How is Smart Finance Rajan classes?

mastermind007

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#12
Hello,

First thing as per my knowledge he is not a trader....he is a Academic and... spend his time writing books and doing research on various mathematical principles and imply them on markets.....he doesn't know about psychological emotions involved in trading .....in all his techniques he only concentrate on entries......he is not sure about exits...if u ask him about it he simply tell.... "this the trade move u exit wherever u feel good".

he will also give targets for his entries but never tell where to exit ex...t1 or t2..t3. if u decide to exit at t1 the trade will move to t2 or t3..then on next trade u decided to exit o t2 then trade will come upto t1 and take u turn and hit the stoploss.....so u r always in confusion about exits.and due that u mess ur trade and end up with huge losses.

....and there r no past performance real trades in his website...so how u can believe that his strategies will help u.

in short all his strategies are incomplete and he don't no about position sizing or risk management..... without that no strategy will succeed.

hope this explanation will help......(hey....i didn't buy anything from him i just researched and couple of phone calls that's all).

Regards,
In one of his PDF books, he explained Gann using a trade that he claimed he had taken. He specified Date, time and the scrip (SBIN), entry prices, exit prices and how he managed trade (S/L).

As far as I can recall, Initially he had entered SHORTon SBIN and trailed positions and exited when scrip hit his trailing S/L (making very small profit). He therefore reasoned that SHORT trade was a failure so took a LONG trade (opposite direction) few minutes later, where he again booked the profit (that was predefined as max by his own calc). I will see if I can find his book somewhere in my PC and reproduce his text verbatim.

He does sound like an academic perhaps because he uses words like "research" and "experiment" often.

(Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with him)
 
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#13
all your comments does not affect me . because i have not shown any contract note or proof of my method which i have not work of my own. the thread is opened with the intention to misguide the trades and stop them to learn rational technique freely from me.. all my techniques are in my website with all its calculation. try it out and write me where it failed with evidence.

all examples and proof i have shown in my literature are real trades done by me and all contract notes are mine. i am a traders and made money from trading. most of my literature and software are just loved by the traders. and the FREE software tool in my site attract 1000 of traders daily and they are making money without buying the tools from me.

My methods on volatility technique, beta decoupling , alpha hedge, index decoupling any one can read from my site and use it in trading free of cost. my challenge to all this shadow critics show me the proof of failure of this techniques with trade and calculation evidence i will withdraw all those methods from public domain.

simply i can say all this critics cannot teach you a single technique free of cost because they are in the mud sliding business and selfish in their thought. i am also sure they did not made money in trading. all are open to contact me if they have any doubt in following my methods.

my second request to these shadow critics give me a more powerful intraday method which can compete with volatility technique, give me a more powerful pair trade method which produce more accurate result than my beta decoupling, index decoupling and alpha hedge method. give me a single powerful mathematical technique of option trading which produce more accurate result than the 22 option tricks i explained in my literature.
 

Rish

Well-Known Member
#15
I throw a challange to Ranjan, if you have guts, post your calls, i will also post my calls, let us debate.

All looted calculations from Europe website and Gann methods, modified here and there and selling scrap product.

Nothing is free in this earth, i know, but, we should be honest enough when we are selling any product.

My challange is open to Ranjan, can u accept ! ! ! !
 

jahan

Well-Known Member
#16
Hello,

@ Mastermind,

yes,ur right in one of his pdf he tell about SBIN trade.....what iam telling is that based on one trade we can't judge a strategy....he has to provide past real trade results to be able to judge his strategy....

he needs to do the research for exits..... as he done for entries and for various methods....then i may consider his strategies.(its doesn't effect him whether i consider or not but effect me a lot as a trader)

@soumyaranjanin

Its effect u...do u think that these negative feedback in previous posts from various members will work in ur favour.

see iam not saying that all ur methods are not valuable...what iam saying that ur methods only concentrate on entries.....but the trading result greatly depend on exits and risk-management /position sizing.u need to specify a particular method(specific) for exit for every strategy u have.

Show/prove.... me where u explained about money management/risk management which is very critical to any business.

i can prove u by entering randomly in any market..and make profits with proper position sizing and exit rules.(by flipping a coin for long and short).the only condition is... it is to be liquid enough.

i know ur a excel spreedsheet expert u can try ur own by entering randomely in any liquid market and apply a specific exit rule...u will see the result.

Exits are more important than entries...bcoz exits only tell u whether ur in profit or loss...exit rules needs to same for every trade.(not T1 FOR ONE trade and T2 for another.....and so on).

for example u tell to one of ur attendee "yes u can exit the trade by using some kind of trailing stoploss".then just don't give those T1,t2,t3..just be specific when come to exit.(so that confusion can't arise)

see i am not telling all these things to prove u wrong....i am just telling what i feel.

Regards,
 

mastermind007

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#17
Jahan

Can you actually explain (ideally with an example) on what you think that his material was lacking. I honestly do not understand what you are saying. Panda did show calculations of numbers and did call them target/exit prices before he went on to narrate the trade.

The way I look at it is, there are lot more snake-oil trainers in this industry. I've met few of 'em. Best sales pitch I ever heard was: I'll be able to make 5000 Rs per day in about 15 days after his training (That trainer sure made 5000 off me). I've come a long way since then and did have one 3500/day which took years.

Panda's was the first free book that I found that detailed steps to some degree and you could verify his calculation by creating Excel. His free book was not complete (understandable) and he openly admitted that it was not complete (great).

I did not join course from Panda and the reasons were more personal on my end then Panda.

Just like every other trainer, He has every right to claim of being a trader even if he trades 1 lousy share a year. Volumes/ Profit are not at all important as long as he is honest about training when he is training!!!

IMHO, Whether he trades or not is somewhat secondary to query on whether he can teach someone to trade or not?

My experience is that most really good traders do not like to share secrets.



P.S. I think I did attach the image of his book on this thread but it seems to have vanished. Did mods delete it?
 
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jahan

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#18
Jahan

Can you actually explain (ideally with an example) on what you think that his material was lacking. I honestly do not understand what you are saying. Panda did show calculations of numbers and did call them target/exit prices before he went on to narrate the trade.

The way I look at it is, there are lot more snake-oil trainers in this industry. I've met few of 'em. Best sales pitch I ever heard was: I'll be able to make 5000 Rs per day in about 15 days after his training (That trainer sure made 5000 off me). I've come a long way since then and did have one 3500/day which took years.

Panda's was the first free book that I found that detailed steps to some degree and you could verify his calculation by creating Excel. His free book was not complete (understandable) and he openly admitted that it was not complete (great).

I did not join course from Panda and the reasons were more personal on my end then Panda.

Just like every other trainer, He has every right to claim of being a trader even if he trades 1 lousy share a year. Volumes/ Profit are not at all important as long as he is honest about training when he is training!!!

IMHO, Whether he trades or not is somewhat secondary to query on whether he can teach someone to trade or not?

My experience is that most really good traders do not like to share secrets.



P.S. I think I did attach the image of his book on this thread but it seems to have vanished. Did mods delete it?
hello,

ur right from ur perspective...and iam right from my perspective....and panda right from his perspective....nothing wrong here...

i agree with the highlighted statement.

Regards,
 

mastermind007

Well-Known Member
#20
Jahan

Can you actually explain (ideally with an example) on what you think that his material was lacking. I honestly do not understand what you are saying. Panda did show calculations .....
Jahan ,,,, can you please also answer this ... I am repeating for easy reference
 

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