Excerpt- "How I Made 2,000,000 in the Stock Market" by darvas

#1
The Gambler

Chapter 1 - Canadian Period

- My pet stocks were causing me my biggest losses

- The sudden drops after he has invested his money are one of the most mystifying phenomena facing the amateur

The Fundamentalist

Chapter 2 - Entering Wall Street
Chapter 3 - My First Crisis

- The stock that saved me I knew nothing about; I picked it for one reason onlyit seemed to be rising


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The Technician

Chapter 4 - Developing the Box Theory
Chapter 5 - Cables Around the World

- If a dignified matron would suddenly (jump on a table and do a wild dance), this would be unusual and people would immediately say: There is something strange heresomething has happened. In the same way, if a usually inactive stock suddenly became active I would consider this unusual, and if it advanced in price I would buy it.

- It was evident that I had bought the stock at the wrong timehow to judge a movement at the time it happens?

- I began to realize that stock movements were not completely haphazard. As if attracted by a magnet, they had a defined upward or downward trend which, once established, tended to continue.

- Within this trend stocks moved in a series of frames, or what I began to call boxes

- They would oscillate fairly consistently between a low and a high point. These boxes began to exist very clearly for me

- This was the beginning of my box theory which was to lead to a fortune

- When the boxes of a stock in which I was interested stood, like a pyramid, on top of each other, and my stock was in the highest box, I started to watch it

- If it did not bounce up and down in that box I was worriedno bouncing meant it was not a lively stock

- I found that a stock sometimes stayed for weeks in one box

- The task was to define the frame exactly, and be sure the stock did not move decisively below the lower edge of the boxif it did, I sold it at once

- A reaction from 55 to 50 was quite normal while it stayed within its box; stocks are like dancers, they crouch, ready for the spring-up (and dont go smoothly from 50 to 70)

- I learned that the 45 position in a stock after a 50 high point has another benefitit shakes out the weak and frightened stockholders

- I came to see that when a stock was on a definite upward trend there was a feeling of proportion about its advance; if it was on its way, rising from 50 to, say, 70 but occasionally dropping back, that was all part of the right rhythm

- My broker told me I should have put in an automatic on stop buy order

- There is no such thing as cannot in the marketany stock can do anything

- I finally realized that:

1) There was no sure thing in the marketI was bound to be wrong half of the time
2) I must accept this fact and readjust myself accordinglymy pride and ego would have to be subdued
3) I must become an impartial diagnostician, who does not identify himself with any theory or stock
4) I cannot merely take chances. First, I have to reduce my risks as far as humanly possible

- I decided to give on-stop orders to buy at a certain figure with an automatic stop-loss order on them in case the stock went down; this way, I figured, I would never sleep with a loss

- Because of commissions my profits had to be bigger than my losses

- I always sold too quickly because I am a coward; I knew the right thing to do but I invariably did the opposite

- Since I could not train myself not to get scared, I decided to hold on to a rising stock but, at the same time, keep raising my stop-loss order parallel with its rise. I would keep it at such a distance that a meaningless swing in the price would not touch it off. If, however, the stock really turned around and began to drop, I would be sold out immediatelythis way the market would never be able to get more than a fraction of my profits away

- I realized I would never be able to sell at the top, and I would be a fool to sell an advancing stock, so when the boxes started to go into reverse, when the pyramids started to crumblethat was when I would sellautomatically!

- I knew I had to adopt a cool, unemotional attitude toward stocks; that I must not fall in love with them when they rose, and I must not get angry with them when they fell

- There are no such animals as good or bad stocksonly rising or falling stocks. I should hold the rising ones and sell the ones that fall

- I felt like a man who knew a room could be lit up and was fumbling for the switches


