Option Writing for regular earnings

#1
Hi all

I am opening this thread for Traders who write options to share their strategies and ideas. With my little knowledge in derivatives market,i feel that only option writers are net gainers rather than buyers.

I am sharing a strategy for your kind suggestions.
Current nifty level--5995(Approximately 6000)
+8% strike price=== 6500
-8% strike price=== 5500
6500 PE === 432
5500 CE === 582
short one lot of each options(margin money reqd==rs90000)
on expiry date==if nifty btwn 5500 and 6500 Max gain =68+82=150*50=rs7500
loss only if nifty less than 5500 or greater than 6500

this gives you almost 7-8 % returns per month
strategy can be continously applied for next month series anytime and less monitoring required.ideal for busy people as a regular income

reviews expected
 
#4
Dear Frnds,

Normally how much margin require to write one lot of nifty?(other dan premium). Pl explain me in details.. thanks in advance

Vittal
 

pannalal

Well-Known Member
#5
6500 pe has a premium of rs 68(6500-6000=500-432) and
5500 ce has a premium of rs 82(6000-5500=500-582)

so is it 150 instead of 14 ?
Renjith Paulji,

The total premium received is 432 + 582 = 1014. So, the net profit will be 14 points only provided Nifty closes in the range of 5500 and 6500 on expiry day. There is another issue. When premium is so high, there will be lot of gap between bid and ask. So, while doing transaction, it might be possible that you get only 1000 points and no profit at all. Further, you also need to pay brokerage, STT and Stamp duty. So, where is the profit?:)

Stock market is an efficient market and price computed are such that to get profit, you need to take risk. There is no free lunch.:lol:
 

SaravananKS

Well-Known Member
#6
Hi all

I am opening this thread for Traders who write options to share their strategies and ideas. With my little knowledge in derivatives market,i feel that only option writers are net gainers rather than buyers.

I am sharing a strategy for your kind suggestions.
Current nifty level--5995(Approximately 6000)
+8% strike price=== 6500
-8% strike price=== 5500
6500 PE === 432
5500 CE === 582
short one lot of each options(margin money reqd==rs90000)
on expiry date==if nifty btwn 5500 and 6500 Max gain =68+82=150*50=rs7500
loss only if nifty less than 5500 or greater than 6500

this gives you almost 7-8 % returns per month
strategy can be continously applied for next month series anytime and less monitoring required.ideal for busy people as a regular income

reviews expected
This Strategy Requires Large margin + Taxes Likes STT

Though High Probabilities is there for a settlement in this range 6500-5500 Band
you may consider selling 6500 CE and 5500 PE
which gives almost similar return (Theoretically) But less Transaction Cost
:thumb:
 
#7
Hi all

I am opening this thread for Traders who write options to share their strategies and ideas. With my little knowledge in derivatives market,i feel that only option writers are net gainers rather than buyers.

I am sharing a strategy for your kind suggestions.
Current nifty level--5995(Approximately 6000)
+8% strike price=== 6500
-8% strike price=== 5500
6500 PE === 432
5500 CE === 582
short one lot of each options(margin money reqd==rs90000)
on expiry date==if nifty btwn 5500 and 6500 Max gain =68+82=150*50=rs7500
loss only if nifty less than 5500 or greater than 6500

this gives you almost 7-8 % returns per month
strategy can be continously applied for next month series anytime and less monitoring required.ideal for busy people as a regular income

reviews expected
Bhai not to hurt. But learn options trading stragegy properly.


If almost 7 to 8 anyone get monthly income , if compounded it will be 100% annually. Do you think those instituitional invesors dont know this strategy.
You will get only 14 points. After deducting brokerage, There will be variations in bid/offer price. If market crashes say 15% Just imagine how much you will lose for risking 5 or 10 points. Market rarely crashes but dont know it may crash at any time. We should be prepared for that. For example if congress govt loses support etc. Any bad news for fiis etc.
 
#8
This Strategy Requires Large margin + Taxes Likes STT

Though High Probabilities is there for a settlement in this range 6500-5500 Band
you may consider selling 6500 CE and 5500 PE
which gives almost similar return (Theoretically) But less Transaction Cost
:thumb:
High STT is for buyers and not for sellers. For sellers low STT
 

SaravananKS

Well-Known Member
#9
High STT is for buyers and not for sellers. For sellers low STT
yes, I agree any way you has to buy that options since Both Options are in the money if this Strategy gives money at settlement then you have to buy that options any way..

if did not buy that options leaving open then again I think broker charges high STT assuming you have bought at settlement price(Personally I do not such experience in holding short in the money options)
 
#10
yes, I agree any way you has to buy that options since Both Options are in the money if this Strategy gives money at settlement then you have to buy that options any way..

if did not buy that options leaving open then again I think broker charges high STT assuming you have bought at settlement price(Personally I do not such experience in holding short in the money options)

Please read this carefullly



Why do options trade at lesser than theoretical value on the last day of expiry?

