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MSN1979

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So in a way MCX by closing at 5 :00 pm saved lots of traders from large losses....and traders keep cursing MCX....:)

not good for those who follow trend, they might have saved big people. People like us could not short due to 5% circuit rule which i feel is extremely stupd, secondly trend traders could do nothing, since most of move comes after 5, I dont know about others after 5 o clock news. I stopped trading personally
 
Stock market is waiting for FM's fiscal package to be announced.....
 
Bhai log, FPI business is moving towards Singapore, because here they are being charged 30-40 % taxes including STT etc. which could be saved if trade done in Singapore.

I am confused about the last para of this article, which says -

The actual trading volumes of Indian derivatives offshore could be much higher than what the SGX data shows, say market experts. There are several over the counter (OTC) contracts available with Indian securities as underlying. These contracts are not traded over any exchange and are managed by the large foreign institutional brokerages.

What are these OTC contracts, does any one have any information or links about them ?

Thanks and regards

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...hift-to-sgx/articleshow/75252146.cms?from=mdr

Sebi curbs on derivatives send FPIs overseas; SGX trades jump 150%



Mumbai: The recent curbs on derivative trading imposed by the Securities and Exchange Board of India to ease wild swings in the market has prompted foreign funds to move their equity derivatives bets from Mumbai to Singapore. Total number of Nifty futures contracts traded on the Singapore Exchange have jumped over 250% in March, while derivatives turnover dropped by over a quarter on the NSE during the month after the capital market regulator on March 20 brought in curbs such as restrictions on big trades including short-selling and enhanced margins. Brokers said lower costs and controls have pushed several Foreign Portfolio Investors to Singapore Exchange (SGX) where Indian derivatives are traded.
While the trading volumes in SGX Nifty, the most popular offshore product, have surged during March, data compiled by ET showed volumes in SGX Bank Nifty and SGX single stock futures too have doubled.
In March, over 30 lakh Nifty contracts traded on SGX compared to an average of 12 lakh contracts a month for the last one year. Also, the trading volume in March is 50% higher than February when 20 lakh contracts of Nifty traded. At NSE, the average daily turnover in derivatives market during April fell 34% compared to one-year averages while during March the fall was 24%.
Brokers said there is little incentive for foreign funds to do their F&O trades in India. The country already imposes 30-40% capital gains tax on derivatives along with other taxes including STT and stamp duty. Trades done on SGX aren’t subject to these taxes. FPIs are a key part of Indian F&O market since they contribute to about 20% of the total trading volumes.
“Whenever there is a big market event, the market volumes surge. However, in the current scenario volumes are declining in Indian F&O markets even as we are in middle of a Black Swan event,” said the head of a custodian business of a leading European bank. “Maybe it is a conscious effort by Indian regulators to lower volumes. However, the problem is when you lower the volumes by imposing curbs, it impacts liquidity and price discovery of a market,”
The shift in trading activity by FPIs from NSE to Singapore had led to Indian exchanges announcing in February 2018 that they would stop providing market data to foreign bourses by August 2018 as part of an attempt to prevent more of the domestic equity derivatives market from going offshore. After a legal battle for over a year, both exchanges reached an agreement that will result in NSE's India-related products offered on SGX to be executed in the Gujarat International Financial Services Centre, or GIFT City.
Some brokers expect the restrictions to be extended beyond April 22—which is scheduled to be the last day of the curbs.
”Sebi has put in place certain additional risk management measures to counter any increase in market volatility,” said Sriram Krishnan, managing director, Deutsche Bank. “As and when stability returns, we can expect Sebi to go back to the normal framework and trading volumes onshore to recover,”
The actual trading volumes of Indian derivatives offshore could be much higher than what the SGX data shows, say market experts. There are several over the counter (OTC) contracts available with Indian securities as underlying. These contracts are not traded over any exchange and are managed by the large foreign institutional brokerages.
 
OTC contracts or Over The Counter contracts are not exchange traded...they are forward contracts traded between two parties and hence they dont get reflected in exchange turnover...OTC contracts have their own risks......many tailormade contracts are OTC contracts...
 