My Objectives

1. Right stocks

2. Right timing

3. Small losses

4. Big profits


My Weapon

1. Price & volume

2. Box theory

3. Automatic buy order

4. Stop-loss sell order
 
C

CreditViolet

Guest
#2
Here is an interesting review by Robert Beckman posted at Elitetrader

Back in the 1960s an American nightclub dancer called Nicholas Darvas wrote a book called How I Made Two Million Dollars in the Stock Market. The book told of how the dancer - while pirouetting on the dance floors of the world's most fashionable nightspots - amassed a fortune between engagements by using a simple system. He described it as the `box system'. Copies of frantic cables between Darvas and his stockbrokers were reproduced, showing the companies he was dealing in, the price paid for the shares and the price at which they were sold. There were also heated conversations between Darvas and various film stars of his acquaintance, wanting to know more about his great gift as a stock market speculator. The book combined the razzamatazz of showbiz, the glamour of Hollywood, the nightlife of the international jet set and a formula for quick, easy riches. Woweeee! What a formula for a best-seller! Indeed it was a best-seller, appearing week after week and month after month at number one in the book charts. Millions of copies were sold all over the world to the financially washed, the financially unwashed and the financially unwashable. The book fired the hopes and imagination of millions of people in the United States and elsewhere. In their eyes, with a judgment totally undeflected by thought and reason, Nicholas Darvas was the new Messiah of the financial world, willing to spread the commandments which would bring great riches to all who followed. Darvas had found the touchstone - the Midas touch - which was within reach of anyone able to count and perform feats of simple arithmetic. The subliminal promise of the book was that anybody could make a fortune in the stock market. After all, if a nightclub dancer could do it by spending a few minutes a day on the telephone between jaunts of terpsichore, even a migratory fruit-picker should be able to do it by sending hand signals from a tree. So, in the 1960s, yet another myth was added to help fertilize the seeds of mania that were already sown. Of course, there were a few who could still remember the Crash of '29. But they were mere grains of sand on a beach of billions, ready and willing to be mesmerized by the allure of easy riches, as their ancestors had been so many times before. Not too long after Darvas's book was published, a public inquiry was instigated by Louis Lefkowitz, then US Attorney General. The purpose of the inquiry was to ascertain the validity of the claims made by Darvas, given the influence the book was exerting over what could be a dangerously gullible public. The investigation strongly indicated that the overall claim of the book could be totally fictitious. There seemed to be considerable falsification by omission. While Darvas proudly wrote of the profitable trades he had made, the investigation revealed a number of loss-making trades made by Darvas which never appeared in the book. If the loss-making trades made by Darvas - which never appeared in the book - were deducted from the profit-making trades - which did appear in the book - it was difficult to see how Darvas had made 2 million dollars in the stock market ... if he had made anything at all! Furthermore, the 'box system' which he claimed to have discovered bore a strong resemblance to a system advocated by the king of all speculators, Jesse Livermore, in his one and only book, The Livermore Key. One of the reasons that Livermore took his own life was the fact that the methods outlined in his book were no longer feasible in the United States following the introduction of the Securities and Exchange Commission and the imposition of various restrictions on share dealings. By the time How I Made Two Million Dollars in the Stock Market was published, people had forgotten all about Jesse Livermore. Livermore had become the anti-hero of a bygone era along with the Crash of '29. After studying the findings of the Darvas investigation the Attorney General launched a criminal action against him, alleging that certain statements he had made were fraudulent. Darvas's legal advisers countered with an action against the Attorney General and the United States for defamation of character. Lefkowitz decided the public interest would not he served by embarking on a long, tedious and complicated trial that was likely to give Darvas even more attention than he had already received. He therefore decided to drop the criminal action on condition that Darvas withdrew his action, giving an undertaking never to transact any type of securities dealings in the United States, or to become in any way involved in the US securities industry. Darvas agreed. He then left the United States to become an exile in Europe. Whether or not Darvas actually made 2 million dollars in the stock market has yet to he proved. It is a matter of public record, however, that he made several million dollars from the sale of his book. But by the time I met him in 1976 in the Dorchester Hotel in London, there was every indication that most of the royalties had been whittled away. There had certainly been no profitable share dealing using the `box system'. At the time, Darvas had very little to say about the stock market. By this time he was trying to make a personal comeback with a new book he was writing. It was called How to Be Your Own Doctor. We met on several occasions after that. The man fascinated me. l really wanted to know what made him tick! I've known several successful stock market operators over the years, all of whom shared certain characteristics. Darvas was a showman and a promoter of the highest order. But the qualities which comprise the successful stock market operator were nowhere to he found in my assessment of his character. A few months after our initial meeting Nicholas Darvas checked out of the Dorchester Hotel without leaving a forwarding address. It was to he several years before I heard the name again. The last occasion his name came up was the result of a telephone call 1 had from a firm of lawyers. It seems I have acquired a reputation as a central information bureau for every stock market operator coming in and out of London. The lawyers wanted to know if I could held them find Darvas. They had a bankruptcy petition against him. It was long overdue for service!







CV
:eek:
 

rvlv

Active Member
#3
That was a wonderful eye opening news to all DARVAS admirers.
I have read about number of losses DARVAS made during his trials to succeed in market.
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DARVAS HAD GONE.
The foundation he laid for momentum trading still remains.
He opened a path.
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The new century(21st) techniques are different.
They are
1.Dont believe any thing just like that.
Read and understand,and explore
2.Test,paper trade,back test-confirm
3.Last step
Use the strategy with improved software,with precaution.
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Remember
What Midas said after he acquired the most cherished golden touch
The first thing he did was touch his spects and it became gold.

He said" You can't expect any great good without its being accompanied by a
small inconvenience"
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You expect great profits.
There will be minor losses.
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marcus

Active Member
#5
Its funny my favorute book is called "How I trade for a living" by Gary B. Smith and in his book Gary acknowledges on several occasions from all the dozens of books he's read on the markets Darvas's book remains his favorite to date, even surpassing Livermore's


Its a interesting read and the person who wrote CV's article is wrong Livermore's dosen't ever say his methods will not work after the fomation of the SEC what he does say is he believes the era of the high flying speculator is over during which they could make quick huge profits and at the same time quick huge losses and the time has come for the semi investor who will not be able to make such large sums of money so quickly but will be able to make more money over a longer period of time AND KEEP IT.

