20% ROI per month on captial above 1 Cr possible?

Hello

After Rajesh's inputs and points to Al Brooks
Downloaded a summary presentation Trading the Open

Link: https://www.brookstradingcourse.com...ks-TradersEXPO-Las-Vegas-Trading-The-Open.pdf

Very interesting observation / analysis is presented about opening bar / candle

20% of the times we get a High or Low on first Bar, 50% of the times its within first 30/45 minutes and 70% of the time within first 90 minutes

But why believe in Al Brooks when we can test for our self :)


Code:
// Scanner for Day Hi Lo Bar Number
H1 = TimeFrameGetPrice("H",inDaily,0);
L1 = TimeFrameGetPrice("L",inDaily,0);

ND = Day() != Ref(Day(), -1);
Bars  = BarsSince(ND) + 1;

Hi_Count = ValueWhen(H==H1,Bars);
Lo_Count = ValueWhen(L==L1,Bars);

Filter = TimeNum()>152900 AND TimeNum()<153000;

AddColumn(High,"High",1.2);
AddColumn(Low,"Low",1.2);
AddColumn(Close,"Close",1.2);
AddColumn(Hi_Count,"Hi Bar No",1.0);
AddColumn(Lo_Count,"Lo Bar No",1.0);

Thanks to everyone participating on this thread :up:

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niftytaurus

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Trading Open, is bit complex and complete system in itself, just summarizing the thought process I follow to trade Open, and this is system neutral, in respective on trading style or system on follow. As few of you aware my trading style is entirely based on Al Brooks, and what I trade and sharing below are based on that.
In Open there are primarily three kind of setup & every setup is based on below three Parameter, and these parameters are universal in respective of the trading style one follow.
First is the Context. This is supreme, unless we read the context right, we can’t trade right. First thing here is Directional Correctness, followed by Market structure and then the setup.
Second is Location, the trade has to be at some obvious support either at Trend Line or Ema, or whatever way one can define S/R . Advantages of good Location we mostly get Low risk Setup, and most bigger swing move comes from these Location itself. so Location is the key for Setup and Stop.
And third one is strong Signal bar, Advantage of strong signal bar, even if setups fail it gives ample time to scratch. I use simple rule here, if the setup I enter on strong signal bar and entry bar is weak, I just look to bail, as if my read is right then it should be strong entry bar, if anything else means I am wrong with my read and if wrong then no point to wait for stop to hit. Strong signal bars enhance the Probability.
With experience quality of signal bar can be bit laxed provided overall context & Location in place.
So Once I read the context Right, and define Proper Location & Signal bar, following Setups usually I trade.
First one is First pullback(1Pb) after trend, this is best setup, There too first Deep Pullback, ( first 2-3 Leg Pullback after Trend), having around more than 70% probability. So if one need to focus & master then this is The SETUP. in fact, this one setup if one master one doesn’t need any other thing…more than enough for living. Great Math in terms of Probability & R:R
Second one is First Reversal, or Opening Reversal : (1 Rev) A strong reversal from High, Low or Previous close, or reversal from weak trend move in the Open, easy to read and trade again…. And if works goes big.
Point to note here, in Open be ready for Multiple reversals as how strong the move may appear there are more than 50% of Probability of at least 1-2 Reversals. Second Important point for Reversals, once you read that market is reversed, then look for pullback setups in the new direction only, as Pullbacks are the setups in the direction of trend.
Also, only trend can reverse, so no reversal setups in Trading Ranges.
Third one Is Failed Breakout,(Fbo) either failed break out of High-low or Swings on Trading Range days, here second failed Break out attempt will mostly be swing trade. This setup only in Trading Range Price Action.
Apart from the Setups I Guess couple of things if one follow and do religiously it should work wonder in respective of the system. First having the habit of drawing Trend Lines, and base most of the trading decision at Trendline, this itself will enhance Probability, as Trend Line to my understanding is most dynamic, easy and potent trading tool in respective of trading Style. Second counting the Legs, Either in Trend or Trading Range… Counting Legs, and anchoring trades based on it will solve dual purpose , First it will provide best setups to trade, along with work as filter to avoid many bad trades For example to avoid fresh entries or tightening the stop after 3-4 Legs in the given move.
Last the setups should to easy to read and trade in real time , as What I have experienced most big trades comes from most simple setups, and I use simple heuristic here, if any setup that needed effort to read, will not work or not go big. Best Setups mostly present itself. So just focus on couple of Pet Setups ,that should be easy to read real time, and just trade those only to start with. Idea is to have minimal moving parts or discretion, or friction real time. And once in trade, trade management should be mechanical based on the pre defined math and no discretion here, let the math works, in respective of the outcome on individual trades. Though easier said than done, but slowly mind will accept it.
I guess above mention points are central for any trading system.
Below is the Generic Market structure for Trading Open.
1. The opening bar
2. The opening range
3. Breakout and possible reversal of the opening range
4. The AM trend
5. Lunch consolidation
6. Breakout from lunch consolidation
7. The PM trend


