TA course by Precision Technicals

kaly422000

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#11
every profession need a timeframe. like a doctor need years to experise.
here is also sud start with academic period and then aplication period( with very small exposure or paper trading) and then one sud try to build up his own strateji and setup
sud not depend on else anyone.s strateji and stick to ur strateji and sud not hear any noise.
in TA THE FIRST LESSEN is everything priced in the value of the scrips,indices or option.
SO U NEED NOT TO DEPEND ON ANY NEWS ETC if u beleve in technical analysis.
 
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I am working for software company, I am not going to make money by promoting them.:rofl: That's not my business.

I thought, I will share my experience with people here. Kiran Jadhav, CEO of Precision is writing his column in Pune's Sakal news paper for more than 10-12 yrs.
My final point is, you need some expert - may be Dr.C.K.Narayan, Kiran, Pravin Mokashi, Rajat Bose, Ashish Kelkar to provide support. You need some one who can help to confirm your approach, analysis. Yes, I know all of them are charging for software or tips or training. Motilal Oswal, Angel or someone is also charging high brokerage because of better tips. One can trade on with any broker, he can be Indiabulls, Angel, ICICI, Sharekhan, Angel, RKG, Zerodha, Reliancemoney as long as your trade is executed on NSE or BSE. :thumb:

What matters is
Right knowledge, right infrastructure. Infrastructure is something broker can help. Brokers like Motilal, ICICI, Angel trying to give both Tips + trading platform. Brokers like RKG, Zerodha are giving plain trading platform and charge very less.
We can also take free tips from all TV channels.

If we don't want to pay high brokerage, software cost, training cost and just want to make money then we have very high expectations.By just Placing order on NEAT / ODIN for buy and sell can not make us rich. You need to know when to place what type of order. One way is to do systematic research based on fundamentals & TA etc. Second to keep following tips and all news channels and go gamble.

Choice is ours.
This is good information to share in a community like this. Thanks
 

alroyraj

Well-Known Member
#13
Yes, I am working on developing some program also. I agree that one can not learn TA in 2 days as whole. Self learning is best, Yes, I agree. The point is in self learning you will always get confused as there are opp. views on every thing. Finally you will reinvent the wheel. I have already paid for cost of self learning in last few years. Every mistake in market costs you few hundred / thousand/ lac rupees. If you want to learn on own, definitely you can. After learning all, you need to have some capital left to try that knowledge in markets.
In my opinion, if you count hrs spend on reading docs, articles, posts, blogs, watching ET, Zee news, bloomberg, CNBC, yahoo finance, news papers, weekly magzines etc, you will find it more than few hundred hrs. In software, we get paid for every hr, say 10$ per hr - 500 INR per hr. When you spend 100 hrs by reading/watching all about stock market related stuff, you lost business income of 50 K INR and what you get is not sure whether its going up or down, which stock to buy. I have ended my self in many times, morning 10 AM bought nifty future/ option with call, at 12:30-1 pm (most dangerous time), so called global cues came in, market fallen badly and I am in loss. All experts on news channels give you postmortem report in evening. One lot option lot in nifty costs 5-8 K and one lot in Futures costs 30 K. You take at least 2-6 lots and if you go wrong, it takes only 1-3 hrs to lose 3-10 K INR.
Then the outcome is loss of business 50K + loss in trade 10 K = 60 K loss in one go.
The numbers may vary trade to trade. I found training courses from BSE / NSE costs not more than 3-7 K for 2 days. Precision / ICICI charges around 5500-7500. It's dirt cheap for me instead trying few lots in markets and making losses. I am not promoting precision here, all I am saying cost of learning thru web is very high against proper training course by institutes. No institute will teach us 100%, this is very same as our BE engineering college does not teach us all 100% of engineering but they provide approach and foundation. You can build your framework on top of it. You don't need to be become Charles Darwin or Charles Dow again, Class room training is best because you can ask questions and get answers. Cost of class room training is quite less in India. If you are NSE certified, NCFM, BSE certified definitely you are better than others. You can test your knowledge against the exams by NSE and BSE.
It helps.

