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SBI's Apr-Nov earning from this fine was over 50% of its net profit in H1

1.3 bn of SBI's 4.2 bn savings bank accounts are under the Jan Dhan Yojana or basic savings bank deposits accounts - both of which are exempt from penalty for not maintaining average balance
BS Web Team | New Delhi Last Updated at January 2, 2018 12:06 IST

State Bank of India, the country’s largest lender, made a whopping Rs 17.7 billion in charges levied on customers failing to maintain their minimum monthly average balance during the April-November 2017 period, according to media reports quoting finance ministry data.

Annual growth in the bank’s revenue on this count cannot be arrived at as SBI had collected no money from customers for not maintaining average balance during the comparable period in 2016. However, the Rs 17.7 billion figure is bigger than the bank’s net profit of Rs 15.82 billion in the July-September quarter and almost half the Rs 35.86 billion it earned in the first half of the financial year (April-September 2017).

According to an Indian Express report, 1.3 billion of SBI’s 4.2 billion savings bank accounts are those under the Pradhan Mantri Jan Dhan Yojana or basic savings bank deposits accounts – both of which are exempt from penalty for not maintaining average balance. So, these charges would have been levied on defaulting accountholders among the remaining 2.9 billion.

On Monday, the first day of the new calendar year, SBI had surprised its customers by announcing a 30-basis-point reduction in benchmark prime lending rates (BPLR) with effect from the same day.

The bank had said it would also extend its ongoing waiver on home loan processing fee until March 31 for new customers and for those switching their loans from other banks to SBI.

SBI Managing Director (retail and digital banking) P K Gupta had said the move would benefit about 8 million customers.

The revised base rate for the bank is now 8.65 per cent, while the BPLR is 13.40 per cent. The base rate is the minimum rate that a bank can offer to its customers.

“The reduction in the base rate is a New Year gift to the bank's loyal customers, as a large number of consumers who have their loans linked to the base rate will benefit. This reduction is part of the bank's efforts to ensure transmission of the reduction in policy rates of the recent past,” Gupta had said.
 
http://www.business-standard.com/ar...0-of-its-net-profit-in-h1-118010200190_1.html

SBI's Apr-Nov earning from this fine was over 50% of its net profit in H1

1.3 bn of SBI's 4.2 bn savings bank accounts are under the Jan Dhan Yojana or basic savings bank deposits accounts - both of which are exempt from penalty for not maintaining average balance
BS Web Team | New Delhi Last Updated at January 2, 2018 12:06 IST

State Bank of India, the country’s largest lender, made a whopping Rs 17.7 billion in charges levied on customers failing to maintain their minimum monthly average balance during the April-November 2017 period, according to media reports quoting finance ministry data.

Annual growth in the bank’s revenue on this count cannot be arrived at as SBI had collected no money from customers for not maintaining average balance during the comparable period in 2016. However, the Rs 17.7 billion figure is bigger than the bank’s net profit of Rs 15.82 billion in the July-September quarter and almost half the Rs 35.86 billion it earned in the first half of the financial year (April-September 2017).

According to an Indian Express report, 1.3 billion of SBI’s 4.2 billion savings bank accounts are those under the Pradhan Mantri Jan Dhan Yojana or basic savings bank deposits accounts – both of which are exempt from penalty for not maintaining average balance. So, these charges would have been levied on defaulting accountholders among the remaining 2.9 billion.

On Monday, the first day of the new calendar year, SBI had surprised its customers by announcing a 30-basis-point reduction in benchmark prime lending rates (BPLR) with effect from the same day.

The bank had said it would also extend its ongoing waiver on home loan processing fee until March 31 for new customers and for those switching their loans from other banks to SBI.

SBI Managing Director (retail and digital banking) P K Gupta had said the move would benefit about 8 million customers.

The revised base rate for the bank is now 8.65 per cent, while the BPLR is 13.40 per cent. The base rate is the minimum rate that a bank can offer to its customers.

“The reduction in the base rate is a New Year gift to the bank's loyal customers, as a large number of consumers who have their loans linked to the base rate will benefit. This reduction is part of the bank's efforts to ensure transmission of the reduction in policy rates of the recent past,” Gupta had said.
90% of that "fine/penalties income" is mere book entries & irrecovearable for the obvious reason, so more "Bad debts", more drama.
Instead dey should recognise these incomes only when those fined A/cs' Balances are replenished and can cover the fines/penalties.
 
90% of that "fine/penalties income" is mere book entries & irrecovearable for the obvious reason, so more "Bad debts", more drama.
Instead dey should recognise these incomes only when those fined A/cs' Balances are replenished and can cover the fines/penalties.
Do you work in a bank ?
 
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...utm_referrer=https://t.co/KLV1Qdpb6y&from=mdr

Surge in bond yields to widen losses ofPSBs, loss estimated at Rs 15,500 crore: ICRA

The recent surge in bond yields is expected to result in MTM losses on the Available for Sale.
Mumbai: The surge on yield on 10‐Year Government Security ﴾G‐sec﴿ by 67 bps during the quarter ended December may lead to mark‐to‐market losses for banks on their investment portfolios, says rating agency ICRABSE 1.22 %. With reduced cushion to absorb interest rate movements, the recent surge in bond yields is expected to result in MTM losses on the Available for Sale ﴾AFS﴿ portion of investment portfolio of banks.

