Experiments in Technical Analysis

jaykiru · #**261** 13th October 2006, 09:49 AM

Hi Sir,
Getwell soon...&..&..Please take care of your health.

Jay

dipankar_ghosh · #**262** 14th October 2006, 03:05 PM

Hello everyone on this wonderfull site.I have benefitted from the discussions posted here.

dipankar_ghosh · #**263** 14th October 2006, 03:11 PM

Could anybody tell me the extreme short term targets of Hindusthan Oil Exploration and TVToday Regards

karthikmarar · #**264** 15th October 2006, 08:50 PM

Hi Dipankar

You have selected two stocks still in bear grips. They sort of never really recovered after the Big May fall.

It is advisable is keep away from these even for short term.

Karthik

pkjha30 · #**265** 16th October 2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karthikmarar

Hi Rahul

I was a bit preoccupied with office work and also working sector and industry allocations for NSE stocks for Amibroker. Added to that health has been a dampener of late.

Karthik

Hi Karthik

Take good care of your health. Overwork in desert region could easily sap one's energy. Wish you health and wealth both

. And we do need your doubt relief and experimentations but not at the cost of your health.
pankaj

karthikmarar · #**266** 16th October 2006, 02:10 AM

Dear Pankaj

Thanks a lot for the concern. I have recovered well and ready.

Looks like the sharks will put up good show this week on Midcaps too. Finally they have succeeded in creating the euphoria. Now in order to get more guys in some action required on the Midcaps front too.. Good time for short term gains... be sure to get ut before the axe falls...

warm regards

karthik

karthikmarar · #**267** 16th October 2006, 02:14 AM

Hi Everybody,

I am back to this thread after some time. Before we proceed further would share something I came across recently with you all. Again not related to Technical Analysis, but on trading in general.

Many members and friends often come to me to do an evaluation of their trading, especially when they are doing badly. One day a friend Mani Iyer dropped in and said, “My trading is pretty bad. The stock always shoots up after my exit. Luck is not with me any more. Can you have a look at my trading.” And then handed a list of his trades to me.

One look, the list did look quite unimpressive. Then we decided to go through each trade and I opened the chart of the first stock. The stock was dull, aimless sideways movement and did not warrant any attention. That first trade details as follows.

Stock : HCC , Entry date : 19/9 Price:106.3 , sell date: 29/09 sell price : 106.1

I was puzzled and our further conversation went like this.

Mani: “ I entered HCC on 19/9 and ooooh.. it reached 94 , I have had enough, I will exit at the earliest occasion, I exit ....and see now a whooping 30% gain “
Me: “Mani, First why did you enter this stock? What were the criteria?”
Mani: “Thought it would go up”
Me: “ Thought….. you mean no other criteria? No, crossover, volume increase, n day breakout? No Tips? Somebody posted in the forum?”
Mani: “ .er….mmm.. well it looked set for good move…”
Me:” looked set….. Mani, in what way… Actually the day you entered the price closed below the previous day…. Did you use some Indictors”
Mani : “ …no Indicator…..mmm.. oh.. .ya… Think it was price action”
Me: “But the price action does not indicate any bullishness..”
Mani: “ Well, there was some reason,… don’t remember exactly..but there was one”
Me: “ Ok, Why did you exit the stock when you did?”
Mani: “Thought it will drop and look the day after I sell the stock moved up. If I were holding it still, I would have made good money, my rotten luck”
Me:”Mani, you made a exit when the stock was about to move up, momentum was just building and the day you exited was the ideal day for entry”
Me: “ Ok what was stoploss? Was there any profit objective”
Mani:” Preservation of capital is important so I will sell if I feel that the stock may drop”

The story repeated for most stocks. Ten trades, overall profit Rs.400. Commission paid to the broker was much more the money earned. His broker must love this guy.

Me: “No entry rules, no stoploss, no profit taking targets, no money management..nothing ….MANI, YOU DON’T A SYSTEM”

This is not an isolated case. I have come across many members who trade with out any system and finally blame their rotten luck, the stupid broker. They don’t realize that trading without a system is akin to gambling. If they continue like this they will soon get frustrated and forsake trading itself.

I narrated this interesting incident in order to bring out the importance of having a system for better trading.

In due course we will cover the basic aspects of a trading system more in details so that the newbie could start at least building their basic system.

Oops, this has become rather an elaborate post.. taxing your patience..

Warm regards

Karthik

J_rgopalan · #**268** 16th October 2006, 12:25 PM

Dear kartik

I am a new member. Your indicator on Elliot wave is very interesting. I ma also fairly a novice to metastock as well. can you explain a little more as to how we the codes you have given can be used with metastock 9 version.

Tks & Brgds

j.Rajagopalan

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykiru

Ok Karthi
I m first
I Found Two indicator For meta stock

1)Elliot Wave :
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pr:=Input("Elliot Wave minimum % move",
.001,100,2);

{ Beginner Elliot Wave stuff }
EWpk:=PeakBars(1,H,pr)=0;
EWtr:=TroughBars(1,L,pr)=0;

{ Intermediate Elliot Wave stuff }
zz:=Zig(C,pr,%);
zzHi:=Zig(H,pr,%);
zzLo:=Zig(L,pr,%);
avg:=(zzHi+zzLo)/2;

{ Advanced Elliot Wave stuff }
RetroSuccessSecret:=If(EWpk,zzHi,
If(EWtr,zzLo,If(avg>Ref(avg,-1),H,L)));
EW:=Zig(RetroSuccessSecret,pr,%);

{ Plot on price chart }
EW
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2)Elliot Wave Signals :
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pr:=Input("Elliot Wave minimum % move",
.001,100,2);

{ Elliot Wave engine }
EWpk:=PeakBars(1,H,pr)=0;
EWtr:=TroughBars(1,L,pr)=0;

zz:=Zig(C,pr,%);
zzHi:=Zig(H,pr,%);
zzLo:=Zig(L,pr,%);
avg:=(zzHi+zzLo)/2;

RetroSuccessSecret:=If(EWpk,zzHi,
If(EWtr,zzLo,If(avg>Ref(avg,-1),H,L)));
EW:=Zig(RetroSuccessSecret,pr,%);

{ Buy/Sell Elliot Wave stuff }
EWbuy:=TroughBars(1,EW,pr)=0;
EWsell:=PeakBars(1,EW,pr)=0;

{ Plot on own window }
EWbuy-EWsell
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Kaisa laga . please tell me .

karthikmarar · #**269** 17th October 2006, 01:35 AM

Hi Rajagopal

This EW indicator was actually posted by Jay. You can copy the code in the metastock Indicator builder to create these indicators.

regards

karthik

asnavale · #**270** 22nd October 2006, 12:39 AM

Wishing all the members a happy and prosperous Diwali. I wish all the members have a very successful trading year.

-Anant

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