A simple way to play positional NIFTY....!

linkon7

Well-Known Member
#1
I came across this simple method to play nifty. There is a formula that defines any good system. its called KISS formula : Keep It Simple and Stupid. It has to be simple, well defined and stupid enough to not require any brain work at all.

I have been searching for such a method and came across this one.

I am reproducing the rules for the system.


Entry/Exit:

(1) Always be in a trade.

(2) Entry into long means I have also exited the short.

(3) The faster line (red ) goes above the green - > Close shorts & immediately go long.

(4) The faster line (red ) goes below the green - > Close longs & immediately go short.

Stop Loss:

An initial acceptable range for the stop depending on your comfort level can be put. As the Nifty moves in your direction , immediately put the the stop at the purchase price + brokerage as soon as possible.

Hedge your Positions Daily :

The Nifty encounters lots of gaps up and down and this could go against our positions due to many market factors / changes which take place overnight. We therefore need to hedge our positions, EVERY DAY before close.

Keep in mind hedge positions are not to make profits. It has to be used as a hedge strictly, however if the hedge position is giving a hefty profit, discretion to close the open position lies with you.

The technique I follow :- If the system is long ( & you are long 500 futures) then 10 - 15 minutes before close buy same quantity (500 in this case) just out of the money puts.

Carry over these puts. Watch the market for the first 10 - 15 minutes next day.

If the market remains long and keeps getting strong, find a good rate to close your puts. As the put was out of the money, the loss from the puts would be less, than the profit from the long.

If the market gaps down or continues going down, book profits on the puts or keep a trailing stop loss which will offset the losses incurred from the nifty long position.

Vice Versa for short positions with calls.

Remember buy "just out of the money" options, which show decent volumes. For eg ; If Nifty Cash closed @ 4380 and you are long, then you should be buying 4300 or 4350 puts.

This will always keep you tension free, what ever be the global or overnight factors.

Gaps are more dangerous than brokerage, so you need to secure yourself from them.

Position sizing :

Start off with 1 lot and gradually add another lot after every 15 days of success.

Read the system carefully and try to understand it. Make sure you paper trade for some time before you take the plunge.


You can use the charts available in ya.hoo. for this....
 

linkon7

Well-Known Member
#2
those using amibroker can use this afl....

_SECTION_BEGIN("options EMA Crossover 1030 and 70");
// use in a 10 min time frame....
Plot( C, "Close", ParamColor("Color", colorBlack ), styleNoTitle | ParamStyle("Style") | GetPriceStyle() );
Range1=Optimize("range1",7,1,20,1);
Range2=Optimize("range2",103,1,125,1);

Buy = Cross((EMA(Close,range1)),(EMA(Close,range2)));
Sell = Cross(EMA(Close,range2),(EMA(Close,range1)));
Short = Sell;
Cover = Buy;

// plot expanded average

Plot(EMA( Close,range1), "70min-ema", colorRed );
Plot(EMA( Close,range2), "1030min-ema", colorGreen );

// plot arrows
shape = Buy * shapeUpArrow + Sell * shapeDownArrow;
PlotShapes( shape, IIf( Buy, colorGreen, colorRed ), 0, IIf( Buy, Low, High ) );

_SECTION_END();
 
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MurAtt

Well-Known Member
#4
Yes Ankit.

I used to follow this chart BUT at that time I was into position equity only with a limited capital of 20K so never used to trade it. Been with it since the last 1.5 to 2 years.

Always checked my investments thru this chart. Now 5/13EMA is mucho better and nowadays positional is out of flavor, intra is in with a 50-60 pts NF movement in 5 mins flat ....

:)
 

sibumajumdar

Well-Known Member
#5
I came across this simple method to play nifty. There is a formula that defines any good system. its called KISS formula : Keep It Simple and Stupid. It has to be simple, well defined and stupid enough to not require any brain work at all.

I have been searching for such a method and came across this one.

I am reproducing the rules for the system.


Entry/Exit:

(1) Always be in a trade.

(2) Entry into long means I have also exited the short.
(3) The faster line (red ) goes above the green - > Close shorts & immediately go long.

(4) The faster line (red ) goes below the green - > Close longs & immediately go short.

Stop Loss:

An initial acceptable range for the stop depending on your comfort level can be put. As the Nifty moves in your direction , immediately put the the stop at the purchase price + brokerage as soon as possible.

Hedge your Positions Daily :

The Nifty encounters lots of gaps up and down and this could go against our positions due to many market factors / changes which take place overnight. We therefore need to hedge our positions, EVERY DAY before close.

Keep in mind hedge positions are not to make profits. It has to be used as a hedge strictly, however if the hedge position is giving a hefty profit, discretion to close the open position lies with you.

The technique I follow :- If the system is long ( & you are long 500 futures) then 10 - 15 minutes before close buy same quantity (500 in this case) just out of the money puts.

Carry over these puts. Watch the market for the first 10 - 15 minutes next day.

If the market remains long and keeps getting strong, find a good rate to close your puts. As the put was out of the money, the loss from the puts would be less, than the profit from the long.

If the market gaps down or continues going down, book profits on the puts or keep a trailing stop loss which will offset the losses incurred from the nifty long position.

