Any afl with small target but sure

#2
is there any afl in which target may be small but sureshot with same ratio of stoploss also.
Hey

Your same ratio of stop loss also means RR of one, that is achievable

Now please define what you mean by sure shot?

are you looking for Win/Loss ratio of 100% :confused: or maybe you are looking for 80 % - 90 % or more . . .


Happy :)
 

Shailu

Active Member
#3
Hey

Your same ratio of stop loss also means RR of one, that is achievable

Now please define what you mean by sure shot?

are you looking for Win/Loss ratio of 100% :confused: or maybe you are looking for 80 % - 90 % or more . . .


Happy :)
Happy Singh ji suppose 100 rs stock profit should be
Point35% but it should be sure . Sure means if stoploss
Also point35% than it should not hit 90% times.
 
#4
Happy Singh ji suppose 100 rs stock profit should be
Point35% but it should be sure . Sure means if stoploss
Also point35% than it should not hit 90% times.
Bro

sorry, not clearly understanding what your requirement is . . .


Happy :)
 

Shailu

Active Member
#5
suppose if we buy xyz stock @ 500 and i wana small profit ( .35%) 1.75rs
and that 1.75 should be achivable and stoploss also be 1.75 rs but target comes should be 90% time.
i just wana such afl breakout for small target.
 
#6
suppose if we buy xyz stock @ 500 and i wana small profit ( .35%) 1.75rs
and that 1.75 should be achivable and stoploss also be 1.75 rs but target comes should be 90% time.
i just wana such afl breakout for small target.
There is one such indicator called super magic trend
 

jahan

Well-Known Member
#7
suppose if we buy xyz stock @ 500 and i wana small profit ( .35%) 1.75rs
and that 1.75 should be achivable and stoploss also be 1.75 rs but target comes should be 90% time.
i just wana such afl breakout for small target.
HELLO,

SENIOR MEMBER'S LIKE U...... ASKING NEWBIE LIKE REQUIREMENT,

THE THING FROM 2006 ONWARDS U CAN'T ABLE TO FIND ....HOW DO U THINK THAT SOMEONE HERE PROVIDE U THE SAME.

HERE ARE SOME INFORMATION ON HOW MARKET UNFOLD IN REAL LIFE TRADING FROM ONE OF MY BOOK/PDF.
(NOT EXACTLY BUT EVEN WORSE,THIS INFORMATION WILL GIVE U SOME UNDERSTANDING).


Most traders have simply no idea how the markets work in the real world and,
therefore, have no idea how their profits and losses are anticipated to unfold. There are many
software packages that allow you to develop and back-test a multitude of strategies, enabling
you to generate trading reports. However, because these are just a simple statistical analysis of
trading results, they can often be misleading - especially when you see them in the context of a
bare analysis of just a set of numbers...without any understanding of how the markets really
unfold.
So, in this chapter I want to look at how the markets unfold and show you how profits and losses
fit into the real world scheme of things.
Over time, markets can unfold in three basic ways: they can go up; they can go down; they can
move sideways. Most of us are familiar with rising markets and falling markets but in reality a
sideways market is far more common. Typically, markets will spend about 2/3 of their time
moving sideways and about 1/3 of their time in a trend (moving either strongly up or down).
Most trading strategies rely on a market actually moving - either in an uptrend or a downtrend -to make money. Therefore, typically, you should anticipate making profits only about 1/3 of the
time.


However, most trading strategies or statistics about profits and losses, do not take into account
the observation that the markets are in a position where profits can be made only about 1/3 of
the time. This makes profit and loss statistics very misleading, particularly when the amateur
trader starts trading for real.
So what should you really anticipate as far as profits and losses are concerned?
Well, over the last 20 years that I have been involved in the markets and from seeing hundreds
of different trading systems, I have seen that profits and losses and breakeven (no profit or loss)
trades tend to unfold in approximately equal 1/3 segments. Put another way, about 1/3 of the
time you will be making losses, about 1/3 of the time you will be making breakeven trades and
about 1/3 of the time you will be making profits.


