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joy_mitali said:
Hello Saint and col Jaspal,
I feel elevated---that my my journey has been a source of recapitulation of the happier memories--for at least a few in this forum---
To Saint:
A person of ur nature---I'm sure will move soon----in some isolated journey-----which will not just recharge u ---but will do a lot more good to all ---who r in ur company---directly or indirectly----
To colJaspal:
Thanks Sir,for ur inspiring words.We ,both have fallen in love with the Himalayas---and would like to go again ----whenever we get a chance----But being ordinary civilians---we r not at all trained with the different aspects of mountainaring---nor do we have the time to do any course---So if u kindly ,let us know----how we can prepare ourselves---we will be obliged to u---
Regards,
joy_mitali
I feel elevated---that my my journey has been a source of recapitulation of the happier memories--for at least a few in this forum---
To Saint:
A person of ur nature---I'm sure will move soon----in some isolated journey-----which will not just recharge u ---but will do a lot more good to all ---who r in ur company---directly or indirectly----
To colJaspal:
Thanks Sir,for ur inspiring words.We ,both have fallen in love with the Himalayas---and would like to go again ----whenever we get a chance----But being ordinary civilians---we r not at all trained with the different aspects of mountainaring---nor do we have the time to do any course---So if u kindly ,let us know----how we can prepare ourselves---we will be obliged to u---
Regards,
joy_mitali
There are a number of tour operators specialising in trekking in the Himalayas. In that area, I would recommend that when you want trek/climb ahead of Gomukh, keep at least half a day for Nehru Institute of Mountaineering (NIM). They are generally quite helpful and also give out equipment on hire after keeping a deposit. Their office telephone is 01374-22123. Give them a call while still at the planning stage. If you would like to prepare and learn rock and ice climbing, then you will have to find time for at least the basic course at NIM which is of about a month's duration. Similar courses are also run at HMI, Darjeeling and WHMI, Manali.
Happy climbing,
Jaspal
Hello Col Jaspal,
Thanks Sir,for all the info-----But lets be frank---I wont probably be able to take out a mnth's time for NIM's basic course---which I have also heard before----But any way----Where there is a will--there will probably be a way---If possible let me know,Sir---what r the possible ways in which both of us can prepare ourselves---regularly with a target of around 6--8 mths----
so that we can atleast enjoy the beauties of the Himalayas---
Regards,
joy_mitali
Thanks Sir,for all the info-----But lets be frank---I wont probably be able to take out a mnth's time for NIM's basic course---which I have also heard before----But any way----Where there is a will--there will probably be a way---If possible let me know,Sir---what r the possible ways in which both of us can prepare ourselves---regularly with a target of around 6--8 mths----
so that we can atleast enjoy the beauties of the Himalayas---
Regards,
joy_mitali
Dear Joy Mitali & all the other members who have shared their experience in this expedetion.By going through,for a person from extreme south,it is as though i had visited the holy mountains & taken a holy dip in the sacred rivers.My passion has increased more to visit these places.all the best.
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Welcome back Joy,
good to know that you had a great trip. hopefully it would have blessed you with more heart and wisdom.
we are also benefited by reading your posts. It inspires us to take time and make a spiritual trip.
I want to make a trip from kanyakumari to himalayas once in my life time. Alas, like Aadi Shankaracharya and close to him Swami Vivekananda.
Satya
good to know that you had a great trip. hopefully it would have blessed you with more heart and wisdom.
we are also benefited by reading your posts. It inspires us to take time and make a spiritual trip.
I want to make a trip from kanyakumari to himalayas once in my life time. Alas, like Aadi Shankaracharya and close to him Swami Vivekananda.
