GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets

Discuss GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets at the Trading Psychology within the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex; Friends, At this juncture of Stock Market Collapse or say Volatality, I felt to write ...


Go Back   Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex > METHODS & STRATEGIES > Trading Psychology
Register Blogs FAQ Chat Room Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Trading Psychology Discuss the psychological aspects of trading such as fear, greed and discipline.


Welcome to the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please read the FAQ.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Sponsored Links
  #1  
Old 20th May 2006, 03:56 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Saudi
Posts: 839
srisara is on a distinguished road
Default GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets



Friends,

At this juncture of Stock Market Collapse or say Volatality, I felt to write some of my own thoughts here.

There are 3 most factors that effect a Investor or a Trader in the Markets.
Of them are Greed, Fear and Hope. I will list a breif description of each of the below.

Greed: taking the meaning from Webster's (noun)
1. Excessive desire to acquire or possess more (esp material wealth) than one needs or deserves.
2. Reprehensible acquisitiveness; insatiable desire for wealth (personified as one of the deadly sins).
Greed always says, wait a little more so that the holding will rise and can make more Money.

Fear: taking the meaning from Webster's (verb, felt more appropriate)
1. Be afraid or feel anxious or apprehensive about a possible or probable situation or event (example: If I dont enter this stock now, I will loose on it).

Hope: from Webste'rs (verb, best suited for Markets)
1. Be optimistic; be full of hope; have hopes; "I am still hoping that all will turn out well".
2. Intend with some possibility of fulfilment; "I hope to have finished this work by tomorrow evening".

Well holding a loosing position even if it down to 20-30% ? This is Hope, that make you feel that the stock will go up and you can recover your lossess.


No one can shy away or exempted from these 3 factors when involved in the Marktes. Let it be those FII's, Fund Managers or our new breed of Tech Savvy Brokers, Professional Traders or the Retail Investors.

When this thought comes that, which breed of Traders/Investors get killed or maimed in a Steep Correction? The answer was simple, 90% of the time, the retail investors followed by Professional Traders, Mutual Funds (unless, they have a really Bad Manager like me ) and very minismal are the FII's.

Why so the retail investors get killed, when the same GFH Factor governs one and all? Well, the answer is simple, if you understand the markets very well and for the laymen it goes this way.

The simple difference between Life and Death in the Stock Market is controlling the GHF Factor. The less the GFH Factor, the more the Survival here.

That is the reason, why the FII's, Mutual Fund Manager and Professional Traders survive here more than retail investors. Since they know how to control their GFH Factors.

Variably or Invariably why others can control their GFH factor and why not the retail? at the end all are human beings! The thing is there are checks and balances in terms of methodologies to control the GFH for the Big Guys, there is no one to control a retail as he his a Boss for himself. Thats how the self destruction starts.

The 3'Ms: The 3'M ( Mind, Money & Methodologies) will help you control the GFH Factor. I am lifiting this straight way from Alexander Elder's book (Trading for A Living & Welcome Into My Trading Room).

1. Control the Mind and overcoming the emtions ( GFH Factor).
2. Protect your Money( mazimize profits and cut lossess by Proper Entry and Exit Plans)
3. using Methodologies ( Pyramiding, Reverse-Scale Techniques, Stop Losses)

Also, these days Trading Systems are available for dirt cheap. If you want to make money, be ready to spend money to get your proper setup.

Like
1. For a swing or short-term trader, a EOD Charting Software is more than Enough
2. For a Day-Trader, access to Real-Time data is crucial, even a 5 min delay can kill you.


I may have presented this not in a orderly fashion, but most of them I learnt some myself, some reading books and some from the Traderji forum.

