Point and Figure Chart Excel Sheet

findvikas

Well-Known Member
#31
Since most people are new to PnF, why cant we put the charts along with the reason for its buy or sell signal.

Let us do this for sometime till everyone gets used to it.

How about his idea FindVikas?

Let me know if i can assist you on this.. But i too dont know about PnF. :)

Once again.. thanks for starting this thread...

Regards,
Arvind
I thinks its a good idea Arvind... we can start using this thread to post PnF charts with Target & SL as you see them....

here is NIFTY chart for past 3.5 months.
TARGET/Resistance = 5230
SL/Support = 5125

Chart

 

VJAY

Well-Known Member
#32
Here afl for p and f chart for you all which may make your study little bit easier.....and dont 4get to thank if you like it....
Dear rocky,
When i tryed afl in nifty future its giving an error as attached image....but on other scrips its showing the chart?pl give some remedy...

 

itzarvind

Well-Known Member
#33
FindVikas,

You have come up with an wonderful chart.. Keep up the good job.

One more suggestion ( sorry for troubling you more :) )

From the chart we can visualize things, but for begginers it looks little odd, how about mentioning the reason for the trigger :thumb:,

So here it goes, Reason for buy, Reason for Target, Reason for Stop loss.

It's all about learning and make others learn.

This idea will not only give triggers, but also it makes all the readers to generate triggers by themselves.

Soon, i will also assist you in this.. Just now starting a little about PnF

Ok Here we go,

Questions,

Target, is it the meeting point of the last "X" with the trend line.

Stoploss, is it the previous high of the "X"

(If the above points are correct for stoploss and target, any specific reasons fot it.)

Sorry, if am troubling you more.

Let us make this as a success, since PnF is very effective(Found in internet)

Regards,
Arvind



I thinks its a good idea Arvind... we can start using this thread to post PnF charts with Target & SL as you see them....

here is NIFTY chart for past 3.5 months.
TARGET/Resistance = 5230
SL/Support = 5125

Chart

 

AW10

Well-Known Member
#34
I thinks its a good idea Arvind... we can start using this thread to post PnF charts with Target & SL as you see them....

here is NIFTY chart for past 3.5 months.
TARGET/Resistance = 5230
SL/Support = 5125
Vikas, have u read somewhere this method of drawing trendling and projecting targets on P&F chart ?

As far as I know,
1) TLines on P&F chart are not draw in the way we do it on bar or candle charts. P&F TL are
- always at the 45degree angle.
- Upsloping line is drawn from the lowest box of column of "O".
- Downslope line is drawn from the topmost box of column oc "X".
- as long as following X / O are above, below these lines, trend is in place.
- You don't need two points to draw a TL on P&F chart.. in that way, it beats the TL of regular chart where u have to wait for next PH/PL.
- Once price crosses the TL, generally TL is terminated there i.e. it is not extended further on the chart.

Beauty of P&F chart is that it makes trend identification pretty easy and unambiguous.

2) Buy/sell signal..
- extreme point of column of O or X tells us the level from which price turned the direction. This is very similar to the concept of Pivot high /low that price action trader use actively.
- When current column of X crosses the high of prev X column, we get buy signal.
- When current column of O drops below the low of prev O column, we get Sell signal.
- We are always in buy or in sell mode depending on the value of last column, we will hold the position or exit the position and wait for next trigger.
e.g.- if last column is of X and it has given buy signal (crossed above prev X column high), then we are long on the market. (this is no different then going long on the break of pivot high. Because next X is drawn only when price moves by a box size, this works as automatic entry filter here).
As soon as we can draw a column of O..i.e. price has fallen by 3 box size, then we exit long position. We don't go short cause sell signal will be triggered only when price falls below the low of prev column of O.

P&F trading is most simplified version of price action trading. And these chart don't follow indicators of technical analysis.. so don't try to mix them.

Target projection is different chapter altogather. It uses the width of consolidation (horizontal counting) and depth of lowest point of cosolidation to breakout point (vertical counting) to project the targets.

