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*The big myth on Income Tax Payers in India;*

Data from a Chartered Accountants'Company Secretaries and other professional bodies and groups.......;

FM said during his budget speech that we are largely a tax *'non- compliant'* society and presented that only *3.7 crores* are filing ITRs in this poor country of 125 crore population .

*The reply by CAs ,CSs,CMA,s

Sir,
We have 82 crore voters out of which,

- *75% are agriculturists* ie. 61.5 crores ( You exempted them straightaway, but they can also buy cars , bungalows etc. as you quoted.. Your political colleagues are also enjoying this exemption)

*Balance remains... 20.5 crores*

*Less:24% BPL class* ( Below poverty line)

Means 15 crore population ( which is non agriculturist and non BPL) ..

*Less : Senior Citizens, Non working wives, unemployed youths, below-taxable income earners... political class.. (say 75%)* ... in a typical indian family only 1 earning member and 5/6 are dependent on him....

*Balance: (15-11.25)=3.75 crores is the earning class ... which can file ITRs and ... they are already filing it...*

.... So almost no gap as FM is stressing unnecessarily without knowing his country


if FM wants more people to come into tax net ... then... instead foolishly resorting to rampant raids, surveys, notices, scrutiny, demonetization etc etc viewed as *tax terrorism* ...

he should defy his negative bureaucrats and .......

1. Introduce simple Income Tax on Agricultural Income on large landlords ( Say 10 Acres plus ) - you can add 26% of Agriculturists as tax payers *( Politicians are also enjoying this exemption )*

2. Instead of introducing 5000 /10000 penalties on late filers of IT return ...
*come out with positive approach and introduce incentives to IT return filers* ( learn from Pakistan, IT assesses gets discount in purchase of Car )

3. *Introduce Privilege card to those paying taxes above certain limit.. privilege card to entitle assessee with benefits like Priority quota in railway tickets , Use of airport lounges, subsidised medical facilities, etc etc... let Tax payers feel proud*

4. *Introduce medical insurance / life insurance on basis of average ITR filled... like coverage upto twice of Gross Income in ITR filed for mediclaim and ten times risk cover in case of life insurance*

5. *Introduce Pension after 65 yrs of age on the basis of tax paid by tax payer during his working life..*

Let honest taxpayers get certain direct benefits....

As on today, 3.3% of Indian population is filing ITRs as compared to 8% of China...adding large agriculturists to Income Tax may shoot the figure to more than 10% .... it may help you to cool your tax terrorism mindset and a tax compliant nation ...
Thats some very cool suggestions, but bureaucracy won't allow any one of them.

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manish9300

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Zerodha trader not working.Was able to login before 9:00am but then i got socket failure.So had to login again.Now no login panel........stuck at first screen which is showing blank.Zerodha keeping up its reputation.lol.
 

vikas2131

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A SL of 2 * % SL of nifty would that be good enough? Any yardstick you use of what should be % SL in stocks in comparison to nifty.

A 1.5% SL on hdfcbank = 30 points.

Just calculated the margin requirement formulae
SL* (lot size) * 100/2.5 for 2.5% risk per trade.

30 * 500 *100/2.5 = 6 lacs (account size for trading 1 lot)
40 point SL (2 % sl ) = 8 lac (account size for trading 1 lot)

Bhai large sl ke liye large pockets bhi hona chahiye na.
This situation is about to become worse because lot size will be raised to 10 lakhs or higher...so anybody who does not large pockets ,wont be able to trade equity F&O except intrday..
 
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lemondew

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Yup read sts reply too. Each stock has its own swings. I dont have much stock data to backtest. Ab jo hai usi se kaam chalao. Jai ram ji ki.

This situation is about to become worse because lot size will be raised to 10 lakhs or higher...so anybody who does not large pockets ,wont be able to trade equity F&O expect intrday..
 

bpr

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what are the most common problems with them bro ??
their TDV program run out of memory every often ...
TDV needs to be restarted everyday as well as your charting program ...
Data updation speed varies sometime ....
Tick data corruption sometime ....sometime they fix it ...sometime they don't
TDV has problems with Firewall and Antivirus ...they often ask to stop both ...
I have not used their Excel Data plugin

give them a try and see how it works for you ...
 

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