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Old 26th January 2007, 04:16 PM
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Hello all,

Please have a look at the charts. Are these patterns reliable?
1. Centurial Bank - flag. The breakout doesn't have volume confirmation.
2. HDFC - breakout from symmetric triangle. No volume confirmation during the day where it broke out. But the volume sky rocketed the following day. Can this volume be considered as confirmation for breakout?

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Hi,

Some more patterns identified.

Most of the patterns which i've posted are for learning purpose. Please feel free to air your views.

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Hello all,

Please have a look at the charts. Are these patterns reliable?
1. Centurial Bank - flag. The breakout doesn't have volume confirmation.
2. HDFC - breakout from symmetric triangle. No volume confirmation during the day where it broke out. But the volume sky rocketed the following day. Can this volume be considered as confirmation for breakout?

Thanks,
Praveen.
HDFC-- Yes! the volume on second day can be taken as confirmation but now the risk-reward ratio is unfourable from a pattern trading viewpoint. Hence, we should wait for a pullback and evaluate the condition later on.

Centurion Bank- The period of flag formation was only 3 days and hence it's doubtful if we it can be considered a flag. However, if this formation is accepted as flag, the volume on breakout day,i.e., 23rd Jan is more than double of the volume on preceding bar. IMHO, this should be accepted as volume confirmation. On the breakout day, if volume is be substantially (1.5 to 2 times) higher to the volume on previous bar, it can be taken as valid volume confirmation.

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Hi Ashish,

Great thread,cool blog.....very nice,my friend.Was wondering when you would put down your knowledge.....Great Stuff.

Keep em coming!

All the best!

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Hi Saint!
Thanks a lot for your kind words. Inspiration & knowledge of seniors is the motivator as well as fuel of this thread and the blog. I am merely putting down on the pages what I have learnt from everybody. Hope this serves the interest of fellow traders.

Thanks once again!

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RCOM is a beauty alrite. My favorite stock to trade these days.

Nice blog b/w, will link it.

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Hi,

Some more patterns identified.

Most of the patterns which i've posted are for learning purpose. Please feel free to air your views.

Regards,
Praveen.
Hi Praveen!

My views on HindOil and Cummins are attached. Cummins is a poised case while the HindOil R:R is not favourable from Pattern view-point.

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Thanks for taking time to visit & appreciate the blog.
How is your current reserach going on?

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Hey Ashish
Research is going great! Will post about it on the blog and get feedback as soon as its completed.

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Triangles are the flavour of today.
Check-out the breakdown from descnding triangle on TVSMOTOR.

Other triangle breakouts have taken place in Bank of Baroda, Chennai Petro, Glaxo, Nagarjuna Construction and punj-Lloyd.

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Hello Ashish,

Thanks for your replies.

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HDFC ... the volume on second day can be taken as confirmation ...
Although the bookish knowledge tells that the volume should be high on breakout day, I couldn't understand why its sufficient even if the breakout days' volume is less and the following day's volume is high. Isn't it against the theory. Can you please explain it?

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Centurion Bank- The period of flag formation was only 3 days and hence it's doubtful if we it can be considered a flag
Why? Isn't three days enough for a flag formation. Actually speaking, sharp rise followed by a consolidation, leads to the formation of flag. I don't think there is any min. days to be met for the flag to be considered valid.
Can you please explain?

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Check-out the breakdown from descnding triangle on TVSMOTOR.

Other triangle breakouts have taken place in Bank of Baroda, Chennai Petro, Glaxo, Nagarjuna Construction and punj-Lloyd.
Hello Ashish,

Just my two cents:

Aren't your risk:reward ratio which you've quoted in the charts are too high. I mean in most of the cases, the risk% is around 10%. Also the reward% too is almost equal to the risk% in most cases. Are you trading with such risk:reward ratios? If so can you please explain your rationale behind trading stocks with such high ratios?
(I hope you have posted them for learning purpose.)

Meanwhile, from your charts which you've posted, I can see that you are using pivot high/low as your stop loss. Isn't it using pivots as stop loss in case of pattern trading will lead to higher risk%? One of my view is to place the stoploss below the trendline where the price brokeout, and once the prices closes at/below stoploss, we sell it. What's your opinion? Of course each one has their own strategy of placing stop loss.

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