Satya


Last edited by srisara : 21st May 2006 at 02:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20th May 2006, 05:33 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 495
joy_mitali is on a distinguished road
Default Re: GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets

Hi Satya,
Great writeup!! The GFH factor----as u have rightly stated---is the true culprit----We finally tend to blame the Market at the End of the Day---but a little bit of self retroscope can actually make a huge difference between the winners and the losers---
Also for Real time trading -----not only the access to real time data is essential----but a proper matured approach and a significant knowledge of the scrip one is going to trade in-----finally makes the ultimate difference in this virtual simulation of the Game of Life---
Regards,
joy_mitali

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20th May 2006, 06:01 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Saudi
Posts: 839
srisara is on a distinguished road
Default Re: GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets

Joy,

Thanks very much for your thoughts. Yes as you said Day-Trading involves much more factors than for a Swing or Short-Term.

This forum has given so much knowledge and it is still growing, hope it teaches many more common people in the future.

Satya

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21st May 2006, 02:21 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 547
nkpanjiyar is on a distinguished road
Default Re: GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets

Satya, what should I say? This is the finest post came from you after a long time. Great write-up. Very well explained GFH factor. Readers must assimilate this single factor and implement in life why only in trade! Am I right? Good one. Keep them coming.

cheers,
nkpanjiyar

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21st May 2006, 02:27 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Saudi
Posts: 839
srisara is on a distinguished road
Default Re: GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets

nkpanjiyar,

thanks for your compliments, just see the response only 2 replies. Looks like many are still interested to get Tips only here .

Satya

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 21st May 2006, 04:06 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: India
Posts: 1,464
pkjha30 will become famous soon enough
Default Re: GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets

Quote:
Originally Posted by srisara
nkpanjiyar,

thanks for your compliments, just see the response only 2 replies. Looks like many are still interested to get Tips only here .

Satya

Hi Satya

I was looking for tips from you (You never gave one) but got a big lecture. So I also wrote my big lecture else where inspired by you as always.
GFH and 3M concepts are just appropriate at this juncture.
Pankaj

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads for: GFH (Greed, Fear & Hope) Factors and Markets
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Factors Responsible For Downfall.... Sanjay123 Equities 0 19th May 2006 06:27 PM
No Panic No Greed rkanalyst Introductions 1 21st September 2005 06:47 PM
Hello everyone hope u r having a nice time trading. sujan_nse Introductions 0 31st August 2005 11:14 PM
Extrinsic value--dependable factors sachin divase Derivatives 2 25th February 2005 10:17 AM



All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 10:06 AM.

Indemnity, Disclaimer & Disclosure Notice:
• By visiting Traderji.com you indicate your acceptance of our Forum Rules Disclaimer & Disclosure and indemnify Traderji.com, its associates and related parties of all claims howsoever resulting from the usage of the forum.
Disclaimer: Trading or investing in stocks & commodities is a high risk activity. Any action you choose to take in the markets is totally your own responsibility. Traderji.com will not be liable for any, direct or indirect, consequential or incidental damages or loss arising out of the use of this information.
Disclosure: The information in this forum is neither an offer to sell nor solicitation to buy any of the securities mentioned herein. The writers may or may not be trading in the securities mentioned.
• All names or products mentioned are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners.
General Content Disclaimer Notice:
In light of our policy of encouraging candid, open exchanges of views and the rapid distribution of information originating from many sources, Traderji.com cannot determine the accuracy of information that may be uploaded to the forum. Opinions, advice and all other information expressed by participants in discussions are those of the author. You rely on such information at your own risk. You are urged to seek professional advice for specific, individual situations and not rely solely on advice or opinions given in the discussions. Since Traderji.com is an open and free discussion forum, any comments made by members of this forum in their posts reflect their own views and not of the owner or administrator of Traderji.com. Thus the owner/administrator indemnify themselves of all claims whatsoever and will not be liable or responsible for any members comments/views in this forum Traderji.com. If you find any objectionable or offensive posts made by members of this forum which you would like to bring to our notice for removal then please Contact Us.
 


Copyright © 2001 - 2008, Traderji.com All Rights Reserved.

Recommended Websites - www.TradersEdgeIndia.com - www.TradingPicks.com - www.HiFiVision.com - www.MasterOfTrading.com - www.NotebookTalk.com