True and false Breakouts

winstonn

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#1
hi,

all of us know breakouts when true , can be explosive and highly profitable!
but does any one know the high probable method to identify the true and false breakouts apart from just volume analysis. ???????:rolleyes:

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cheers
winston
 
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CreditViolet

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#2
hi,

all of us know breakouts when true , can be explosive and highly profitable!
but does any one know the high probable method to identify the true and false breakouts apart from just volume analysis. ???????:rolleyes:

...........
cheers
winston
I know but ofcourse I cant tell :D

Basically thats the holy grail, when you can identify if a move is for real or not.

Rgds
CV
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CreditViolet

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#4
smart man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:
i have read your posts and find u rational and logical , but know i know u r smart man!!!!!!
Yes...smart and slippery :D

Seriously I would be interested in the responses to your query, its basically the heart of trading. Not sure anyone who knows the answer will give a honest reply ;)

CV
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#5
hi,

all of us know breakouts when true , can be explosive and highly profitable!
but does any one know the high probable method to identify the true and false breakouts apart from just volume analysis. ???????:rolleyes:

...........
cheers
winston
One method can be to use the 23.6% envelope rule which keeps you out of the false breakouts.

Best Regards,
--Ashish
 

winstonn

Well-Known Member
#6
hi ashish,
it is great to hear from you! can u explain your method please!!
can you provide the back tested results for win / loss ratio , average profit for each winning trade , can this method work in all the environments of market like bear, bull , volatile to sideways

cheers,
winston
 
#7
hi ashish,
it is great to hear from you! can u explain your method please!!
can you provide the back tested results for win / loss ratio , average profit for each winning trade , can this method work in all the environments of market like bear, bull , volatile to sideways

cheers,
winston
The method is to add an envelope of 23.6% of the initial swing when the price enters a congestion zone. Will suggest you reading Joe Ross for a better understanding of the method.

Well, there is no method which works in all the markets but it keeps u away from false breakouts in any market.

About backtested results, I would suggest you to undertake the exrcise yourself as I do not undertake such mechanical backtesting exercises.

Best Regards,
--Ashish
 

Linus

Active Member
#8
hi,

all of us know breakouts when true , can be explosive and highly profitable!
but does any one know the high probable method to identify the true and false breakouts apart from just volume analysis. ???????:rolleyes:

...........
cheers
winston
Hi Winston,

The answer is hidden in your question ! A true brake out must have 'true' volume, otherwise kaputs !

Fibo.:D
 
#9
The method is to add an envelope of 23.6% of the initial swing when the price enters a congestion zone. Will suggest you reading Joe Ross for a better understanding of the method.

Well, there is no method which works in all the markets but it keeps u away from false breakouts in any market.

About backtested results, I would suggest you to undertake the exrcise yourself as I do not undertake such mechanical backtesting exercises.

Best Regards,
--Ashish
Hi Ashish,

How about waiting for a pull back. In some cases we will miss out on opporunity as the script might not pull back but a pull back will get us closer to our S/l and also a low volume pull back and again a up move from the BO point will make sure of us entering more sure trades.

Regards

Rahul
 
#10
Hi Ashish,

How about waiting for a pull back. In some cases we will miss out on opporunity as the script might not pull back but a pull back will get us closer to our S/l and also a low volume pull back and again a up move from the BO point will make sure of us entering more sure trades.

Regards

Rahul
Well, that is a good strategy. An indication of whether pullback will occur or not may be given by breakout volume itself.

Besides, one can go with 50% position sizing at the time of breakout itself to avoid being left out.

Regards,
--Ashish
 

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