The MTM loss for the entire banking sector is estimated at Rs. 15,500 crore during the quarter, the ICRA report said "As on September 30, 2017, Public Sector Banks ﴾PSBs﴿ had a larger share of AFS book in their total investment portfolio with longer duration in relation to Private Sector Banks ﴾PVBs﴿;accordingly, PSBs are likely to account for 80% share of overall MTM losses as per our estimates," said Karthik Srinivasan, Group Head, Financial Sector Ratings, ICRA. "With losses before tax of Rs. 5,624 crore during H1FY2018,

MTM losses will further add to losses and erode capital ratios for PSBs. In contrast, PVBs are relatively better placed to absorb the MTM losses with profit before tax of Rs. 30,994 crore during H1FY2018. With unexpected surge in yields on consequent increase in losses, the GoI may need to increase the capital it intends to frontload into the PSBs by by recapitalisation bonds."

A steady decline in bond‐yields had resulted in windfall profits for the banking sector, especially during the last six quarters ﴾Q4FY2016 ‐ Q2FY2018﴿, whereby the banks made a treasury gains of approximately Rs. 1 lakh crore, which was much higher than the total profit before tax ﴾PBT﴿ of Rs. 51,105 crore for the entire banking sector during this period. While a part of the treasury gains were also acounted by divestments of non‐core investments by banks given the profitability pressures, however the same is estimated to be less than Rs. 20,000 crore in overall treasury gains, reflecting a large share of gains coming from their bond portfolios. Because of larger share of excess G‐sec holdings, a larger share of the treasury gains was also accounted by PSBs, which cumulatively accounted for treasury gains of Rs. 74,300 crore during the above mentioned period. However, despite these sizeable treasury gains, PSBs reported losses before tax of Rs. 48,020 crore during the said period. As banks gradually booked profits on their investment portfolios, their yield on their investment portfolios declined to 7.0% during Q2FY2018 vs 7.9% during Q4FY2016, thereby reducing the cushion to absorb the losses ﴾MTM﴿ against adverse interest rate movements.
 
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/3Cx...ket-has-a-2018-message-for-Narendra-Modi.html

India’s bond market has a 2018 message for Narendra Modi
One year ago, India’s bond market was riding a wave of unprecedented liquidity. Now it’s mired in all kinds of doubts, ending 2017 weaker than Chinese sovereign debt
Last Published: Tue, Jan 02 2018. 02 19 PM IST

One year ago, India’s bond market was riding a wave of unprecedented liquidity. Now it’s mired in all kinds of doubts, ending 2017 weaker than Chinese sovereign debt when the opposite outcome would have been more natural. After all, India saw a ratings upgrade by Moody’s Investors Service during the year, while China was downgraded.

The message for Prime Minister Narendra Modi is clear: in 2018, go easy on the fiscal sauce.

A near-4% yield on 10-year notes from the People’s Republic of China is partly a result of President Xi Jinping’s deleveraging campaign, and partly a reflection of the strengthening Chinese economy (a purchasing managers’ index released Tuesday showed the fastest expansion last month since August.)




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Aided by exports, India’s manufacturing economy is also on the mend. But it’s still very early in the cycle. Modi would like a more solid investment and jobs recovery scorecard before next year’s general elections. So India’s 10-year yield hitting 7.4% last week—a full percentage point increase from late July—isn’t a feature. It’s a bug.



What’s behind it? One overhang for the bond market is GST. The transition to a goods and services tax hasn’t been easy anywhere. But the version of a value added tax that New Delhi introduced in July—with five rates and constant tinkering with bands and deadlines—has been a disaster. Revenue collection is sliding after the government was forced to shift a variety of consumer goods to a lower GST bracket; whether consumption will revive as a result of those tax cuts is still uncertain.

Meanwhile, time is running out: the fiscal deficit in the first eight months of the financial year that ends in March is already at 112% of the full-year goal. When the government announced last week that it would borrow an additional Rs50,000 crore through 31 March, investors lost their nerve. The Reserve Bank of India (RBI), which manages New Delhi’s debt sales, had to trim a planned auction on Friday to help banks contain their mark-to-market losses for the year.




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Those losses are important because India’s banks, hobbled by $207 billion in bad loans, are the biggest holders of government bonds. Amid anaemic demand for new bank loans, the public sector banks need to make whatever profit they can on their bond portfolios. But that’s becoming impossible.

As Bloomberg Intelligence economist Abhishek Gupta has noted, Indian banks’ extra inventory of government bonds—beyond what RBI requires them to hold—is approaching $200 billion. That’s almost as high as in December 2016, when households were forced to park their savings with banks after Modi banned 86% of the country’s cash in circulation.



Since the lenders must mark to market their excess holdings of government securities, they have good reason to dump them in a rising interest-rate environment. Throw in an additional layer of bonds to meet liquidity coverage norms under Basel III, and the lenders may still have a surplus of about $41 billion.

The saving grace is the US 10-year bond yield. Economists’ surveys show a consensus expectation for this to stay below 3% by the end of 2018, lower than where it was in 2013 when India (together with Indonesia, South Africa, Brazil and Turkey) got whacked by capital outflows. India must hope its GST clouds part before rising US interest rates again become ominous.

But one thing is clear: there’s no room now for finance minister Arun Jaitley to make his last budget before the election a populist one. Let 2017 be a cautionary tale. If a dream year for Indian bonds could sour so badly, there’s no telling what nightmares 2018 may have in store. Bloomberg Gadfly

First Published: Tue, Jan 02 2018. 12 35 PM IST
 
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Rain Industries 6% up ...and so is Graphite ...

ST
Da,

For a stock in continuous uptrend ........

is it wise strategy to do a SIP style additions at every rise .... ?

How would you play such stocks .... ?
 
Da,

For a stock in continuous uptrend ........

is it wise strategy to do a SIP style additions at every rise .... ?

How would you play such stocks .... ?
SIP type additions only if you have clear visibility of earnings growth and quality of management for next 2-3 years atleast.

I buy 50 % in the initial trade and then 2 adds when the initial position is out of woods.

Smart_trade
 

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