dr. Steven Lee (Ph.D)

No trading style has been discussed, the post only tells about certain basics which a person according to Dr. Steven Lee (Ph.D) should follow to attain better results in stocks and I agreed to his views and posted the same here.
The points raised by him, are, according to me VERY GENUINE and many traders and investors make the mistakes listed therein.
I dont know what made you say ,"never ever belive reading this kinda post will save u from losses and will turn u r equity downside up"
Ofcourse reading alone wont help!!!!!
AND I am quiet sure you yourself must be following a number of rules therein, maybe they are paraphrased in a different style.
Regards.
-R K Karnani

 

[rkkarnani]

Re: Rule no 13

HI Mr R.K.Karnani,

i have nothin to share. I dont have much experience abt trading compared to amarnath, but the fact is that these rules are written in so many places. Serach the forum ul get similar articles in a different package. Almost every book u pick and read on psychology have the same things. dont u think if out of 100 even 50 follow these.Atleast 40 must be succesful traders. Its pretty interesting that only abt 5 win rest loose. and if ur a scucesful trader i must say "Welcome to the Elite Club of Winners".


So think abt it. Also want to point out these rules are of importance no doubt but not only them. U need somethin more.
And .......

Trade with real money to get a real feel.

Thanks

Swagat, If you agree these rules are important , the extra that you say, " need something more" would you also say that someone reading these rules without the 'something extra' will not gain anything, would you say that whatever is missing out here in the rules , the something MORE would alone help. ????? I dont know what you mean when you write " trade with real money to get the real feel", if its meant for me, let me clarify that i am NEW but not a kibitzer observing the Game, but an active investor and trader. I have had my cup of woes for not following a few basics and also had learned from my errors and have become more disciplined every passing day and still feel a lot more is required in the DISCIPLINE area.
Regards.
-R K Karnani

 

[Prabhjeet]

The 12 Rules of How to Avoid Losing and Start Making Money from the Stock Market

By Dr. Steven Lee (Ph.D)

RULE 1: WHY DO YOU INVEST?
Make more money, this is the answer to most people.
If your reason is to make more money, then ask yourself these three questions:

1.Is your strategy making money?
2.Is your strategy safe?
3.How to increase the profit and minimize the risk?

RULE 2: HOW TO CREATE WEALTH IN STOCK MARKET WITH JUST $1,000

Let say we invest some lower price stocks with just $1,000 in the stock market, invest twice a year for short-to-medium term. If each time the return is double, you will make one million dollar cash within 5 years. If your starting capital is $20,000, after 3 years you will make one million dollar cash.

If you are using the same $1,000 capital, invest twice a year, but the return is only 50%, you will make one million dollar cash after 9 years.

So we can always start small. However, it is very important that we know how to select high profit and low risk stocks.


RULE 3: DON'T GET OBSESSED WITH STOCKS
Sitting and monitoring the market whole day long will not bring you profit. Instead, it increases pressure and misleads your judgment.


RULE 4: NEVER GAMBLE
95% of the people always buy at the highest price. They dont really know when to buy, just relying on news, rumors and tips. Only 5% of the people knows how to trade at the lowest price. Thats why 95% are losing money, only the 5% are making money.
Investment Builds Wealth, Gambling Definitely Lose !


RULE 5: SAY GOODBYE TO NEWS
News used to be able to predict the market trend. But not anymore, it is difficult to judge which news could actually influence the market nowadays.


RULE 6: DO YOUR OWN ANALYSIS, FORGET ABOUT TIPS
Before investing, ask yourself these four questions:

1.How many people have already heard about the tips before you?
If many have heard about it before you, this news is already obsolete. The price is already high.

2.How long have the tips been spreading before it reaches you?
The next day?

3.Who told you?
Listed company director? Or friends?

4.Assuming that the tip is true, would you possibly know about it?
Normally insider news is not disclosed.


RULE 7: SELL YOUR STOCKS EVEN LOSING MONEY
It is easier to be said than done.

Sell at a loss is a difficult decision. Your heart will object, and your feeling will say "It is going to rebound, don't sell." Eventually price dropped further, causing a much tragic lost.


RULE 8: DON'T JUST FOCUS ON MAKING MONEY

How to protect your capital is much more important. Dont try to make 100% profit. It is already good enough to have a 60% profit margin.


RULE 9: HISTORY WILL NOT ALWAYS REPEAT
Everyone expects to make some money from the stock market before Christmas, New Year, annual budget announcement or election, but the stock market is not always bullish during these events. We can say history is not always repeated.
The best way is Let the Market Lead us.


RULE 10: QUOTES FROM WARREN BUFFET
There are only two rules to make money in stock market:

The first rule: Never lose your money.
The second rule: Never forget the first rule.


