Discount Broker Comparison

augubhai

Well-Known Member
Hi people,

How do you rate Fyers on the following parameters:

1. Software uptime
2. Customer support
3. Ease of use - How quickly can we place/modify orders?

I was thinking of opening an account with them, but have seen some negative reviews about software glitches and customer support.

I am NOT looking for API, charts, or any extra features. I am just looking for a reliable software that will let me place and manage my day trading positions, reliably and quickly.
 

TracerBullet

Well-Known Member
Hi people,

How do you rate Fyers on the following parameters:

1. Software uptime
2. Customer support
3. Ease of use - How quickly can we place/modify orders?

I was thinking of opening an account with them, but have seen some negative reviews about software glitches and customer support.

I am NOT looking for API, charts, or any extra features. I am just looking for a reliable software that will let me place and manage my day trading positions, reliably and quickly.
I use apis only, but if we assume that uptime for api is same as uptime for Web, here is my experience so far ( trading for a little less than a year )

1) Generally works fine, i am happy with them. There were a few days some months ago when they had issues 2-3 times close to each other, i got lucky and was not affected by either not having trades at the time or not being in the subset of traders who were affected. Since then though they have been stable for me. So far, i have missed 1 trade due to around 5m delay from api out of many hundred trades with them.

Quite a few times they would move automatic square off to 1500, usually i did not get warning in time and they would still deduct auto square off charges. Charges are small, but 15m less can lead to missed profit. Also their square off time is 1515 vs 1520 in Zerodha which i prefer.

2) CS - ok, i have not dealt with them much, but most queries were resolved in time. But there is one ticket which they never closed and never gave me an answer inspite of asking multiple times, in forum too. Not sure why, it was related to my quarterly settlement which happened inspite of me buying and selling liquid bees overnight as per their own reply to a previous ticket. Annoying but anyway ..

3) I dont use GUI much, but it seems good. For many weeks though they had a bug : after keeping fyers open for some time it would hang with full cpu usage. Bad, but it seems to have been solved recently, i have not faced it for some time. But then again i usually close my browser so you might want to double check that.

4) Finally, my biggest problem with Fyers, not their fault, is that they are small. We don't know how much profit they make and how much of a hit they can take if a black swan event hits their traders leading to large defaults.

We have to keep more money with brokers now. So i prefer Zerodha to them - they are very very profitable and have large number of investors and so trading related defaults, if they happen, can be contained. Their api is also very nice. I trade with both in order to manage small outages, but will keep capital with Fyers fixed. May be that will change once Fyers starts making crores of profit, or i might shift to a larger broker like angel broking if its feasible. I tried that with 5p but they were terrible.

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Were you not trading with Upstox ? Are you facing any issue with them ?
 
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augubhai

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Were you not trading with Upstox ? Are you facing any issue with them ?
Fed up with Upstox. I have been trading with them for years now. But things changed after the major downtime they had on Feb 1, Budget Day.

Since then, there have been multiple issues with them.
1. They stopped NestTrader. Their app and web versions are not good enough for my trading.
2. Frequent downtimes.
3. Square off times is now 3:00 PM. Sometimes, after auto-square-off kicks in, the position is left hanging for even 10 minutes. (This used to happen in March)
4. They disabled my commodities account. But even after multiple requests have not enabled it. Nobody in their support team seems to know what is to be done.
5. Their customer support is useless, but that has been so for years.
6. Sometimes, intraday trading profits are not credited even on the next working day. So, the previous day's profits will be credited in the ledger, but will not be available for trading.

They have got lots of investments. The Feb 1 issue definitely spooked them, and they did a lot of changes. Maybe they will improve, but at the moment I am dissatisfied. Maybe they are getting too many new customers after their ad campaigns, and are having trouble handling them all.
 

TracerBullet

Well-Known Member
Fed up with Upstox. I have been trading with them for years now. But things changed after the major downtime they had on Feb 1, Budget Day.

Since then, there have been multiple issues with them.
1. They stopped NestTrader. Their app and web versions are not good enough for my trading.
2. Frequent downtimes.
3. Square off times is now 3:00 PM. Sometimes, after auto-square-off kicks in, the position is left hanging for even 10 minutes. (This used to happen in March)
4. They disabled my commodities account. But even after multiple requests have not enabled it. Nobody in their support team seems to know what is to be done.
5. Their customer support is useless, but that has been so for years.
6. Sometimes, intraday trading profits are not credited even on the next working day. So, the previous day's profits will be credited in the ledger, but will not be available for trading.

They have got lots of investments. The Feb 1 issue definitely spooked them, and they did a lot of changes. Maybe they will improve, but at the moment I am dissatisfied. Maybe they are getting too many new customers after their ad campaigns, and are having trouble handling them all.
3) With Fyers, they send market orders within 1-2 mins of cancel, but anyway i prefer to exit before autosquare off to avoid that delay.
6) Intraday profits are available only once settled. So we need to wait for T+2 with stocks. T+1 in Futures i think.
 
Currently trading with the broker finvasia. Starting from their 5 min account opening processes till their instant live chat facilities at trading hours, they give satisfactory results at all points. To help the traders save a lot while trading, they have a lot of features like
Zero brokerage

Zero account set up charges

Zero clearing charges

Zero charges for call and trade facilities

Behind these money benefits, they have powerful trading tools like
Shoonya, a powerful multi asset and multi device compatible trading platform

Fox trader, automated trade system with advanced chartings, backtesting, etc…

API systems to upload and run their own algos, strategies, etc..

As an overall look towards them, they are a good stockbroker to try.
 

kharikumaar

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Anyone wanting to trade with Angel broking be very very careful. I recently had wrongful trades taking place in my account. my delivery positions they covered as intraday and when checking with them they had the nerve to say that i had converted it to intraday and even sent me a fudged record to justify it. There was another instance earlier and they had justified tht also. I have now shifted to another broker and will not be trusting them again
 

bpr

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Anyone wanting to trade with Angel broking be very very careful. I recently had wrongful trades taking place in my account. my delivery positions they covered as intraday and when checking with them they had the nerve to say that i had converted it to intraday and even sent me a fudged record to justify it. There was another instance earlier and they had justified tht also. I have now shifted to another broker and will not be trusting them again
what kind of fudged record they sent ?