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mohan.sic

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Explainer: Why Brent oil won't follow U.S. WTI futures below zero


Brent oil futures are set for extreme volatility when the front-month June contract expires next week, but they will avoid the historic plunge below zero that U.S. peer WTI has suffered, traders and analysts said.

West Texas Intermediate futures turned negative for the first time ever on Monday, touching a low of minus $40.32 a barrel before closing at minus $37.63 a barrel.

The frenzied selling was driven by a lack of storage space to hold a glut of crude, meaning traders were willing to pay buyers to take oil off their hands.

The surplus is a result of lockdowns to try to contain the coronavirus pandemic that have wiped out nearly a third of the world’s daily oil demand.

For Brent, the global benchmark, the impact is likely to be less because of differences in how the contract is settled.

While WTI plummeted below zero, Europe’s Brent oil futures stayed around the mid-$20s a barrel. On Tuesday, Brent was around $20 a barrel.


WHAT IS CONTRACT EXPIRY?

An oil futures contract expires once a month. Market participants either close positions, making or losing money depending on when they bought in, or they roll their interest into the following month.


WTI contracts are settled with physical barrels, while Brent is settled with cash.

WTI expires late on Tuesday and Brent will expire on April 30.

WHAT HAPPENS AT EXPIRY?

When the WTI contract expires, a quantity of oil that previously existed only on paper is converted into physical barrels that need to be used or else stored at a major U.S. storage site tied to the contract at Cushing, Oklahoma.

On expiry day, a market participant in WTI has three choices:

1) Let the contract expire and take delivery of physical oil;

2) Reverse out, or sell the current month’s contract to somebody else;

3) Roll over, or close the current contract by buying one for the following month.

WHY PAY SOMEONE TO TAKE YOUR OIL?

Many market participants in futures are not physical traders and cannot handle cargoes, which has become a major issue as oil infrastructure globally is full to the brim because of demand destruction.

“Essentially, with 108 million barrels worth of contract positions still not closed by the traders in the market, the buyers were rushing for the door to avoid taking physical delivery of crude,” Rystad said in a note, referring to Monday’s price slide ahead of Tuesday’s contract expiry.

When WTI hit minus $40 a barrel, anyone rolling over at that point would have lost about $60 a barrel - the initial May value at around $20 and paying someone $40 to take it.

IS BRENT ALSO SET FOR DEEPER FALLS?

Brent contracts are settled in cash so there is no risk of going negative but they could drop significantly.

“Nobody will pay you to take cash but they will pay you to take the oil they cannot handle,” said one senior industry source, asking not to be named. “Brent is an indicator for sentiment rather than a physical metric.”

Brent future contract holders are concerned about the disconnect with the physical market.

For about a month, there has been a record gap between futures and the underlying physical Dated Brent benchmark, used to trade more than half the world’s physical crude cargoes.

Dated Brent represents the baseline price that refineries and other physical buyers are willing to pay. Individual crude grades are then priced at differentials to that benchmark.

Dated Brent is typically worth up to $2 more or less than the futures price but against the backdrop of so much oversupply it widened last week to more than $10 a barrel. The extent of the gap implies a downward correction is inevitable.

“We are not talking about Brent futures replicating WTI and falling into negative territory, as unlike WTI, Brent is cash-settled, while seaborne grades have more storage outlets, but a closer alignment with physical prices is clearly a possibility,” consultancy JBC Energy said in a note.

https://in.reuters.com/article/glob...llow-u-s-wti-futures-below-zero-idINKCN2232BA

so brent futures will not fall below zero as they are only cash settled.
whereas wti futures trading has obligation of physical del.

just few days back when someone posted 2 images of wti and brent futures with pricing diveregence i asked the reason why this happens and someone told some US- china reasons.....so that it not the case....

This divergence was forming from past few days and hit the peaks on wti expiry day. We do not know these reasoning at that point.
 
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You mean to say Dabba Trading?
No not dabba trading ...these are trades between two institutions or two parties and they are forward trades which are banned in India.The contracts traded are non standard and tailormade to suit both the parties.
 

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