RULE 11: TURN BAD STOCKS INTO GOOD STOCKS, DON'T JUST HOLD YOUR STOCKS

Don't hold your stock too long, there is a value when stocks are sold.

How long have you been holding your stocks until now?
Since Year 1993? 1997? Or Year 2000?

Why didn't you exercise your stocks? Long term investment strategy is not practical anymore. Even the blue chips also crash when the market collapses.

The best strategy is to sell the stocks that are not earning money, and reselect some good counters. Buy low, sell high for several times will earn you more than enough to compensate the lost.


RULE 12: WAKE UP FROM MISTAKES

Stop investing if you are not sure of when to buy or sell.

Without the knowledge of investment, you are bound to lose again. This is an age of information. Investors are using knowledge, techniques and strategies to make money. Without investment knowledge, how do you protect your money?

Building wealth through investing starts with securing your capital.



Dr. Steven Lee (Ph.D)

An addition to the above rules :
BE DISCIPLINED!!!!!!

What do i say RK, your threads on WORDS OF WISDOM are nothing less thanA HOLY GRAIL FOR TRADERS AND INVESTORS

keep the good work going

CHEERS

 

[swagat86]

Re: Rule no 13

Swagat, If you agree these rules are important , the extra that you say, " need something more" would you also say that someone reading these rules without the 'something extra' will not gain anything, would you say that whatever is missing out here in the rules , the something MORE would alone help. ????? I dont know what you mean when you write " trade with real money to get the real feel", if its meant for me, let me clarify that i am NEW but not a kibitzer observing the Game, but an active investor and trader. I have had my cup of woes for not following a few basics and also had learned from my errors and have become more disciplined every passing day and still feel a lot more is required in the DISCIPLINE area.
Regards.
-R K Karnani

Hi buddy,

ur takin it on a offensive note. Its an open forum and eveybody has his/her rights to express. Its my personal view that alone the points mentioned above wont help. As its said that every one has his/her own way of makin money in mrkts. If u think its ok with u, my best wishes.


I take back my words abt sayin that u need to trade with real money. My mistake.


thanks

 

[rkkarnani]

Re: Rule no 13

Hi buddy,

ur takin it on a offensive note. Its an open forum and eveybody has his/her rights to express. Its my personal view that alone the points mentioned above wont help. As its said that every one has his/her own way of makin money in mrkts. If u think its ok with u, my best wishes.


I take back my words abt sayin that u need to trade with real money. My mistake.


thanks

An open forum, YES!!!! So i also have the right to express myself too, well if it's 'offence', I am sorry but thats what it is though it was not meant to be.
How can anybody deny about the 'way of making money' to be different with different people.
I never said that what I have written is THE BEST !!!!
But nevertheless it can make one BETTER... this I honewstly feel

Thanks for understanding.
Regards

 

[swagat86]

Re: Rule no 13

An open forum, YES!!!! So i also have the right to express myself too, well if it's 'offence', I am sorry but thats what it is though it was not meant to be.
How can anybody deny about the 'way of making money' to be different with different people.
I never said that what I have written is THE BEST !!!!
But nevertheless it can make one BETTER... this I honewstly feel

Thanks for understanding.
Regards

it is different becs there are diff types of traders, diff forms of investing.

Thanks

 

[CreditViolet]

Re: Rule no 13

An open forum, YES!!!! So i also have the right to express myself too, well if it's 'offence', I am sorry but thats what it is though it was not meant to be.
How can anybody deny about the 'way of making money' to be different with different people.
I never said that what I have written is THE BEST !!!!
But nevertheless it can make one BETTER... this I honewstly feel

Thanks for understanding.
Regards

Sir
I dont think they meant it in a offensive way, I think their point was that the articles like this are quite vague to use them in the real world, which I think you might agree.There are a lot more 'specifics' involved to be a success in the markets unlike what Dr.Stephen wants you to belive, its never that easy.

Regards

 

[rkkarnani]

Re: Rule no 13

Sir
I dont think they meant it in a offensive way, I think their point was that the articles like this are quite vague to use them in the real world, which I think you might agree.There are a lot more 'specifics' involved to be a success in the markets unlike what Dr.Stephen wants you to belive, its never that easy.

Regards

CV, If you honestly think that the comment :

"Rule no 13 never ever belive reading this kinda post will save u from losses and will turn u r equity downside up "

was not meant in an offencive way, well then I accept it as my over-reaction!!!

Moreover the post was never meant to be a 'trading system'.. as is obvious it was more on the mistakes the new traders like me make. Though I did not think that the writer was trying to make us believe that what he has writtten is the last word about trading in stocks. I do feel that the rules posted can definetly help one trade better.
Regards.
R K Karnani