Experiments in Technical Analysis

amarnath · #**1181** 27th December 2007, 10:00 AM

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forums are for brain-storming and healthy discussions to toss ideas and help participants, I am sorry to see you go, but if that's your choice than wish you good luck with your other activities.

i too wish all good lucks when making use of own brain than other silly experts??? ideas and experiments

sudoku1 · #**1182** 27th December 2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by amarnath

i too wish all good lucks when making use of own brain than other silly experts??? ideas and experiments

A BRAIN STORMING SEMINAR INDEED.......

asksree · #**1183** 27th December 2007, 12:13 PM

Great Idea
Go ahead..
Cheers

aca_trader · #**1184** 27th December 2007, 05:43 PM

A pity that things have stooped to such low levels. The thread may or may not have any utility but then utility has never been an objective subject. BTW, some of the reactions here make one wonder if one's university professors have a better role in shaping one up or it was the nursery teachers' role. Can we ever answer that question?

Further, I also wonder if advertisement is a bigger offence than swearing when it comes to banning members from forum!!

Regards,
--Ashish

newbee · #**1185** 27th December 2007, 07:37 PM

It looks like a typical scam, using an old 3 step technique on a public forum

Flame a popular thread to draw attention
Brag about your own performance (using fake trades/records)
Fleece the newbies, using the private message route

Think . . . anyone will be falling for it ? ? ?

oxusmorouz · #**1186** 27th December 2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by newbee

It looks like a typical scam, using an old 3 step technique on a public forum

Flame a popular thread to draw attention
Brag about your own performance (using fake trades/records)
Fleece the newbies, using the private message route

Think . . . anyone will be falling for it ? ? ?

Looks like people have missed the person's point entirely and have concentrated on more trivial areas. Point made by Amarnath is simple: The way the experimentation process has been carried forward and the core concept around which the experiment relied on is flawed.

http://www.traderji.com/technical-an...alysis-94.html

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Originally Posted by CreditViolet

Ok, so we are talking DSP here.Talking abt filters, MAs are low pass filters while derivatives of SMA etc like MACD are hi-pass filters.But before we get into all that, lets talk about the time-series itself.

Ok, so a stationary series is one whose statistical properties are constant along its length. Its quite well documented that financial time-series are heavy-tailed and not stationary.Volatility clustering is another important topic, i.e tendency of autocorrelation in volatility.Given all these different conditions, I think its absolutely treacherous to try and detect signals in all this noise.Theres just too much randomness to deal with here than most people think and most are 'getting' fooled by it.

What I saw on this thread was a propensity to design 'buy and sell' systems but absolutely no effort was made into understanding the data itself. For me atleast, the buy-sell signal part hardly is the important issue, the key thing is to beat randomness.I have attached a map of my development process, the 'Analysis & Mining' is the primary area of my development. Another thing it does is to help with 'intuitive' understanding of markets. Ofcourse people are not interested in such undertakings, everyone wants to quickly get to the 'buy-sell' stage. Again, as I have said before, its not bad at all or something I complain about, as Napoleon once said - " Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake". Ofcourse I am talking generally and not about you guys. The effort you guys have put in here is commendable but IMHO this is not the way to go around about system design.

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Originally Posted by CreditViolet

The problem is indeed the concept. A MACD tells nothing but the difference b/w two MAs.It has nothing to do with trend at all, sure indicators can be useful but then its more about 'reading' it than anything else. A good example is Chick Goslin who uses the 3-10-16 oscillator beautifully.

Rgds

amarnath · #**1187** 27th December 2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by newbee

It looks like a typical scam, using an old 3 step technique on a public forum

Flame a popular thread to draw attention
Brag about your own performance (using fake trades/records)
Fleece the newbies, using the private message route

ps: to buggy minded newbee , if i show contract notice can you hang yourself to death

Think . . . anyone will be falling for it ? ? ?

popular doesn't mean sucessful it may be dead load of craps

I am not silly newbee or bug like u and not idiot experimentators are real traders here then ???

check my pm if you need and i dont have time to count silly penny and paisa

amarnath · #**1188** 27th December 2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oxusmorouz

Looks like people have missed the person's point entirely and have concentrated on more trivial areas. Point made by Amarnath is simple: The way the experimentation process has been carried forward and the core concept around which the experiment relied on is flawed.

http://www.traderji.com/technical-an...alysis-94.html

very true oxo but it need peoples with grey matter not muscles

uma_k · #**1189** 27th December 2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by amarnath

I am too not expert in above said subject's but i have common sense to design trading system's rather than wasting time with macd like other's here

It continues further

you can google word At&CF (Adaptive Trend & Cycles Following). to find more

... ... ... etc.

· The beginning or resuming the movement in one direction of FATL and SATL lines give signals either on the tendency reversal or finishing the correction and resuming price movement in the SATL direction.

Thanks Amarnath for the details. Also thanks to newbie for the link.

*** Uma ***

karthikmarar · #**1190** 27th December 2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oxusmorouz

Looks like people have missed the person's point entirely and have concentrated on more trivial areas. Point made by Amarnath is simple: The way the experimentation process has been carried forward and the core concept around which the experiment relied on is flawed.

Oxy

It is very easy to comment, isn’t it? Ok it may be flawed… But do come forward and tell what is right… Are you ready to do that….

Like Amarnath has been ranting and ranting but not one useful post to explain what is right. If one says something is wrong he has the moral responsibility to tell what is right…

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