Experiments in Technical Analysis

Its not a cold war btw me or any one here and i see karthik from most correct view so trying to save him before this thread erupt into bad direction's and i never waste my time and wait for accidental or lucky discoveries and i always prefer scientific one and if reconsider and evaluate your views about recent way of this experimental paths before advising me again and if you buddies feels than i am disorting this threads aim then just say STOP to me and i will stand aside till experimentation is over and to see how damage occurs like wounds to newbies trading account for which i dont need to bother really

Hello

My newbie naive mind wonders how come suddenly amaranth has developed motherly feeling for us newbie’s and is trying to protect us from Karthik and his evil macd designs

Maybe it bothers him that Why does this "useless" stuff getting more than 1000 posts, specially since most of the 34 Great Threads started by amarnath could not make past a handful posts.

Or maybe it bothers him that newbie’s are spending (should it be wasting) precious time trying to learn, rather than subscribe to great advisory services like the ones being offered by his great holiness.

Thanks a lot Amarnath, for protecting us newbie’s from people like Karthik and his followers like Kalyan

Out of last 70 odd posts over last 7-8 days on this thread Amarnath has made 30 posts (which is more than 3-4 times the average no of posts he has made on his own threads till date ).

Well thats quite a few posts just to trash this thread. Thanks a lot for your efforts. Where would we newbie's be without vigilant seniors like you

Hope you don’t get soo many clients for your advisory services to keep you soo busy, that it will not allow you to protect us the way you are doing on this thread.

Keep it up, keep doing more of this stuff ...

I had contributed on my advisory thread when i feel most confident and none of trader i called publicly affected any one equity and re read all post on same if you find time and i am not idiot to experiment others money in name of experimental TA

good counting on my thread even i dont count thanks for your stat on this matter, advisory can be possible if i see low risk high reward scenerio on market which i am doing quite free on those swing calls

When whole western traders in holiday mood i cant drive commodities just with my calls or positions , you poor newbee

now this thread is threatning to become TRADERJI KE SHOLAY....

Newbee when you really need 1000s of post to understand this is useless experimentation you are really a brilliant learner with peanut sized brain

And you feel i am trying to trash this thread essentially NO but trying to save before your newbies account get trashed into margin call before this experiment develop some useful stuff

Please avoid using such language here!

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Hi Amarnath,

I am no expert in TA nor in Maths, physics, electronics etc. The above calculation you have given for the filters is quite lengthy though simple. I want to know whether the calculation is claculated upto Ref(C, -916) or continues further. If to be continued then to what extent?

Also, I want to know how to apply these filters to the price data and what conclusions can be drawn.

I hope you will not mind answering these questions, may be they are very simple. I am very new, so I am asking these questions. I did not find much about the filters in this forum except your posts. Kindly help me understand.

*** Uma ***

I am too not expert in above said subject's but i have common sense to design trading system's rather than wasting time with macd like other's here

It continues further

you can google word At&CF (Adaptive Trend & Cycles Following). to find more

AT&CF Indicators

AT&CF Indicators are eight technical indicators which are based on DSP (Digital Signal Processing) theory and can give you an exact formalized market description without any delay. The indicators are digital filters and can supply you with precise signals for your trading decisions. This precision is unavailable for based on averages indicators (which are always late) and used in classic trading analysis.


• FATL - Fast Adaptive Trend Line;
• RFTL - Reference Fast Trend Line;
• SATL - Slow Adaptive trend line;
• RSTL - Reference Slow Trend Line;
• FTLM - Fast Trend Line Momentum;
• STLM - Slow Trend Line Momentum;
• RBCI - Range Bound Channel Index;
• PCCI - Perfect Commodity Channel Index


Main principles to be observed at the concrete trading algorithm development are the following:


· Trade only in the direction of the prevailing tendency the direction of which is specified by "slow" adaptive trend line SATL;

· To consider dynamic characteristic-s of the "fast" and "slow" trend represented by the FTLM and STLM indicators;

· To use information on what area of the values (neutral, overbought, oversold, local maximum and local minimum) is the sum of prevailing market cycles (index of RBCI) in chosen by means of frequency range spectral analysis;

· To take oscillator signals as secondary ones in cases when trend indicators are evidence of the very marked bearish or bullish tendency availability;

· To take oscillator signals as main ones in cases when trend indicators give signals about absence of the very marked tendency;

· To use flexible system of protective stop orders based on the values of RBCI, PCCI indexes and volatility values of the "fast" market oscillations.


Main rules for the above mentioned instruments interpretation are the following:

· Growing SATL line is evidence of the bullish trend on the market. The point of the reversal beginning of the bearish trend is considered the point of the local minimum of SATL. The point of finishing the reversal of the bearish trend is the point where the sign of STLM changed from minus into plus.

· Falling SATL line is evidence of the bearish trend on the market. The point of the bullish trend reversal beginning is considered the point of the local SATL maximum. The point of finishing the bullish trend reversal is the point where STLM sign changed from plus into minus.

· Close to horizontal the form of SATL is evidence of the neutral tendency.

· STLM interpretation requires special attention. Positive value of STLM is evidence of the bullish trend and the negative one testifies the bearish trend. STLM is an advance indicator. Local minimum of STLM always precedes the local minimum of SATL. Local maximum of STLM always precedes the local maximum of SATL. Achievement by STLM its points of extremum is necessary but insufficient condition for the achievement by the curve of SATL the top or the bottom. Growing STLM at growing SATL is evidence of the bullish trend acceleration. Horizontal and positive STLM at growing SATL is evidence of the set bullish trend. The more absolute the value of STLM, the more potential the bullish trend has. Falling STLM at falling SATL testifies the bearish trend acceleration.




Horizontal and negative STLM at growing SATL testifies the bearish trend setting. The more absolute value of STLM, the more potential the bearish trend has.




· Growing "fast" FATL trend line at the growing "slow" SATL trend line is evidence of the strong bullish trend on the market.

· Falling "fast" line of FATL at the falling "slow" line of SATL is evidence of the strong bearish trend on the market.

· Growing FATL line at falling SATL line is evidence of either bullish correction at the bearish trend or consolidation.

· Falling FATL line at growing SATL line is evidence of either bearish correction at the bullish trend or consolidation.

· The beginning or resuming the movement in one direction of FATL and SATL lines give signals either on the tendency reversal or finishing the correction and resuming price movement in the SATL direction.

Another one question to Karthik when he is real trader and good one why not he can disclose his own trading system, when he is having so great contributing mind ? to share his ideas just to experiment?? rather than real system if he have one ? if he is trading truely on own account ??

If everybody learns TA and start trading better what Tipsters will do...poor Guys

I dont share my edge like your silly experimentation and i have gut to post real trades i did DO u ??

Managing forex and commodities accounts of NRI is not illegal

Yes i offered some calls for free when i find time like u but i dont waste my time in silly experimentation like u with age old indiactor and act like proclaimed expert?

I proved i am not poor guy like you with today screen shot from odin and show us proof you are real trader