how much return you expect from commodity market

[Rajeevji]

...IT IS NOT THE VOLETILITY FROM WHICH WE FEAR,BUT IT IS UNCERTAINTY OF TREND, THAT ON WHICH SIDE, THE TRADES WILL OPEN NEXT MORNING, FROM WHICH WE FEAR.
IN THAT CASE IF WE WILL STILL CARRY TRADE FOR NEXT DAY,IT MEANS WE ARE NOW NOT TRADING BUT GAMBLING(MAY WIN ARE MAY LOOSE BOTH 50/50 CHANCE)BUT WE ARE NOT GAMBLERS WE ARE JUST TRADERS
WE SHOULD CARRY A TRADE ,FOR NEXT DAY,IF OVER ALL PROBABILTY, IS IN OUR FAVOUR, NOT FIFTY FIFTY, IF FITY FIFTY ,CLOSE THE TRADES, DONT GAMBLE-THAT IS WHY I CLOSED ALL THE FIVE TRADES( i used the world voletilty for high voletility in above post)

Dear Ashwani,

Thanks & Regards

Rajeev

 

[ashwani chadha]

Dear Ashwani,

Thanks & Regards

Rajeev

dear rajeevji/cotton/vishu mahajan
my views on five mini lots are as given below after saturday closingne thing i wants to say that six hour time frame in commodity market works as miror of end of day trading,but this miror tells us in advance,that eod moves are expected to go which way in the near future.
so i am giving my views on six hour time frame
GOLD TREND LONG LOWER SUPPORT SIX HOUR 27378
SILVER TREND LONG LOWER SUPPORT SIX HOUR 63890
ALLUMINI TREND LONG LOWER SUPPORT SIX HOUR106/10
ZINK TREND LONG LOWER SUPPORT SIX HOUR 98/80
LEAD TREND SHORT UPPER RESISTANCE SIX HOUR 107/10
HOW TO TRADE WITH SIX HOUR TIME FRAME AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EOD TIME FRAME TRADING
IF MONDAY CLOSING COMES BELOW LOWER SUPPORT , ONE CAN CLOSE THESE OPEN TRADES AT 11.25 OTHER WISE HE CAN CARRY TO NEXT DAY

 

[ashwani chadha]

dear rajeev,we never fear from voletility,it is a main part of trading game
suppose voletility is there with trending market as it was in last few days,in lead/zink/silver/gold(we earn good amount by holding these moves from lower support AND NOT SQUARING UP FOR SEVERAL DAYS
now suppose voletility is there,coupled with range bound market,as in last few days, it was in aluminium:then we will buy at lower support and sell it at upper resistance ON DAY TO DAY BASIS:in this case profit will be more then first case of trending market,as here we will cash the full voletility both side.
still i closed all the trades,as far as lead /zink/alluminium is concerned,i have given all the detail in my previous posts and my all perdicitions proved right,as they all open gap down on saturday,i was very much sure that all will open gap down.reason of closing i have already given in my previous post.
NOW I WAS HOLDING LONG IN GOLD/SILVER BOTH;MOMENTUM OF BOTH WAS VERY STRONG
THE FIRST FACT IS OUT OF 3K INTRADAY PROFIT , I LAST 2K AND JUST CATCH ONE K AND REST VANISH WITH IN NO TIME IN GOLD
AND IN SILVER OUT OF 2500 POINTS I JUST CATCHED 1000 AND REST ALL VANISH WITH IN NO TIME---THIS EXTRA ORDINARY FALL WAS LESS A PART OF TECHNICALS AND MORE A PART OF MANIPULATION-IT HAPPENED BEFORE SIX WHEN INTERNATIONAL MARKET WAS NOT OPENED-STILL CREATED UNCERTAINTY BY MANIPULATERS AT NATIONAL LEVAL
AND NOW PERFECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION:IT IS NOT THE VOLETILITY FROM WHICH WE FEAR,BUT IT IS UNCERTAINTY OF TREND, THAT ON WHICH SIDE, THE TRADES WILL OPEN NEXT MORNING, FROM WHICH WE FEAR.
IN THAT CASE IF WE WILL STILL CARRY TRADE FOR NEXT DAY,IT MEANS WE ARE NOW NOT TRADING BUT GAMBLING(MAY WIN ARE MAY LOOSE BOTH 50/50 CHANCE)BUT WE ARE NOT GAMBLERS WE ARE JUST TRADERS
WE SHOULD CARRY A TRADE ,FOR NEXT DAY,IF OVER ALL PROBABILTY, IS IN OUR FAVOUR, NOT FIFTY FIFTY, IF FITY FIFTY ,CLOSE THE TRADES, DONT GAMBLE-THAT IS WHY I CLOSED ALL THE FIVE TRADES( i used the world voletilty for high voletility in above post)