Satya
Hi Srisara,
Thanks, for ur warm welcome---
Regarding ur future wish to make a trip from Kanyakumari to Himalaya--I would like to tell a small story---which I read in The Times Of India --today--
Hope--u dont interpret it in the wrong sense---
Once a beggar came to ask for some alms to Youdisthuir--the eldest brother of the Pandavas--in Mahabharata----To the beggars surprise,--Youdisthir asked him to come to him the following day--to take the alms.The beggar didn't said anything---but walked away with a little bit of dispair---
Bhima ---his younger brother---was standing near by---and was hearing everything.Seeing the beggar going away--Bhima started doing a strange thing.He started finding a drum and then started going towards the town.Seeing such a strange act---Youdhisthir asked Bhima ---where he was going.Bhima replied that he was going to the town to tell everybody---that his eldest brother has conqued time.Hearing such a strange thing ---Youdisthir suprisingly asked Bhima ---when has he made such a statement.Bhima replied"Brother,U have said so---by ur act".When asked for clarification ---Bhima replied to Youdisthir---How was he sure that he was going to live tomorrow?Even if he lived---how was he so sure that the beggar was going to live tomorrow?And even if both would live---how was he sure that --he would have the requisit alms to give tomorrow?And even if he had the alms----how was he sure ---that the beggar would require the alms tomorrow?And even both of them had satisfied all the requirments---how was he sure that both of them would meet tomorrow?---All this was only possible----provided Youdisthir had become the first person who had conqured time.So Bhima replied---that he was to going to the town to announce everybody that his his eldest brother---Yodusthir has really conqured ---"TIME"----
Dearest friend---I'm sure---u have understood the moral-----of the story---Leave making plans for the future -----friend--and just go out----taking a leave for a few days---Start from anywhere u like---But do start the journey---U will understand ---how nature gives u company each and every instant----in the midst of all odds-----how our good countrymen ----irrespective of caste ,creed ,religion and riches(or rauges)---helps u ---in different circumstances-----IF u dont go out--MAN---u will miss everything----u will miss the fun of life------
"Arise,Awake-----Stop not till the GOAL is reached----"----Dear---friend---whats the GOAL---u need to decide ur own self----
Regards,
joy_mitali
Thanks, for ur warm welcome---
Regarding ur future wish to make a trip from Kanyakumari to Himalaya--I would like to tell a small story---which I read in The Times Of India --today--
Hope--u dont interpret it in the wrong sense---
Once a beggar came to ask for some alms to Youdisthuir--the eldest brother of the Pandavas--in Mahabharata----To the beggars surprise,--Youdisthir asked him to come to him the following day--to take the alms.The beggar didn't said anything---but walked away with a little bit of dispair---
Bhima ---his younger brother---was standing near by---and was hearing everything.Seeing the beggar going away--Bhima started doing a strange thing.He started finding a drum and then started going towards the town.Seeing such a strange act---Youdhisthir asked Bhima ---where he was going.Bhima replied that he was going to the town to tell everybody---that his eldest brother has conqued time.Hearing such a strange thing ---Youdisthir suprisingly asked Bhima ---when has he made such a statement.Bhima replied"Brother,U have said so---by ur act".When asked for clarification ---Bhima replied to Youdisthir---How was he sure that he was going to live tomorrow?Even if he lived---how was he so sure that the beggar was going to live tomorrow?And even if both would live---how was he sure that --he would have the requisit alms to give tomorrow?And even if he had the alms----how was he sure ---that the beggar would require the alms tomorrow?And even both of them had satisfied all the requirments---how was he sure that both of them would meet tomorrow?---All this was only possible----provided Youdisthir had become the first person who had conqured time.So Bhima replied---that he was to going to the town to announce everybody that his his eldest brother---Yodusthir has really conqured ---"TIME"----
Dearest friend---I'm sure---u have understood the moral-----of the story---Leave making plans for the future -----friend--and just go out----taking a leave for a few days---Start from anywhere u like---But do start the journey---U will understand ---how nature gives u company each and every instant----in the midst of all odds-----how our good countrymen ----irrespective of caste ,creed ,religion and riches(or rauges)---helps u ---in different circumstances-----IF u dont go out--MAN---u will miss everything----u will miss the fun of life------
"Arise,Awake-----Stop not till the GOAL is reached----"----Dear---friend---whats the GOAL---u need to decide ur own self----
Regards,
joy_mitali
Yes Joy,
you are part true. but, if feel for everything to fall in line we need time and venue. we cannot suddenly rush for the things.
My intrepretation of the above moral is, If someone comes or asks for a help, dont turn him down (saying come tomorrow, next week).
Its not that we should not have future plans.
Future plans and helping others are different. What Bhima says is, when someone comes at your doorstep (say for help or for biksha) , he is in need at that point of time.
Give whatever you can give him because you dont know what is tomorrow. If by chance that person dies, can you fulfill his wish?
