Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex

I can help you with stock chart reading

Discuss I can help you with stock chart reading at the Position Trading Stocks within the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex; Dear VV, Could you tell us what exactly you mean by "Pulling up,will set up ...


Go Back   Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex > THE MARKETS > Equities > Stocks & Shares > Position Trading Stocks

Notices


Advertise Here

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Sponsored Links
  #431  
Old 24th May 2006, 08:53 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 246
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
rangarajan is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 20
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Dear VV,
Could you tell us what exactly you mean by "Pulling up,will set up as short".Does it mean that one could short the scrip,if the price goes up at R levels or lower pivot levels & these are potential stocks for Shorting in the day's to come?
ranga
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #432  
Old 24th May 2006, 09:37 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,748
Thanks: 1,121
Thanked 1,797 Times in 770 Posts
Czar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant future
Reputation: 1851
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

I think today's morning upmove was the oppurtunity..
Reply With Quote
  #433  
Old 24th May 2006, 10:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
vvonteru is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 26
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Quote:
Originally Posted by rangarajan
Dear VV,
Could you tell us what exactly you mean by "Pulling up,will set up as short".Does it mean that one could short the scrip,if the price goes up at R levels or lower pivot levels & these are potential stocks for Shorting in the day's to come?
ranga
I was expecting some more updays. Can't imagine how negative things have turn out. Hopefully, things will be better.

With the expectation of updays, people will try to bail out. If there are no updays sooner or later, the reaction will be more severe. I don't believe in that case right now. About shorting, I do trading in Geogit. They don't offer shorting , keeping the stock more than a day. The only other option is to do options. I am not in options at. U can (should) use this line of thinking in day trading. Because, we want to use the direction of easy path to sail our boat. In market conditions like these, avoid taking long signals when market pulls up in day trading. Rather take shorting signals when the market is set for shorting.
Reply With Quote
  #434  
Old 24th May 2006, 11:14 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 84
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
copperdesk is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 20
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Vvonteru Sir,

How are you? Can you please suggest me a good book on TA? Traderji.com has very rich content about this subject just because of you and other seniors, but all this are available in frangmented form.

Yesterday i brought "Stock Market - Technical Analysis Of The Financial Markets" by Mr. John J. Murphy (Trading Advisor "Meryl Lynch", Senior TA, CNBC for seven years.) Is this book good? or any better is available?

Regards.

CopperDesk.
Reply With Quote
  #435  
Old 25th May 2006, 12:56 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,748
Thanks: 1,121
Thanked 1,797 Times in 770 Posts
Czar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant futureCzar has a brilliant future
Reputation: 1851
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Quote:
Originally Posted by vvonteru
I was expecting some more updays. Can't imagine how negative things have turn out. Hopefully, things will be better.

With the expectation of updays, people will try to bail out. If there are no updays sooner or later, the reaction will be more severe. I don't believe in that case right now. About shorting, I do trading in Geogit. They don't offer shorting , keeping the stock more than a day. The only other option is to do options. I am not in options at. U can (should) use this line of thinking in day trading. Because, we want to use the direction of easy path to sail our boat. In market conditions like these, avoid taking long signals when market pulls up in day trading. Rather take shorting signals when the market is set for shorting.
I think the more upside dint happen because the natural fall was stopped & the market is being artificially propped by auth. This could I believe make matters worst...
Reply With Quote
  #436  
Old 25th May 2006, 01:15 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
vvonteru is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 26
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Quote:
Originally Posted by copperdesk
Vvonteru Sir,

How are you? Can you please suggest me a good book on TA? Traderji.com has very rich content about this subject just because of you and other seniors, but all this are available in frangmented form.

Yesterday i brought "Stock Market - Technical Analysis Of The Financial Markets" by Mr. John J. Murphy (Trading Advisor "Meryl Lynch", Senior TA, CNBC for seven years.) Is this book good? or any better is available?

Regards.

CopperDesk.
I have not read it. My gurus are Elder and Dave Landry. Elder goes through basics. Thats the foundation. Dave lays out the different rooms of the building on the foundation. He gives various patterns that are realistic. For day trading, use Marcel Link's book - High Probability Trading.

I see that U have started a new thread on day trading. No matter which book U go, no body will layout the methodology and money management techniques (I think Elder talks about a little bit, different from mine though). What I gave U is the one I followed. It is practical and U will not find it anywhere in any book.

For day trading, U don't need TA. U don't have time for TA. What U need is identifying sleek entry and exit points. U only need EMAs and MACD (again based on EMAs). Don't see double bottom, trending lines, divergence etc etc in a daily chart. They don't work. They work on lot of data. More data, more effective these indicators and Ur analysis. In a day, there is too less data for them to work.

That is the issue with these indicators. Beginners struggle with them. They look at all these indicators and consider them as toys or candies. They don't know what to do with them. They don't understand that the complexity is not with the indicator but, in its application. U got to know where and when to use them. More importantly, be consistent with their use, in getting Ur signals to trade. When a signal is not given for a day, don't go for a new indicator to get signal.
Reply With Quote
  #437  
Old 25th May 2006, 01:26 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
vvonteru is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 26
Default Re: Mr Vvonteru

Quote:
Originally Posted by kumar7
What do you think of India cements and Essar oil? Do you think they will recover; It is probably not the right time to buy.

