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Hi LVG,

Not able to actually define major and minor pivot in words.........but today's chart is perfect to show to you.So will post the chart later on.

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Thanks. Will be great to see that explained in the chart.
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As always,long above the 5min bar high.........


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As always,long above the 5min bar high.........


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Rules of trade are not clearly defined here.......Amit,if you'd like,should I lay them out?Or else,plz put them all together.

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Rules of trade are not clearly defined here.......Amit,if you'd like,should I lay them out?Or else,plz put them all together.

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Rules.

1) Just the Pivot break in 30 min gives us our trend.
2) Enter at the break of a pivot and in the direction of the above trend.
3) Add at the following 5 min pivot, once the previous position is out of the rough.

Saint, please correct the rules and, better still, print your version so that all of us can refer to them.
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Gap up opening, enter at 5 min high break at 4582 SL = 4558
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Saint, in this method of 30/5.... what portion of your entire allocation to Nifty trading do you put in the first trade... 5, 10 or 20%

I mean, there are several whipsaws in the 5 min PH break type entry... the strike rate is well below 50%. So, while you take the first 5 min pivot high break your position sizing must be a very cautious one? And as the trade gathers momentum and moves smartly in your direction you must be going hammer and tongs on it by putting in the entire load in 2 bits.

Essentially, this method relies heavily on adds.
I mean, if one is trading only the first 5 min Pivot break... then this method will definitely not earn him at all.

Please comment and feel free to correct.
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SL raised to 4574, which is now threatened... on the break of which going short seems ok... this is against the 30 min trend, but tempting
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Stop hit. we are out...
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Saint, in this method of 30/5.... what portion of your entire allocation to Nifty trading do you put in the first trade... 5, 10 or 20%

I mean, there are several whipsaws in the 5 min PH break type entry... the strike rate is well below 50%. So, while you take the first 5 min pivot high break your position sizing must be a very cautious one? And as the trade gathers momentum and moves smartly in your direction you must be going hammer and tongs on it by putting in the entire load in 2 bits.

Essentially, this method relies heavily on adds.
I mean, if one is trading only the first 5 min Pivot break... then this method will definitely not earn him at all.

Please comment and feel free to correct.
That's true,my friend.............it's the adds that make all the profits.Getting stopped out many times get neutralised by the adds.

Basically doing this you are not exactly intraday trading,are you?You are basically buying and selling as per the 30min charts,and using the 30 to keep you from the unnecessary trading.The only thing similar to hardcore intraday trading is that you are exitting all positions at the end of the day and reentering the next day.

Therefore the reason I never started this thread.........Have made lots using this method,but made far far more using the 60min flow.....with less frustrations as well......and with less money to the broker.

Pivots are nice in the 30,60 and above scenario..........but irritating on a 5.With all the adds,does it work?Yes.........but not before it makes you a manic-depressive.

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saint

sir,,

what ia hev noticed .. practically..that trading bon support / res..(nifty ) is much more quicker than trading on pivots,,,,on 5min no matter whtever span it is...

because at times if nifty is making consolidation it can not be much longer ..though...tehn difficult to get judge of pivots,,,
sometimes sudden fall / ups,,, disturbs teh pivot theory....tehn that sudden move has to take rest ,,,or u eneter from fresh pivots

renu
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