There is no wrong, if your wishes / dreams does not come true,because you alone will be responsible for it. But, if you promise and dont help other, you'll be responsible for that Papam.
I want to become a Prime Minister( it may happen or it may not). That doesnt hurt anyone.
But promising others and not fulfilling will definitely earn the wrath of the bad deeds.
you want to become a Post Graduate, how can you become without completing it? for it you need to act(action-study-pass) and also you need to be eligible to apply for a P.G course, the thing here is dont leave it to GOD, you do your actions, leave the result to GOD. (alsas what Sri Krishna has said in Bhagavad Gita, do your actions and leave the result to me).
that is the meaning.
mine is not a plan, its a wish. its come true or not doesnt matter. But, there should be a sincerity (honesty) in what you wish to make it true.
Hope...its clears all our doubts.
Satya
you are part true. but, if feel for everything to fall in line we need time and venue. we cannot suddenly rush for the things.
My intrepretation of the above moral is, If someone comes or asks for a help, dont turn him down (saying come tomorrow, next week).
Its not that we should not have future plans.
Future plans and helping others are different. What Bhima says is, when someone comes at your doorstep (say for help or for biksha) , he is in need at that point of time.
Give whatever you can give him because you dont know what is tomorrow. If by chance that person dies, can you fulfill his wish?
There is no wrong, if your wishes / dreams does not come true,because you alone will be responsible for it. But, if you promise and dont help other, you'll be responsible for that Papam.
I want to become a Prime Minister( it may happen or it may not). That doesnt hurt anyone.
But promising others and not fulfilling will definitely earn the wrath of the bad deeds.
you want to become a Post Graduate, how can you become without completing it? for it you need to act(action-study-pass) and also you need to be eligible to apply for a P.G course, the thing here is dont leave it to GOD, you do your actions, leave the result to GOD. (alsas what Sri Krishna has said in Bhagavad Gita, do your actions and leave the result to me).
that is the meaning.
mine is not a plan, its a wish. its come true or not doesnt matter. But, there should be a sincerity (honesty) in what you wish to make it true.
Hope...its clears all our doubts.
Satya
joy_mitali said:
Hello Col Jaspal,
Thanks Sir,for all the info-----But lets be frank---I wont probably be able to take out a mnth's time for NIM's basic course---which I have also heard before----But any way----Where there is a will--there will probably be a way---If possible let me know,Sir---what r the possible ways in which both of us can prepare ourselves---regularly with a target of around 6--8 mths----
so that we can atleast enjoy the beauties of the Himalayas---
Regards,
joy_mitali
Thanks Sir,for all the info-----But lets be frank---I wont probably be able to take out a mnth's time for NIM's basic course---which I have also heard before----But any way----Where there is a will--there will probably be a way---If possible let me know,Sir---what r the possible ways in which both of us can prepare ourselves---regularly with a target of around 6--8 mths----
so that we can atleast enjoy the beauties of the Himalayas---
Regards,
joy_mitali
Sorry I missed this message of yours earlier and only saw it today when this thread showed up in 'Today's Posts'.
The best way to prepare is by generally remaining fit and preparing earnestly from about a month before venturing out on the mountains. Long walks in the country side around you, possibly on Sundays or when yu have a day off are ideal. You could gradually start carrying rucksacks with 10 - 15 kg, which must include water and snacks. If there are hills/small hilloks around, climb each of them. When you are physically fit enough to walk briskly eight or more hours a day, with possibly 1 or 2 hours of rest in between, you'll find you enjoy the mountains even more, because you move faster, there is no fatigue, lesser chances of injury/ blisters etc, and you concentrate on the nature/scenic beauty around you. Rock climbing is also easy to pick up without formal instruction. Try climbing trees and high boundary walls. If you ever visit Delhi, there is a climbing wall at the Indian Mountaineering Foundation near South Campus.
But, one advice, if it's just going to be just the two of you, then please don't attempt to climb a peak, even a minor one. There are many hazards, most beyond your control. Stick to known trekking routes and in the recommended seasons. And take a local porter along. There are lovely treks in the area where you have been, in Kumaon, Himachal, Kashmir and also the North East. And detailed information on each is readily available on the net.
All the best,
Jaspal
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