Why is it important to square off ITM (in the money) options rather than let them expire on the expiry day?

Not knowing answer to the above questions can cause a potential loss and hence the reason for writing this blog. I am assuming that all of you reading understand the basics of option trading.

Many of us would have had the following 2 questions or faced similar scenarios at some point of our trading career:

1. Nifty is trading at 5950 and today is the day of expiry. At around 2:00 PM, Nifty 5900 calls and 6000 puts are trading at around Rs 45. Ideally it should be at least 50, so why?

2. I had bought Nifty 5800 calls and Nifty closed at 5803 on expiry day. I could have sold it on the exchange but thought otherwise and let it expire assuming I will get back at least Rs 150 (Rs 3 x 50)/lot. To my shock, the contract note sent to me by the broker in the evening showed a debit of Rs 200/lot and when I called the broker some lady on the support team told it was a penalty from the exchange or more STT or some similar reason, so why?

The seeming anamoly in the price or the extra debit in the above scenarios is because of how STT (Security Transaction Tax) is considered for options that are exercised. Options are considered exercised if you hold buy positions in options till the end of expiry (till after 3.30pm on last thursday of the month) and with them having some intrinsic value or being ITM (in the money).

STT on normal option trades done on the exchange is 0.017% of the selling side of the premium value.

So, if you buy 1 lot of Nifty 5900 options at Rs 100 and sell it at Rs 100, you have to pay 0.017% of the premium value on the selling side. So while buying 50 x Rs 100 you don’t have to pay STT, but while selling you have to pay STT of Rs 0.85 [0.017% of Rs 5000 (50 x 100)]. Usually the STT component while trading options is almost insignificant, in this example it is only Rs 0.85.

STT on BUY option positions that get exercised is 0.125% of the entire CONTRACT VALUE.

So, if you had bought 1 lot of Nifty 5900 options at Rs 100 and didn’t sell it but let it expire on the last day of the contract, it is considered exercised. Again while buying there is no STT, but since it is exercised on the selling side you would pay an STT of Rs 375* much higher than Rs 0.85 which you would have paid if sold on the exchange instead of exercising.

*Rs 375 = 0.125% of ( (5900+100) x 50). Rs 375 would mean more than 7 points of movement on Nifty options, that is how high the impact of STT could be.

Do remember that if you are short / written options (sold first), you have already paid STT and it doesn’t matter if you buy the options on the exchange or hold them till expiry to square off, there is no STT on the buying side.

Currency trading in India presently has no STT levied by the government and hence you don’t have to be worried about paying higher STT while trading currency options on the expiry day.

With this knowledge the above 2 scenarios will suddenly start making sense.

1. It is the last day of expiry with Nifty at 5950 and if I buy 5900 calls or 6000 puts and I hold it till the end of the day I will have to pay STT of almost Rs 370 (0.125% of (5900+50)*50) which is almost 8 points of movement on Nifty options. So a 5900 call/ 6000 put which should be trading above 50 if nifty is at 5950 will have to factor in this 8 points as STT, hence the value of ITM options will seem lesser on the last day of expiry. So a Nifty 5900 call which should be at least 50 if Nifty is around 5950 will be at 45, because everyone trading is factoring in the fact that STT will be much higher if the option is held till the end of that day. Similarly with the puts as well.

2. You had 5800 calls and Nifty futures closed on expiry at 5803. Yes, your contract note will show a credit from your option sale of Rs 150 (3×50) but since you let it expire in the money it is treated as an exercised option and hence your contract note will also have an STT debit of Rs 362 (0.125% of (5803*50)). So net, instead of receiving Rs 150, you will now end up having to pay Rs 212.

In gist, on expiry day,

1. If you have bought options and they are expiring in the money, you would rather sell it on the exchange than let it expire/exercise and having to pay much higher STT.

2. If the options are expiring worthless (with 0 value), you don’t have to sell it to save STT because STT on options which has no value is zero.

3. If you see options which seem to be cheap (trading lesser than theoretical value), do consider the fact that it is so because of higher STT and will not magically correct before the end of the day.

Many traders every expiry fall into the STT trap by either not selling their ITM options and letting it expire (especially which are very close to strike price) or else take trades/strategies assuming that discounted price of option will correct before the end of the expiry day. Hopefully the blog has explained you on why not to do so.

Do share the knowledge with fellow traders,

Happy Trading,
 

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