Stocks To Keep A Close Eye On - Chapter II

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asnavale

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@Anant Sir
If someone wants to try with different EMA parameters , he has to replace the 20 with X variable right ?
P = Param(“Averaging Period”, 20, 3, 100);
Hi Mangafreakz,

You don't have to replace 20 with your number. The staement P = Param("Averaging Period", 20, 3, 100) itself has built in values to change. The meaning of the statement is as follows:

P is a parameter, having name "Averaging Period", with a default value of 20, the minimum that can be assigned is 3 and maximum of 100. So, you can change the value of P in the range 3 to 100. For doing this change in the chart you have to right-click on the chart and click on Parameters. You will get a sub-menu with different variables that can be changed and a scale against each for changing their values. Click on the scale against "Averaging Period" and drag the pointer to change the value as per your choice. If you want to go back to default values, click on Reset button at the bottom and all variables will be set to their default values.

If you want to change the value for exploration, click on Parameters in the Exploration window and follow the same procedure.

If you want to have a range other than 3 to 100 then you have to replace the 3 and 100 in the code with your values. To change the default value replace 20 with whatever number you want but it should be within the range specified by the next to numbers.

I assumed that the range of 3 to 100 for averaging period would be sufficient. If there is a need to test other numbers outside this range you can make the changes to the P = Param(....) line in the AFL

Regards

-Anant
 

asnavale

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Hello friends,

If you have used and experimented with the AFL I posted earlier, you might have observed that it is not a perfect tool. You still get whipsaws, some false signals etc. I will post a few such things that you observe and also suggest some way to take care of these. Experts may give their valuable opinion in this regard.

Today I will explain one such phenomenon which you observe in stocks which have a good run for quite some time (for a couple of months the stock simply goes up hitting one target after the other). After a good run every stocks stops for a while and consolidates and resumes its up move. Savant has several times written about this with an anlogy of climbing several floors. During such consolidation, there will be a little down movement also. Just like you can not inhale continuously without exhaling in between, the stock also shows a downtrend for a short period. During such down trend the AFL may show a Sell trigger and then within 3 or 4 days a Buy trigger appears. This makes us get out of our position and re-enter unnecessarily costing us extra overheads. I have attached four such examples below, INFOSYSTCH, IRB, MARUTI and TORRNTPOWER all of which have a continuous run upwards since march but in between a few sell signals have appeared and quickly changed to give Buy triggers. I have marked these areas with circles on the charts.

When such things happen it is better to wait instead of rushing to sell the stock. When a stock gives Sell trigger after a long up move, just wait for 2 or 3 days to see if the trigger reverses. One sign of such reversal is that the stock after giving Sell trigger again shows a higher close or higher low next day. If this happens wait and decide after confirming the signal. If the stock continuously goes down (Making lower Low and Closing lower each day) for three consecutive days after the Sell Trigger then you can conclude that there is enough evidence that it will take some time for the stock to go up again and you can exit. This may give you slightly lower returns but protects against unnecessary exits. This is not a fool-proof method but works most of the time.

You can see many more such cases if you scan through the charts of different stocks in your database. The four charts below are just for example.



Tomorrow I will take another case and explain.

Regards

-Anant
 

SavantGarde

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Hi Talisman,

Thanks A Ton..!!!


Savant ji,

Following stocks have completed the targets. New targets for them are awaited.

Jindal Saw - (Next Target 818.85 S/L 557.50)

NIIT Ltd - (Next Target 78.20 S/L 68.55)

Mindtree - (Next Target 662.35 S/L 515.50)

ICSA - (Next Target 215.90 S/L 194.05)

Arvind - (Next Target 41.05 S/L 31.70)

Tata Motors - (Next Target 626.75 S/L 509.30)

ABG Ship - (Next Target 303.90 S/L 216.05)

Nalco - (Next Target 360.05 S/L 310.65)


Regards,
Happy & Safer Investing

SavantGarde
 

asnavale

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Hi Savant,

I have included BB(9, 2) in the AFL as suggested by you. The chart produced by this AFL is reproduced below. Is this what you are looking for? Please suggest any more additions so that I can include them.



Regards

-Anant
 

asnavale

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Dear friends,

Summary of updates for today (14-09-200) is as follows:

Buy Triggers (To be traded on 15-09-2009):
Code:
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SYMBOL           CMP        TARGET     STOPLOSS
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WOCKPHARMA      163.75      179.75       155.05      
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The following have triggered SELL today:

ACC, AMBUJACEM, DISHTV, DLF, GMRINFRA,
GSPL, GTLINFRA, HINDUNILVR, INDIACEM,
JPHYDRO, MLL, ONGC, RECLTD, ROLTA,
TATATEA, TECHM, TTML and VOLTAS

The following have achieved their targets today:

BANKINDIA, CANBK and ORIENTBANK

The following have Hit StopLoss today:

MOSERBAER and NOIDATOLL
-------------------------------------------------

TRADE THESE SIGNALS AT YOUR OWN RISK

Regards

-Anant
 

asnavale

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Hi Prasad,

BB As Mentioned Earlier While It Is Extremely Underrated, Is Still A Very Powerful Indicator.....While My Belief In The Same Is Undimished, Your Charts Should Further Be Useful To Those Who Still Are Shaky About It.