Hope this helps to all P&F enthusiastics on this thread. Only suggestion is, plz spend time and read about it before jumping into Where to Buy/ Where to Sell question..

all the best. and happy P&F trading.
 

VJAY

Well-Known Member
#37
Vikas, have u read somewhere this method of drawing trendling and projecting targets on P&F chart ?

As far as I know,
1) TLines on P&F chart are not draw in the way we do it on bar or candle charts. P&F TL are
- always at the 45degree angle.
- Upsloping line is drawn from the lowest box of column of "O".
- Downslope line is drawn from the topmost box of column oc "X".
- as long as following X / O are above, below these lines, trend is in place.
- You don't need two points to draw a TL on P&F chart.. in that way, it beats the TL of regular chart where u have to wait for next PH/PL.
- Once price crosses the TL, generally TL is terminated there i.e. it is not extended further on the chart.

Beauty of P&F chart is that it makes trend identification pretty easy and unambiguous.

2) Buy/sell signal..
- extreme point of column of O or X tells us the level from which price turned the direction. This is very similar to the concept of Pivot high /low that price action trader use actively.
- When current column of X crosses the high of prev X column, we get buy signal.
- When current column of O drops below the low of prev O column, we get Sell signal.
- We are always in buy or in sell mode depending on the value of last column, we will hold the position or exit the position and wait for next trigger.
e.g.- if last column is of X and it has given buy signal (crossed above prev X column high), then we are long on the market. (this is no different then going long on the break of pivot high. Because next X is drawn only when price moves by a box size, this works as automatic entry filter here).
As soon as we can draw a column of O..i.e. price has fallen by 3 box size, then we exit long position. We don't go short cause sell signal will be triggered only when price falls below the low of prev column of O.

P&F trading is most simplified version of price action trading. And these chart don't follow indicators of technical analysis.. so don't try to mix them.

Target projection is different chapter altogather. It uses the width of consolidation (horizontal counting) and depth of lowest point of cosolidation to breakout point (vertical counting) to project the targets.

Hope this helps to all P&F enthusiastics on this thread. Only suggestion is, plz spend time and read about it before jumping into Where to Buy/ Where to Sell question..

all the best. and happy P&F trading.
Wow !!!wonderful explanation AW10 ...thanks for all your posts which guide anyone to success........Can you explain this with an pnf chart?charts are better talk then words....
 

itzarvind

Well-Known Member
#38
Vjay. that would be a perfect way to start PnF.

AW10, Findvikas, Throw some more light on Pnf. It would be of real help.

AW10--Your explanation is very good and it will be usefull for all beginers (including me)

Regards,
Arvind
 

AW10

Well-Known Member
#39
On popular demand, here I am uploading Nifty P&F chart with trend lines, Long/short entry points.



As the last column is of X, we are in buy zone. Infact we also had last singal as buy.
Though market has come down form 5150-5200 box on this chart.. but price needs to drop by 3 boxes of 50 size each i.e. 3*50 = 150 pts form 5200 level before we see new column of O column.

Though we shd wait for col of O to develop before we can draw down trendline but in-order to show that downtrend, I have drawn it in this chart.. i.e as long as price remains below this line, we are in downtrend..

if you can visualise the candle chart of nifty from this, then each turning point i.e extreme end of column of X or O is nothing but pivot high/low level. On P&F charts, Buy is generated when prev X high is broken. which is nothing but prev Pivot high is taken out. Due to box size of 50, it ensures that we enter when there is price has crossed by few points before we take the entry.

Feel free to raise your questions.

Happy Trading
 

itzarvind

Well-Known Member
#40
AW10,

Thanks for the chart,

we expect you to post your continour analysis on PnF.

So simple , when X cuts above its previous X, its Buy and O cuts below its previous O, its Sell.

Ok need some more clarification,

How is this calculated, Learned that PnF Focuses only on the Price movements.

How an X and O is calculated. and how one box is calculated as 50 for nifty.

What is the logic behind this calculation..

Expecting your Reply.

Regards,
Arvind
 

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