I have the book, and I quote from the book pg 80

"Today operations of this kind are not possible as the Commodities Exchange Administration limits the size of any one individuals position in the grain market to two million bushels and while their has been no limit placed on the size of anyone's commitment in the stock market it is equally impossible for any one operator to establish an equally sizeable short position under the exisitng rules in respect to selling short.

I therefore believe the day of the old speculator has gone his place will be taken in the future by the semi investor who while not able to make such large sums in the market quickly will be able to make MORE MONEY over a given period and be able to KEEP IT. I hold the firm believe that the future successful semi-investor will only operate at the psychological time and will eventually realize a much larger percentage out of every minor or major movement htan the purely speculative minded operator ever did"

I very much doubt CV's Robert Beckman has actually read Livermore's book, I however am unable to comment on the Darvas book as I haven't read it.

I think the moral of the story is don't believe what someone else says about something or somebody unless you've verified it yourself.
 

sudoku1

Well-Known Member
#6
The Gambler

Chapter 1 - Canadian Period

- My pet stocks were causing me my biggest losses

- The sudden drops after he has invested his money are one of the most mystifying phenomena facing the amateur

The Fundamentalist

Chapter 2 - Entering Wall Street
Chapter 3 - My First Crisis

- The stock that saved me I knew nothing about; I picked it for one reason onlyit seemed to be rising


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Technician

Chapter 4 - Developing the Box Theory
Chapter 5 - Cables Around the World

- If a dignified matron would suddenly (jump on a table and do a wild dance), this would be unusual and people would immediately say: There is something strange heresomething has happened. In the same way, if a usually inactive stock suddenly became active I would consider this unusual, and if it advanced in price I would buy it.

- It was evident that I had bought the stock at the wrong timehow to judge a movement at the time it happens?

- I began to realize that stock movements were not completely haphazard. As if attracted by a magnet, they had a defined upward or downward trend which, once established, tended to continue.

- Within this trend stocks moved in a series of frames, or what I began to call boxes

- They would oscillate fairly consistently between a low and a high point. These boxes began to exist very clearly for me

- This was the beginning of my box theory which was to lead to a fortune

- When the boxes of a stock in which I was interested stood, like a pyramid, on top of each other, and my stock was in the highest box, I started to watch it

- If it did not bounce up and down in that box I was worriedno bouncing meant it was not a lively stock

- I found that a stock sometimes stayed for weeks in one box

- The task was to define the frame exactly, and be sure the stock did not move decisively below the lower edge of the boxif it did, I sold it at once

- A reaction from 55 to 50 was quite normal while it stayed within its box; stocks are like dancers, they crouch, ready for the spring-up (and dont go smoothly from 50 to 70)

- I learned that the 45 position in a stock after a 50 high point has another benefitit shakes out the weak and frightened stockholders

- I came to see that when a stock was on a definite upward trend there was a feeling of proportion about its advance; if it was on its way, rising from 50 to, say, 70 but occasionally dropping back, that was all part of the right rhythm

- My broker told me I should have put in an automatic on stop buy order

- There is no such thing as cannot in the marketany stock can do anything

- I finally realized that:

1) There was no sure thing in the marketI was bound to be wrong half of the time
2) I must accept this fact and readjust myself accordinglymy pride and ego would have to be subdued
3) I must become an impartial diagnostician, who does not identify himself with any theory or stock
4) I cannot merely take chances. First, I have to reduce my risks as far as humanly possible

- I decided to give on-stop orders to buy at a certain figure with an automatic stop-loss order on them in case the stock went down; this way, I figured, I would never sleep with a loss

- Because of commissions my profits had to be bigger than my losses

- I always sold too quickly because I am a coward; I knew the right thing to do but I invariably did the opposite

- Since I could not train myself not to get scared, I decided to hold on to a rising stock but, at the same time, keep raising my stop-loss order parallel with its rise. I would keep it at such a distance that a meaningless swing in the price would not touch it off. If, however, the stock really turned around and began to drop, I would be sold out immediatelythis way the market would never be able to get more than a fraction of my profits away

- I realized I would never be able to sell at the top, and I would be a fool to sell an advancing stock, so when the boxes started to go into reverse, when the pyramids started to crumblethat was when I would sellautomatically!

- I knew I had to adopt a cool, unemotional attitude toward stocks; that I must not fall in love with them when they rose, and I must not get angry with them when they fell

- There are no such animals as good or bad stocksonly rising or falling stocks. I should hold the rising ones and sell the ones that fall

- I felt like a man who knew a room could be lit up and was fumbling for the switches


My Objectives

1. Right stocks

2. Right timing

3. Small losses

4. Big profits


My Weapon

1. Price & volume

2. Box theory

3. Automatic buy order

4. Stop-loss sell order
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