Hopefully, you can see that how you treat your breakeven trades has a huge effect on how you
report the percentage of winners. For example, if the breakeven trades are counted as losing
trades, you could have a system that is 66.6% losses and only 33.3% winners. In other words,
your profitability could quite easily be reported as 30-40% winning trades. On the surface, this
does not look good and will deter amateur traders.
However, if the breakeven trades are counted as winners (for example, if each breakeven trade
was actually just a $1 winner), the system in the last paragraph is turned on its head. Suddenly,
the system has 66.6% winners and 33.3% losers. Not surprisingly, this system is far more
appealing to most traders...
As you see, this is where statistics can be very misleading - you need to look into them in far
greater detail.
Again, trading typically seems to unfold in equal 1/3 segments where 1/3 of the time you will
have losing trades, 1/3 of the time you will have breakeven trades and the remaining 1/3 will be
profitable trades. But is that where the story ends? Well, not quite...because in reality the
profitable 1/3 splits down often into 1/2 where your profitable trades are small profits (such as
+2R or +3R) and 1/2 where your large profits (+5R and above) fall. What this actually means is
that you tend to make your largest profits only about 1/6 (1/2 of your profitable 1/3) of the time!
This is precisely where most amateur traders fall down.


In reality, then, you will spend 2/3 of the time either making losses (albeit small) and breakeven
trades and only about 1/6 of the time will you be making the big profits. Most amateur traders
find it very difficult to deal with this psychologically because most amateur traders - this is basic
human nature - want to be right all the time and have big profits all of the time. So, what
happens in practice is that the amateur trader will have 2, 3 or 4 losing or breakeven trades...
then, as soon as they get one winner, they will exit that winner too early. Buy not managing it
correctly, they cut one of their big profitable winners into a small winner. This can have a
devastating impact on their profitability because the big winners are necessary to make the
money overall. I am sure that you can understand that by not allowing these big winners to
develop, and banking profits too early, you miss out on the big winners.
It is quite strange that becoming a successful trader sometimes has more to do with dealing with
yourself on a psychological level - mainly by allowing your winning trades to run further - rather
than actually learning how to trade. I imagine this is why 97% of amateur traders end up losing
and only 3% end up becoming successful, profitable professional traders.
This is why you need to understand how markets unfold in the real world...so you can
understand why it is so important to let your big winners run. And also, to understand that to be
a successful profitable trader actually means treading water (small losses and breakeven
trades) most of the time, waiting for the few big winners to come through. In reality, you will not
have that many big winners but they are vital to your overall success as a trader.


As you can see, typically you should anticipate about 1/3 of the time you will be making losses
(but keeping them small at just -1R); 1/3 of the time making breakeven trades; the remaining
1/3 profitable, with the profitable 1/3 splitting into of the time small profits and the time
large profits. You should anticipate having large profitable trades only about 1/6
th
(16-17%) of
the time.
If you are going to become a successful professional trader, understanding this gives you a far
better chance of being able to manage your trades and letting the big profitable trades run -which is vital for your overall trading success.
Amateur traders expect to be right all the time and make big money all the time. In real life
nothing is further from the truth. As we have seen, on the surface you can have a 66% profitable
system (profits and break-even trades), but in reality the big profits unfold only about 16-17% of
the time.


REGARDS,
 

Shailu

Active Member
#9
HELLO,

SENIOR MEMBER'S LIKE U...... ASKING NEWBIE LIKE REQUIREMENT,

THE THING FROM 2006 ONWARDS U CAN'T ABLE TO FIND ....HOW DO U THINK THAT SOMEONE HERE PROVIDE U THE SAME.

HERE ARE SOME INFORMATION ON HOW MARKET UNFOLD IN REAL LIFE TRADING FROM ONE OF MY BOOK/PDF.
(NOT EXACTLY BUT EVEN WORSE,THIS INFORMATION WILL GIVE U SOME UNDERSTANDING).


Most traders have simply no idea how the markets work in the real world and,
therefore, have no idea how their profits and losses are anticipated to unfold. There are many
software packages that allow you to develop and back-test a multitude of strategies, enabling
you to generate trading reports. However, because these are just a simple statistical analysis of
trading results, they can often be misleading - especially when you see them in the context of a
bare analysis of just a set of numbers...without any understanding of how the markets really
unfold.
So, in this chapter I want to look at how the markets unfold and show you how profits and losses
fit into the real world scheme of things.
Over time, markets can unfold in three basic ways: they can go up; they can go down; they can
move sideways. Most of us are familiar with rising markets and falling markets but in reality a
sideways market is far more common. Typically, markets will spend about 2/3 of their time
moving sideways and about 1/3 of their time in a trend (moving either strongly up or down).
Most trading strategies rely on a market actually moving - either in an uptrend or a downtrend -to make money. Therefore, typically, you should anticipate making profits only about 1/3 of the
time.


