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#21
Thank you AW10 for your valuable inputs. As far as position sizing is concerned is 1 Lot of Nifty good enuf for say 500 k of capital. I have learnt great lessons by over leveraging during the last series.
 

AW10

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#23
Thank you AW10 for your valuable inputs. As far as position sizing is concerned is 1 Lot of Nifty good enuf for say 500 k of capital. I have learnt great lessons by over leveraging during the last series.
It is not upto me to say whether it is 1lot is good enough or not ? It all depends on your risk appetite and your financial goals.
Trade size is determined in following way. Everything revolves around risk.. because that's what u can consider. Basic idea is that the trader takes calculated risk and stays in business for long enough.
for example lets take Sample acct size = 100000 Rs.

1) What is the amount that you want to risk on each trade (say 2% of ur acct size) = 2000 rs.
2) What is your entry point and stop price difference.. that is yr initial risk (say entry 4525, stop at 4500 so 25 points risk). So the risk on 1 NF lot = 25*50 = 750 Rs.,
So one really wants to follow the rule then one can buy 2 lot within your risk limit. With 3 contract, it goes beyond your risk limit so better to avoid it.

If you look at above calculation, then the leverage given by broker is not constraint here. There may give u huge limit, but if the trade goes against you then they will simply close the account and
u have pay the real cash to settle it.
So it is always the real cash account size that comes in picture here.

Then what is the use of leverage - it helps when u have a great trade where ur stop is say 5 points away i.e. risk = 5*50 = 250 rs per contract. So you can buy 8 contracts and still be within your 2% limit .
If there is not enough leverage then probably you many not be able to take 8 contracts.

Hope above explanation is clear enough and helps you.

Happy Trading
 

AW10

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#24
Trade update, 29-May-09:

Sold 2 Lots, 4700 June Nifty calls @ 94
Premium Credit= +9193
Premium Today = -11700
Rege, Do you have any stop for this trade ?
In terms of premium level and In terms of Nifty spot level. IMO, you are taking contrarian position (selling call is bearish strategy, when mkt is going up). In such case, risk mgmt is lot more important.

Happy Trading
 
#25
Rege, Do you have any stop for this trade ?
In terms of premium level and In terms of Nifty spot level. IMO, you are taking contrarian position (selling call is bearish strategy, when mkt is going up). In such case, risk mgmt is lot more important.

Happy Trading
Yes, In terms of premium level, stop is @ 194. About 1% of acct size. Thanks for all your inputs.
 
#26
8-Jun-2009 - Nifty=4429

Open Trades Jun 09:
Nifty 4700 2 Calls Short @ 94 - Current 53.75

Closed Trades Jun 09:
Got in and got out today
Long Tisco 400 Put @ 10 - Took profit@ 20

U P&L Jun Derivatives = +4,900
R P&L Jun Derivatives = +15,038

U P&L Stocks = +13,323
R P&L Stocks = +134,428

P&L LTD = -577,596
P&L YTD = +5,283

As planned, bought tisco 400 Put @ 10. My limit sell order got triggered at 20 (day high). Per my analysis I should have held on to this one as it may touch 30 because volatility is on its way up.

Have 2 lots of 4700 short calls open with a stop at 150 now.
 
#28
11-Jun-2009 -> Nifty=4637

Open Trades Jun 09:
Nifty 4700 2 Calls Short @ 94 - Current 107
Long Suzlon 80 1 lot Put @ 0.45 - Current 0.6

Closed Trades Jun 09:
Long Tisco 400 Put @ 10 - Took profit@ 20
Short Educomp Fut 1 lot @ 3212 - Took Profit @ 3180 (Booked Profit too early)

U P&L Jun Derivatives = -712
R P&L Jun Derivatives = +19,463

Went Short on Educomp Fut @ 3212. Had a TP of 3140 and SL of 3250, but closed out Early at 3180 as the profit was realized in just 15 mins. Really not able to hold on to the position when in profit.
 
#29
Dear All,

Will someone guide me?
Last month bought june pe 2700 at Rs.28.
Now which put strategy should be applied to minimise loss and gain profit?
Please guide me.
 

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