Vice Versa for short positions with calls.

Remember buy "just out of the money" options, which show decent volumes. For eg ; If Nifty Cash closed @ 4380 and you are long, then you should be buying 4300 or 4350 puts.

This will always keep you tension free, what ever be the global or overnight factors.

Gaps are more dangerous than brokerage, so you need to secure yourself from them.

Position sizing :

Start off with 1 lot and gradually add another lot after every 15 days of success.

Read the system carefully and try to understand it. Make sure you paper trade for some time before you take the plunge.


You can use the charts available in ya.hoo. for this....
Dear Linkon,

Read yr new Kiss system of positional NF trading. No doubt its simple but i have some confusions. If iam not long then how can i close my short position while red goes above green (point 3). Plz make my doubt clear. Actually pnt 1 is not very clear to me when u say---entry into long means i have also exited the short. Further plz give appropriate settings for macd, rsi, stoch etc. Long should be hedged with OTM Put but short shld be hedged with OTM or ITM Call? Plz tell if KISS can be done in PIB or not or amibroker is must. Further to state that iam much better now after staircase fall. I need ur personal guidance to get cleared my many doubts. For long missing ur trading advises. Thanks for sharing ur method with TJ Members. God Bless U.

SM
 

linkon7

Well-Known Member
#7
Dear Linkon,

Read yr new Kiss system of positional NF trading. No doubt its simple but i have some confusions. If iam not long then how can i close my short position while red goes above green (point 3). Plz make my doubt clear. Actually pnt 1 is not very clear to me when u say---entry into long means i have also exited the short. Further plz give appropriate settings for macd, rsi, stoch etc. Long should be hedged with OTM Put but short shld be hedged with OTM or ITM Call? Plz tell if KISS can be done in PIB or not or amibroker is must. Further to state that iam much better now after staircase fall. I need ur personal guidance to get cleared my many doubts. For long missing ur trading advises. Thanks for sharing ur method with TJ Members. God Bless U.

SM
Actually its not my system. Its been followed for a very long time by many successful people. For any system to be effective, it has to be simple, well defined and should require very little brain work during trading.

what i liked about this system is that it gives great result and is very simple. The stop loss / reversal point is the 1070 min ema. That's all. let the market go where ever it wants to go... you just need to reverse again at the 1030 min ema.

no other indicators is required. no MACD, RSI etc. I posted the yahoo chart so that people who dont have amibroker or any other TA software, can use that chart....and achieve the same result....
 
#8
those using amibroker can use this afl....

_SECTION_BEGIN("options EMA Crossover 1030 and 70");

Plot( C, "Close", ParamColor("Color", colorBlack ), styleNoTitle | ParamStyle("Style") | GetPriceStyle() );
Range1=Optimize("range1",7,1,20,1);
Range2=Optimize("range2",103,1,125,1);

Buy = Cross((EMA(Close,range1)),(EMA(Close,range2)));
Sell = Cross(EMA(Close,range2),(EMA(Close,range1)));
Short = Sell;
Cover = Buy;

// plot expanded average

Plot(EMA( Close,range1), "70min-ema", colorRed );
Plot(EMA( Close,range2), "1030min-ema", colorGreen );

// plot arrows
shape = Buy * shapeUpArrow + Sell * shapeDownArrow;
PlotShapes( shape, IIf( Buy, colorGreen, colorRed ), 0, IIf( Buy, Low, High ) );

_SECTION_END();
can u tell how to use this afl in amibroker :confused:
 

lvgandhi

Well-Known Member
#9
those using amibroker can use this afl....

_SECTION_BEGIN("options EMA Crossover 1030 and 70");

Plot( C, "Close", ParamColor("Color", colorBlack ), styleNoTitle | ParamStyle("Style") | GetPriceStyle() );
Range1=Optimize("range1",7,1,20,1);
Range2=Optimize("range2",103,1,125,1);

Buy = Cross((EMA(Close,range1)),(EMA(Close,range2)));
Sell = Cross(EMA(Close,range2),(EMA(Close,range1)));
Short = Sell;
Cover = Buy;

// plot expanded average

Plot(EMA( Close,range1), "70min-ema", colorRed );
Plot(EMA( Close,range2), "1030min-ema", colorGreen );

// plot arrows
shape = Buy * shapeUpArrow + Sell * shapeDownArrow;
PlotShapes( shape, IIf( Buy, colorGreen, colorRed ), 0, IIf( Buy, Low, High ) );

_SECTION_END();
In this first range is 1 to 20 and second one 1 to 125 with default setting of 7 and 103. In one min chart how it will give ema of 70 and 1030 min EMA.? will you please explain?
 

linkon7

Well-Known Member
#10
In this first range is 1 to 20 and second one 1 to 125 with default setting of 7 and 103. In one min chart how it will give ema of 70 and 1030 min EMA.? will you please explain?
Thanks for pointing it out....
I think we have to use a 10 min chart to get 70 min ema and 1030 min ema...
I used to look at the ya-hoo chart before and was having difficulty in getting to plot 1030 min in ami.... and one member was nice enough to show me this method...
Thanks again...
 

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