All the Best.
Thanks a lot Rajesh Bro For such a nice & detailed write-up.Its really so generous of you to share your years of experience & knowledge with us.If we had options for hundred of likes, I would have definately clicked that.Millions of thanks for this superb stuff.Its treasure of Price action knowledge.Words are failed to express my gratitude to you.Thanks A Ton.
I have written every word of you in my notes in hard copy & trying to see Price action in new perspective.
You please share whatever you can, It would be a very helpful to me & to many traders who are trying to make PA trading mechanical especially want to remove discretion from trading.
Please keep sharing
Thanks & regards
 

niftytaurus

Well-Known Member
Hello

After Rajesh's inputs and points to Al Brooks
Downloaded a summary presentation Trading the Open

Link: https://www.brookstradingcourse.com...ks-TradersEXPO-Las-Vegas-Trading-The-Open.pdf

Very interesting observation / analysis is presented about opening bar / candle

20% of the times we get a High or Low on first Bar, 50% of the times its within first 30/45 minutes and 70% of the time within first 90 minutes

But why believe in Al Brooks when we can test for our self :)


Code:
// Scanner for Day Hi Lo Bar Number
H1 = TimeFrameGetPrice("H",inDaily,0);
L1 = TimeFrameGetPrice("L",inDaily,0);

ND = Day() != Ref(Day(), -1);
Bars  = BarsSince(ND) + 1;

Hi_Count = ValueWhen(H==H1,Bars);
Lo_Count = ValueWhen(L==L1,Bars);

Filter = TimeNum()>152900 AND TimeNum()<153000;

AddColumn(High,"High",1.2);
AddColumn(Low,"Low",1.2);
AddColumn(Close,"Close",1.2);
AddColumn(Hi_Count,"Hi Bar No",1.0);
AddColumn(Lo_Count,"Lo Bar No",1.0);

Thanks to everyone participating on this thread :up:

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Thanks a lot Happy Bro! kya study material dhondh key laye ho..I was looking for that only.Thanks a lot,It will help a lot.
I am technically illiterate , Please tell how to use that afl.What is that afl about?
Thanks a lot again
 

marimuthu13

Well-Known Member
Hello

After Rajesh's inputs and points to Al Brooks
Downloaded a summary presentation Trading the Open

Link: https://www.brookstradingcourse.com...ks-TradersEXPO-Las-Vegas-Trading-The-Open.pdf

Very interesting observation / analysis is presented about opening bar / candle

20% of the times we get a High or Low on first Bar, 50% of the times its within first 30/45 minutes and 70% of the time within first 90 minutes

But why believe in Al Brooks when we can test for our self :)


Code:
// Scanner for Day Hi Lo Bar Number
H1 = TimeFrameGetPrice("H",inDaily,0);
L1 = TimeFrameGetPrice("L",inDaily,0);