When I attended BSE trainings, BSE ex President conducted classes for fundamental analysis. He shared many simple things, (you will find them here on traderji too, but need to spend at least 30 hrs), he given examples too. Interestingly he is no longer broker now, neither his son.

when I attended ICICI Direct Institute's course on FNO, I learn practicals of options. Now I know buying OTM call/put in 3rd week is nothing but losing money.
This training course cost me 5500/- but saved my one lac for sure.

It makes perfect sense to spend money on proper trainings than just reading news, posts, blogs, news papers, TV channels, books.
Most of the courses even NCFM are still quite theoretical like B.E.
One needs to have experience of being in the market.
AN important point you have mentioned is that you experienced for yourself the knowledge imparted by the Precision technicals head via his newspaper column before you got convinced. If you need to learn from someone one needs to find a suitable teacher.
Also if one can learn disciplined money management from the right sources that itself is worth the course fee. One to one interaction is quite important i agree.
People try many things to get the info they need to trade such as Open interest info, rise or fall of OI in a particular futures contract over a week,charting features. And everyone tries hard to find a broker that provides it. Then they try Amibroker/Chartnexus/iCharts etc. The choices are limited. Then a suitable data feed. It all takes sizeable effort to find the tools suitable for oneself. Still many are averse to trying out diff softwares because of doubts on the support they provide.
 

oilman5

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#14
YES, Mr Bhagirath is one of the best to learn from.Recently BSE trying to teach portfolio with longterm view...........26.27 th nov @9900/-..........but its worth.
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rpc

Active Member
#15
They charge 9927.00/- for two days. I booked 2 months in advance so got 20% discount. Here are details. http://www.precisiontechnicals.com/technical_analysis_shedules_charges.asp I am not aware of any online course by them. The reason I gone for class room training is, it can save your 100 hrs of reading posts and articles. You can ask questions, many others do ask, so you can learn from other's mistakes.

BTW: They run PMS, minimum ticket size is 1 Cr. I was told that they are managing around 1100 Cr under PMS.
Secondly on brokers side, I must say, I also made money on Motilal Oswal's calls. They give good positional calls.
Mr Kanitkar
Thanks a lot for the additional information.Pls keep updating us with your trading experiences post precision classes.If possible pls quote actual trades which u undertake on the basis of signals generated by precision technicals software.
Thanks a lot
 

mrkanitkar

Well-Known Member
#16
Mr Kanitkar
Thanks a lot for the additional information.Pls keep updating us with your trading experiences post precision classes.If possible pls quote actual trades which u undertake on the basis of signals generated by precision technicals software.
Thanks a lot
Based on knowledge I learn, I came up with following trades. Note: Precision did not given any tips on following. These are my own. I used their software to calculate targets and timeline.

1.Reliance - up flag - 21 Oct 2010, cmp 1081, stop loss 1064, target 1120-30, in 5 days - FNO. risk = 17, reward= 49, ratio= 2.88- worked.
2. on oct 27. Hind Oil- cmp - 251, target 270, time - 8 days. SL - 243. risk - 8, reward= 20. ratio= 2.5 %.- Up flag. - worked.
 
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They charge 9927.00/- for two days. I booked 2 months in advance so got 20% discount. Here are details. http://www.precisiontechnicals.com/technical_analysis_shedules_charges.asp I am not aware of any online course by them. The reason I gone for class room training is, it can save your 100 hrs of reading posts and articles. You can ask questions, many others do ask, so you can learn from other's mistakes.

BTW: They run PMS, minimum ticket size is 1 Cr. I was told that they are managing around 1100 Cr under PMS.
Secondly on brokers side, I must say, I also made money on Motilal Oswal's calls. They give good positional calls.
Do they have licence no from SEBI for PMS. If yes , what is their licence No.
We can verify from the SEBI Site
 

rpc

Active Member
#20
Thanks Mr Kanitkar for sharing your trades.It is good to know both trades resulted in profit.If you come across any loss making trades pls share those also esp I am interested in knowing if you get any stop loss price through your s/w and how much stop loss in percentage term of price,so we know how much max capital we will loose on the trade.
You have done an excellent job by giving your trades.Pls continue to do.Ignore the hecklers.