ONE-HOW TO FIGHT WITH UNCERTAINTY:TWO-SOLUTION IS- BE A PART OF MANIPULATERS
THREE-HOW TO BE A PART OF MANIPULATORS
FOUR-BASICALLY WHEN A COMMODITY IS IN FULL MOMENTUM AND AS A RESULT TRADERS OR IN VERY HUGE PROFITS, AS IN THE CASE OF GOLD AND SILVER AT PRESENT AND THEIR IS A RISK OF LOOSING EARNED PROFIT, IN OPEN MOVES WHICH THEY CARRY EVERY DAY
FIVE:NOW THEY ,JUST NEED A SMALL REASON ,TO BOOK THEIR PROFITS
SIX:AND A SMALL REASON LIKE ONE HOUR TIME FRAME IN OVER BAUGHT POSITION IS SUFFICIENT TO BOOK PROFIT BY THEM,THIS WAS THE REASON, OF AT ONCE FALL IN GOLD AND SILVER ON FRIDAY
SEVEN:THEY CLOSE THEIR TRADES AND BOOKED PROFIT
EIGHT :GAME ONE FINISH HERE
NINE:LIMIT OF THIS FALL WILL BE UP TO FAIR MARKET VALUE OF THAT COMMODITY
TEN:FROM FAIR MARKET VALUE AGAIN GAME TWO WILL START
FAIR MARKET VALUE OF GOLD ON FRIDAY, AT THE TIME OF RE ENTRY WAS 27330 AND RE ENTRY STARTED FROM 27330 IN GOLD AND SATURDAY CLOSING IN GOLD WAS 27933:SMART MONEY IN GOOD PROFIT IN GAME TWO OF GOLD AGAIN(i have just given detail of their last two games but at present they are in sixth or seventh game in gold
FAIR MARKET VALUE OF SILVER ON FRIDAY, AT THE TIME OF RE ENTRY WAS 62400 AND RE ENTRY STARTED AT 62700 LEVAL

 

[ashwani chadha]

SHORT WAS TAKEN IN NIFTY AT 5143 LEVAL
YESTERDAY CLOSING WAS 4929
5143-4929=214x50=10700
position trader profit in one lot of nifty till yesterday 10700/-short is still open!!!!

saturday closing nifty 4853
profit one lot nifty
5143-4853=290 pointx50=14500!!!!!
short still open
stop loss for to day at three hour time frame is 4967(IT MEANS IF END OF DAY CLOSING IS EXPECTED ABOVE 4967,THEN WE WILL CLOSE AT 3.25 PM OTHER WISE WE WILL CARRY IT FOR TUESDAY

 

[cotton]

Ashwani Zinc i am still carrying...Putting SL at 98.60..

 

[cotton]

Ashwani Zinc i am still carrying...Putting SL at 98.60..

SL Triggered...

 

[vishumahajan]

Ashwani sir, according to you which method is more effective in calculating support/resistance/pivot - i mean graphical (free line,retracement,trendlines,etc) or mathematical(classic,fibonnaci,etc) ? since each method will have its own values of support/resistance.

 

[cotton]

Ashwani sir, according to you which method is more effective in calculating support/resistance/pivot - i mean graphical (free line,retracement,trendlines,etc) or mathematical(classic,fibonnaci,etc) ? since each method will have its own values of support/resistance.

Vishnu Ashwani always use mathematical support and resistance..

 

[vishumahajan]

Vishnu Ashwani always use mathematical support and resistance..

Thanks cotton sir

 

[ashwani chadha]

Ashwani sir, according to you which method is more effective in calculating support/resistance/pivot - i mean graphical (free line,retracement,trendlines,etc) or mathematical(classic,fibonnaci,etc) ? since each method will have its own values of support/resistance.

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