ND = Day() != Ref(Day(), -1);
Bars  = BarsSince(ND) + 1;

Hi_Count = ValueWhen(H==H1,Bars);
Lo_Count = ValueWhen(L==L1,Bars);

Filter = TimeNum()>152900 AND TimeNum()<153000;

AddColumn(High,"High",1.2);
AddColumn(Low,"Low",1.2);
AddColumn(Close,"Close",1.2);
AddColumn(Hi_Count,"Hi Bar No",1.0);
AddColumn(Lo_Count,"Lo Bar No",1.0);

Thanks to everyone participating on this thread :up:

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Rocking bro...i more often mentioned about manual testing , because while we do manual testing , we can find , some similar patterns which are keep repeating and it has hit ratio more than 80%..so you can trade only on those pattern with good risk : reward, also with very very lesser DD....

People who puts effort on manual testing may even exceed 20% ...
 

niftytaurus

Well-Known Member
Rocking bro...i more often mentioned about manual testing , because while we do manual testing , we can find , some similar patterns which are keep repeating and it has hit ratio more than 80%..so you can trade only on those pattern with good risk : reward, also with very very lesser DD....

People who puts effort on manual testing may even exceed 20% ...
Hi Marimuthu Bro Thanks for starting a nice thread.Here I can see so many traders are coming & giving their inputs, which is tradition of traderji.After a long time, I have been seeing some real trading stuff on Price action.So Most of the credit goes to you to start a constructive thread about ORB .

I second your thought.Manual testing & bar by bar replay can give us the pulse of market.I can tell from my experience , that reading of 100 books can not give as much knowledge as I get from watching some charts & spend time with charts.Even , I can tell from my experience that when you watch charts, we observe repetitive price patterns which no book will mention, it will be ones unique experience.I can not articulate in words, but its something we imbibe in our brains, when we see chart bar by bar. Its my own quote for market"HAR CANDLE KUCH KAHTI HAI" You need ears to listen it.That ears come after watching 1000s of chart.Watching charts & giving 10000s hours of screentime is the way to trading success.
I personally beileive in your thread title.We can do it.It doesnt matter if somebody thinks its impossible or not.But I beileive, if somebody follows what marimuthu bro,Rajesh bro & our other renowned traders suggest, we can definately reach the goal.But hardwork, persistence & patience is needed.I personally beileive , NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.
To Isi baat par Ek sher ho jaye" KAUN KAHTA HAI, KI AASMAAN MAIN CHED HO NAHI SAKTA, EK PATHAR TO TABEEYAT SEY UCHHALO YAARON"
Bad Translation would be- Who says, that we cant put hole on sky, just throw up a stone with full efforts, My friends"
Thanks a lot to everyone.
all the best
keep learning & keep sharing
 

niftytaurus

Well-Known Member
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Its an exploration it shows the bar number for which Day's High or Low was recorded

We can run it on your trading time frame 1/3/5 Mins etc


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Thanks a lot Happy Bro For reply.I never use Exploration options.So, I dont have any any basic knowledge about it.But I want to learn it.
Besides, I have some idea related to Price action.I want to know can we code it in afl or in excel.I dont have any knowledge about technical stuff.I dont want to interrupt flow of this thread by asking stupid basic question of amibroker ,exploration etc etc.If you can help in it, Shall I put my query & other ideas in following thread of yours
https://www.traderji.com/community/threads/simple-coding-help-no-promise.90119/

Thanks a lot
 

checkmate7

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Its an exploration it shows the bar number for which Day's High or Low was recorded

We can run it on your trading time frame 1/3/5 Mins etc


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Very useful exploration :up: it would give very informative insight to which bar has the maximum potential or first 3 bars together what is the percentage of High/Low to look upon.

Also one more information can be derived as previous day closing bars High/low how does it act as range (crb) for looking into..
 

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