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What if earthquake hits and our entire state looses power, internet, mobile network. I start the expiry day by converting all NRML positions to MIS.:eek:
This is a very simple yet a brilliant idea. :thumb:

Zerodha can put a system in place where on each expiry day, (every Thursday for bank nifty options and every monthend Thursday for all other options) for options trading only MIS will be enabled. And overnight positions of NRML for any trader will be automatically be converted to MIS at the start of the day.

Seriously, Zerodha, bounce off this idea and think over its implementation. Can be instantly be implemented with minor tweaking. Peace of mind for you. This solves all the problem. If you cant fight them, join them.
 

travi

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Hi friends,

This is a petition initiated by Nithin Kamath which is given in zerodha monthly updates email. Please support this.
Me too still a loss bearing trader and fall under 8% profit... Do support.

Here is the link to sign petition
https://www.change.org/p/minister-o...m_campaign=Updates+at+Zerodha+-+February+2015

Here is petition details.
Exclude Business of trading in securities and derivatives from Section 44AD
Nithin Kamath
India

Section 44AD requires books to be audited if the profit made in a financial year is less than 8% of turnover while trading on Indian exchanges. This causes unnecessary burden and an eventual non - compliance by most small retail traders and investors

Firstly, turnover in reality is not the contract turnover but the sum of settlement profit and losses. So if 100 x Nifty is bought at 8500 and sold at 8510, the turnover is Rs 1000 ( the profit made on this trade) and not Rs 1710000 ( 8500x100 + 8510x100). Sum of all such profits and losses make up for the total turnover in a financial year.

Trading on exchanges is unlike other businesses. It is not a mainstream profession, and most people who participate have other businesses or jobs.
Unlike other businesses, turnover and profits are not co-related. A significant majority of traders (over 95%) make profits lesser than 8% of the turnover generated.

Problem

Because of Section 44AD, 95% of the trading population who are mainly middle class and below, and who don't trade the markets professionally are forced to maintain books of accounts and have them audited by a CA. The cost of auditing paid to the CA (between Rs 10,000 to Rs 50,000) is a further burden to the investor/trader.
Ignorance of Book keeping, and not being able to afford the audit fees, most people end up not declaring their trading activity while filing Income tax returns, taking an even bigger risk without realizing the repercussions in case of an IT scrutiny.

Petition

Section 44AB (audit required if turnover more than Rs 1 crore) ensures that anyone trading the markets professionally has to maintain books and have it audited by a CA.

But Section 44AD is causing unnecessary burden to the retail, small investor and trading community, further shrinking the already minuscule retail participation in capital markets.

By excluding trading in securities and derivatives market from section 44AD, you will not only be helping grow the Indian capital markets, but will also help exponentially increase compliance of the small investor/trader while filing IT returns.

Regards.
Bumping this post up as well :D
 

pannet1

Well-Known Member
Maybe we should start another petition on internet seeking action about the brokers having a bad backoffice :D
I strongly object to this. Presently Z does not have a backoffice. Everyone enter in the front and leave through the same door. :annoyed:
 

pannet1

Well-Known Member
This is a very simple yet a brilliant idea. :thumb:

Zerodha can put a system in place where on each expiry day, (every Thursday for bank nifty options and every monthend Thursday for all other options) for options trading only MIS will be enabled. And overnight positions of NRML for any trader will be automatically be converted to MIS at the start of the day.

Seriously, Zerodha, bounce off this idea and think over its implementation. Can be instantly be implemented with minor tweaking. Peace of mind for you. This solves all the problem. If you cant fight them, join them.
Thanks brother. But there are people who go to market when everybody packs and go home on expiry.

For a moment, I thought chirag brother should have sold instead of buying :lol:
 

travi

Well-Known Member
If I buy an option for Rs.0.50 and it becomes Rs.0.05 and no buyers.I am not able to sell.what will happen?
Bhai, read the post properly. This is another issue related to IT audits.

It cares to pay attention to details :D That's the Traders EDGE.
 

comm4300

Well-Known Member
This is a very simple yet a brilliant idea. :thumb:

Zerodha can put a system in place where on each expiry day, (every Thursday for bank nifty options and every monthend Thursday for all other options) for options trading only MIS will be enabled. And overnight positions of NRML for any trader will be automatically be converted to MIS at the start of the day.

Seriously, Zerodha, bounce off this idea and think over its implementation. Can be instantly be implemented with minor tweaking. Peace of mind for you. This solves all the problem. If you cant fight them, join them.
only for long options please and NOT for any written option.
 
Thanks brother. But there are people who go to market when everybody packs and go home on expiry.

For a moment, I thought chirag brother should have sold instead of buying :lol:
How could he have sold Bhai, there were no buyers at 15:25, he stepped as a lone warrior at 15:25 and punched 30 orders to buy 7500 quantity of options.

Fir Chirag bujh gaya.

only for long options please and NOT for any written option.
Arey Bhai abhi to basti bassi nahi aur ....:rofl:.

Btw, auto squaring post 15:15 for long or short options should not matter much. Waise bhi last 15 min mein SHORT options mein kitna kama loge.
 

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