However, most trading strategies or statistics about profits and losses, do not take into account
the observation that the markets are in a position where profits can be made only about 1/3 of
the time. This makes profit and loss statistics very misleading, particularly when the amateur
trader starts trading for real.
So what should you really anticipate as far as profits and losses are concerned?
Well, over the last 20 years that I have been involved in the markets and from seeing hundreds
of different trading systems, I have seen that profits and losses and breakeven (no profit or loss)
trades tend to unfold in approximately equal 1/3 segments. Put another way, about 1/3 of the
time you will be making losses, about 1/3 of the time you will be making breakeven trades and
about 1/3 of the time you will be making profits.


Hopefully, you can see that how you treat your breakeven trades has a huge effect on how you
report the percentage of winners. For example, if the breakeven trades are counted as losing
trades, you could have a system that is 66.6% losses and only 33.3% winners. In other words,
your profitability could quite easily be reported as 30-40% winning trades. On the surface, this
does not look good and will deter amateur traders.
However, if the breakeven trades are counted as winners (for example, if each breakeven trade
was actually just a $1 winner), the system in the last paragraph is turned on its head. Suddenly,
the system has 66.6% winners and 33.3% losers. Not surprisingly, this system is far more
appealing to most traders...
As you see, this is where statistics can be very misleading - you need to look into them in far
greater detail.
Again, trading typically seems to unfold in equal 1/3 segments where 1/3 of the time you will
have losing trades, 1/3 of the time you will have breakeven trades and the remaining 1/3 will be
profitable trades. But is that where the story ends? Well, not quite...because in reality the
profitable 1/3 splits down often into 1/2 where your profitable trades are small profits (such as
+2R or +3R) and 1/2 where your large profits (+5R and above) fall. What this actually means is
that you tend to make your largest profits only about 1/6 (1/2 of your profitable 1/3) of the time!
This is precisely where most amateur traders fall down.


In reality, then, you will spend 2/3 of the time either making losses (albeit small) and breakeven
trades and only about 1/6 of the time will you be making the big profits. Most amateur traders
find it very difficult to deal with this psychologically because most amateur traders - this is basic
human nature - want to be right all the time and have big profits all of the time. So, what
happens in practice is that the amateur trader will have 2, 3 or 4 losing or breakeven trades...
then, as soon as they get one winner, they will exit that winner too early. Buy not managing it
correctly, they cut one of their big profitable winners into a small winner. This can have a
devastating impact on their profitability because the big winners are necessary to make the
money overall. I am sure that you can understand that by not allowing these big winners to
develop, and banking profits too early, you miss out on the big winners.
It is quite strange that becoming a successful trader sometimes has more to do with dealing with
yourself on a psychological level - mainly by allowing your winning trades to run further - rather
than actually learning how to trade. I imagine this is why 97% of amateur traders end up losing
and only 3% end up becoming successful, profitable professional traders.
This is why you need to understand how markets unfold in the real world...so you can
understand why it is so important to let your big winners run. And also, to understand that to be
a successful profitable trader actually means treading water (small losses and breakeven
trades) most of the time, waiting for the few big winners to come through. In reality, you will not
have that many big winners but they are vital to your overall success as a trader.


As you can see, typically you should anticipate about 1/3 of the time you will be making losses
(but keeping them small at just -1R); 1/3 of the time making breakeven trades; the remaining
1/3 profitable, with the profitable 1/3 splitting into of the time small profits and the time
large profits. You should anticipate having large profitable trades only about 1/6
th
(16-17%) of
the time.
If you are going to become a successful professional trader, understanding this gives you a far
better chance of being able to manage your trades and letting the big profitable trades run -which is vital for your overall trading success.
Amateur traders expect to be right all the time and make big money all the time. In real life
nothing is further from the truth. As we have seen, on the surface you can have a 66% profitable
system (profits and break-even trades), but in reality the big profits unfold only about 16-17% of
the time.


REGARDS,
I just ask. But I think people like u r just leg puller but I
Don't care . Those who have good studies can provide
This. I think u didn't like that if some one help.
 

jahan

Well-Known Member
#10
i just ask. But i think people like u r just leg puller but i
don't care . Those who have good studies can provide
this. I think u didn't like that if some one help.

hello,

u take it as other way...my intention is to provide the information if ur already aware of these things.....then leave it go urway....iam not pulling ur leg....iam trying to save ur leg....

By the way i can challenge u nobody will provide u the afl which performs ur requirement....better u pay for insider information to get that kind of results.

Regards,
 
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