Friends Who Do Follow The Triggers Posted By Anant & Myself...Can Always Exit Appropriately, Where Even A Charting Software Is Not Required By Them....As Long As They Have Access To Internet...They Can Use The Several Free Online Charting Service Available...Including Yahoo Finance.

Anant Has Already Included BB In His AFL.....Whether, A Report Can Be Generated, Besides Just Visually Eyeballing The Chart To Look For A Red Bar Immediately After A Green Bar Piercing For A Temporary Exit....It Is Best Left To Anant To Answer That Since I Have No Programming Experience.

Now The Question In My Mind Is, If All The Above Can Be Done & Price Does Come Down...A Bit, To Consolidate For A Few Days...To Move Up Again...When Do We Give The Buy Trigger Again.......Here We Are Not Talking About The Lower BB Being Pierced Followed By A Green Bar Rule.


Happy & Safer Investing

SavantGarde
SG & Anant.

my two cents.

If BB piercing was considered, sell was triggered in in all the above stocks (ACC, Ambuja etc.,) some four days back.

I will try to post the charts as of friday.

please consider whether BB piercing will be beneficially included in the triggers.
prasad.
Hi,

Due to some urgent work I had to hurriedly close the earlier post above.

Coming to a more general explanation. As you all know I had this sytem back-tested till June end and started testing it by live mock trades from 01 July 2009 (In fact I have done some real trades also and benefited). In a back test there is always a chance of getting biased, knowingly or unknowingly, as the rest of the chart on right hand side is known. In a live test this part is not known and we have to take decision for tomorrow based on the information available till today. This makes the testing more effective. That is why I did not post the AFL based on back testing alone. While live testing was going on, you may remember, I used to post the triggers with a note NOT TO TRADE the triggers. After two months of live test I was confident and gave the AFL. From September, I am giving the triggers but with a warning TRADE AT YOUR OWN RISK and also with some remarks like 'Wait for confirmation'. This is because the system still needs improvements. All people who were just watching the triggers posted earlier can now use the AFL and take part in testing on a large scale and give their inputs for improvement.

Prasad has now given one such input and we can all work on it. I am trying to understand the BB piercing thoroughly so that i can write down the rules and incorporate in the AFL. Any suggestion on incorporating these rules are welcome. Also, please suggest any other improvements that can be added.

These additions also will be made only after live testing.

Meanwhile, I request Prasad to contribute by telling us which Buy triggers posted here have shown Sell condition based on BB technique. Instead of telling that a particular Sell trigger was already there few days back, please post as soon as you recognise them. We can use this information to verify the actual trigger given by the MA technique. That will greatly help in incorporating BB validation into the present AFL.

Regards

-Anant
 

asnavale

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Hi Friends,

NEW TRIGGERS of Today (for trading on 16-09-09) are given below:

BUY Triggers:

BHARATFORGE, CMP=231.70, Target=266.00, SL=202.00

NDTV, CMP=169.60, Target=190.05, SL=151.25


SELL Triggers:

SERLINBIO, CMP=111.85

3IINFOTECH, CMP=84.05, Requires confirmation

Out of thr previous Triggers, IBREALEST and MLL have negated the SELL triggers today and should not be sold at present
HIDUNILVR SELL signal is yet to be confirmed, hold till confirmation

TRADE THESE TRIGGERS AT YOUR OWN RISK


Regards

-Anant
 

SavantGarde

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Hi Talisman,

Thanks A Ton..!!!


Savant ji,

Following stocks have achieved their targets.

HCL Tech - with total 39.05% profit (Next Target 328.35 S/L 304.85)

Orchid Chemical - with total 53.60% profit (Next Target 200.05 S/L 120.70)

ALBK - with profit of 27.53% (Next Target 138.40 S/L 96.05)

ChennaiPetro - with total 63.80% profit (Next Target 287.35 S/L 219.50)

Apollo Tyre - with profit of 26.94% (Next Target 57.65 S/L 42.90)

SBIN - with total profit of 20.82% (Next Target 2326.95 S/L 1871.10)

Indian Bank - with total profit of 16.99% (Next Target 194.05 S/L 139.80)

Infosys - with total profit of 14.57% (Next Target 2442.20 S/L 2207.80)

CanBk - with total profit of 16.64% (Next Target 367.45 S/L 288.60)

PNB - with total profit of 13 % (Next Target 888.30 S/L 681.15)

Ballarpur - with total 24.56% profit (Next Target 28.15 S/L 22.85)

Regards,
Happy & Safer Investing

SavantGarde
 
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