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Even a stimulus package can't help the economy much: BofAML


The financial conditions have deteriorated so badly despite the four repo rate cuts and there is a need for a fiscal stimulus, which though may not yield much results due to the fiscal constraints, warns an American brokerage report.
The warnings come amid the gloomy news on the growth front, with GDP expansion sliding to a 5-year-low of 5.8 percent in March and expected to fall further in June quarter. The numbers will be announced next week. Falling stocks, an overvalued rupee and higher volumes in the US dollar-rupee market are evident of the tightening financial conditions, Bank of America Merrill Lynch said in a report on August 22.

"We believe the economy warrants a significant fiscal stimulus at this stage which does not result in higher borrowing costs," the report said, but was quick to warn that it may yield the desired results due to the fiscal constraints of the government.

"What India needs is a fiscal boost funded by offshore borrowings. But a fiscal stimulus package is unlikely to be a game-changer due to fiscal constraints," it said.
The stimulus package will have to be announced alongside a USD-bond sale so as to not disrupt local currency bonds, it added.

The report said "most" of the tightening of financial conditions are due to the weakness in the equities markets, where the markets have plunged over 10 percent since June, which it attributed to "the lack of any fiscal stimulus in the budget has been one of the big reasons for this sell off."
The brokerage lamented that it was "very strange" to observe government is sticking to fiscal consolidation in FY20 in "when the backdrop is clearly deteriorating". Tapping into global savings which are in massive search for higher yields can be one of the ways of introducing the fiscal stimulus, it added.

The RBI has reduced its key rates by a cumulative 1.10 percentage points in four successive rate cuts since February and has also changed the direction of policy to be more accommodative.
It can be noted that the government had announced plans for a sovereign bond sale in overseas market, though many are not enthused with the plan.

Those against the move included former RBI governors, economists and other analysts, who point out that the country had not resorted to such a move even in the aftermath of the 1991 crisis. According to some media reports, the government is planning to raise up to $10 billion in October. Policymakers will also have to somehow inject more liquidity into the troubled non-banking lenders and douse any concerns around them, the report added.
Thinking from another angle, what govts do is bad trade; investing in something which gives very little in return (taxes in my view, but possibility of inviting foreign fund also is there), and doing that with borrowed money is like trading a bad strategy with loan money... This could be a global phenomenon.

Loans worth more than US$ 96,560 million for 50 projects have been approved for India from world bank.
 
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lemondew

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Good point if one has a good strategy one can trade on borrowed money. Our country is also running projects on borrowed money.

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Not advocating overleveraging. But a person with good strategy will know how much he is leveraging and his risk of ruin very well. life on a sound system should be smooth.

Thinking from another angle, what govts do is bad trade; investing in something which gives very little in return (taxes in my view, but possibility of inviting foreign fund also is there), and doing that with borrowed money is like trading a bad strategy with loan money... This could be a global phenomenon.

Loans worth more than US$ 96,560 million for 50 projects have been approved for India from world bank.
 
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Riskyman

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Thinking from another angle, what govts do is bad trade; investing in something which gives very little in return (taxes in my view, but possibility of inviting foreign fund also is there), and doing that with borrowed money is like trading a bad strategy with loan money... This could be a global phenomenon.

Loans worth more than US$ 96,560 million for 50 projects have been approved for India from world bank.
Our govt is not generating enough revenues by way of taxes etc to invest in project so youth can get employed. If we have to keep growing at 7%, we need people to earn and spend money.
What the govt generates also goes for welfare of the poorest also i.e fertilizer subsidy, food grain subsidy, fuel subsidy etc etc. What is left is not sufficient to fund big projects and create employment on a bi scale. Under the circumstances, how does the govt create employment? Infrastructure is one of the biggest job creators. So it makes sense to invest in large projects that will employ a lot of people in one go. But we dont have the money for these projects. Raising money via debt i.e internal as well as dollar denominated etc is the only way. Not to forget that the world is going through a period of low interest. If our government is smart it can take advantage of this low interest rate scenario and raise a ton of money. Whether good or bad depends totally on the quantum of funds being raised. Only thing is that it can lead to a vicious cycle like we see in many other countries.
Lets see what our smart people in the gormint do.
 
Good point if one has a good strategy one can trade on borrowed money. Our country is also running projects on borrowed money.

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Not advocating overleveraging. But a person with good strategy will know how much he is leveraging and his risk of ruin very well. life on a sound system should be smooth.
I would never support taking loan for trading, no matter how much killing strategy you think you have... Market behaves differently at different times, it's multidimensional and we'd never realize what was the exact factor/reason.. So play safe always.. I'd advise to save some "not-important, cast-aside" cash to use in trading account (if you are not that luxurious person -- a large part of the traders reading these chats here are not i guess). I could only say this much, building up and scaling up the account is a matter of experience. So if you can't afford it, don't take loan for trading by watching some youtube videos. Even great investors lose big time..
 
Our govt is not generating enough revenues by way of taxes etc to invest in project so youth can get employed. If we have to keep growing at 7%, we need people to earn and spend money.
What the govt generates also goes for welfare of the poorest also i.e fertilizer subsidy, food grain subsidy, fuel subsidy etc etc. What is left is not sufficient to fund big projects and create employment on a bi scale. Under the circumstances, how does the govt create employment? Infrastructure is one of the biggest job creators. So it makes sense to invest in large projects that will employ a lot of people in one go. But we dont have the money for these projects. Raising money via debt i.e internal as well as dollar denominated etc is the only way. Not to forget that the world is going through a period of low interest. If our government is smart it can take advantage of this low interest rate scenario and raise a ton of money. Whether good or bad depends totally on the quantum of funds being raised. Only thing is that it can lead to a vicious cycle like we see in many other countries.
Lets see what our smart people in the gormint do.
What we call "sarkari naukari" is actually the job of building the nation; giving approval/loans for right kind of business for development of country... If our finance intelligence departments have been doing their duties right, we could have saved crores of money from vanishing and use it to pay (EMI :D )
 

Riskyman

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What we call "sarkari naukari" is actually the job of building the nation; giving approval/loans for right kind of business for development of country... If our finance intelligence departments have been doing their duties right, we could have saved crores of money from vanishing and use it to pay (EMI :D )
We have too many problems in our country. No pointing blaming all and sundry. When you think you can sometimes even wonder who all will the govt help. Railways?psu banks?Air india? other psu companies? Closing them/privatization is a good idea but employees will lose jobs. Then we will say what is the govt doing when so many thousands are losing jobs. Poor country we are with limited resources. kis kis ko khush karega bhai!!:)
 
We have too many problems in our country. No pointing blaming all and sundry. When you think you can sometimes even wonder who all will the govt help. Railways?psu banks?Air india? other psu companies? Closing them/privatization is a good idea but employees will lose jobs. Then we will say what is the govt doing when so many thousands are losing jobs. Poor country we are with limited resources. kis kis ko khush karega bhai!!:)
Why don't they look from a trading point of view? R:R ratio and money management? :) I know easier said than done, but still... One previous FM arrested for malpractice and what about the other leaders, past or present... In the long run, we all would have to suffer a cycle downtrend because of all these practices, like you said earlier...
 

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