Kumar
India cements
-- Nicely set for short. Going down.

Essar Oil
--Doesn't look good either. But, U got lot of supports.

The market has to find its way up. Until then, all the stocks look bad. We don't want to buy them either.
Reply With Quote
  #438  
Old 25th May 2006, 01:36 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 84
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
copperdesk is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 20
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Vvonteru Sir,

Thank you. I'll try get one these at the moment. You just spoke my heart out. This is EXACTLY the way i think about day dratrading. It is great to know that i'm on right path. I'll strongly follow your instructions.

One more thing i'd like to add sir, that papertrading is somewhat counter effective. It has one most important thing missing and that is emotion. I've tried paper trade. But when i started with real money two major changes i felt with my emotions. One is fear and the other is greed. If one can control these two then he could be Warren Buffet of day trading. Isn't it?

Salute Sir.

CopperDesk.
Reply With Quote
  #439  
Old 25th May 2006, 03:57 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
vvonteru is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 26
Default Re: I can help you with stock chart reading

Quote:
Originally Posted by copperdesk
Vvonteru Sir,

Thank you. I'll try get one these at the moment. You just spoke my heart out. This is EXACTLY the way i think about day dratrading. It is great to know that i'm on right path. I'll strongly follow your instructions.

One more thing i'd like to add sir, that papertrading is somewhat counter effective. It has one most important thing missing and that is emotion. I've tried paper trade. But when i started with real money two major changes i felt with my emotions. One is fear and the other is greed. If one can control these two then he could be Warren Buffet of day trading. Isn't it?

Salute Sir.

CopperDesk.
Yes. U are right. But, most of them struggle to make money in day trading. Leave alone getting greedy. For my friend with whom I developed this methodology, he has problem with greed. Our methodology worked fine. But, he would never get happy with the money he was making. Lets say he makes Rs5000 on a day, he wouldn't quit on that day. He would continue to trade and end up with Rs500 at the end of the day.

He had also problem with position sizing. They were giving unrealistic losses when stops get hit. And sometimes he moved the stops hoping the stock would come back. The biggest problem he had was that he was applying EOD TA to day trading. He would confused with both. The reason I point these is, these are common issues U come across in day trading.

I don't know when U started day trading. If U are starting, my advise is to reduce position size. Smaller position eliminates fear and provides objective thinking. U will stop thinking about money and think what is right thing to do. Money should flow as an after thought. Slowly, U will see things clearly and develop Ur own method for trading (lets say fine tuning existing method). Thats what I call Ur edge. Till then, do it small. So, that Ur loses are minimal.

Last edited by vvonteru; 25th May 2006 at 04:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #440  
Old 25th May 2006, 09:05 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: bangalore
Posts: 58
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
kumar7 is on a distinguished road
Reputation: 20
Default Re: Mr Vvonteru

Quote:
Originally Posted by vvonteru
India cements
-- Nicely set for short. Going down.

Essar Oil
--Doesn't look good either. But, U got lot of supports.

The market has to find its way up. Until then, all the stocks look bad. We don't want to buy them either.

Thanks for your time and comments!

Kumar
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Reply

Bookmarks


Advertise Here


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads for: I can help you with stock chart reading
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tape reading susheel04 Technical Analysis 17 6th January 2009 08:24 PM
The Art of Tape Reading- part 1 sh50 Technical Analysis 2 3rd January 2009 02:51 PM
Down Load of Data for Meta Stock or FC Chart Jayesh Software 7 16th December 2008 08:44 PM
Tape reading for forex. gamebit4x Introductions 0 4th March 2006 11:22 PM
General reading for traders CreditViolet General Chit Chat 4 27th October 2004 12:22 AM


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 10:53 AM.

Indemnity, Disclaimer & Disclosure Notice:
• By visiting Traderji.com you indicate your acceptance of our Forum Rules Disclaimer & Disclosure and indemnify Traderji.com, its associates and related parties of all claims howsoever resulting from the usage of the forum.
Disclaimer: Trading or investing in stocks & commodities is a high risk activity. Any action you choose to take in the markets is totally your own responsibility. Traderji.com will not be liable for any, direct or indirect, consequential or incidental damages or loss arising out of the use of this information.
Disclosure: The information in this forum is neither an offer to sell nor solicitation to buy any of the securities mentioned herein. The writers may or may not be trading in the securities mentioned.
• All names or products mentioned are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners.
General Content Disclaimer Notice:
In light of our policy of encouraging candid, open exchanges of views and the rapid distribution of information originating from many sources, Traderji.com cannot determine the accuracy of information that may be uploaded to the forum. Opinions, advice and all other information expressed by participants in discussions are those of the author. You rely on such information at your own risk. You are urged to seek professional advice for specific, individual situations and not rely solely on advice or opinions given in the discussions. Since Traderji.com is an open and free discussion forum, any comments made by members of this forum in their posts reflect their own views and not of the owner or administrator of Traderji.com. Thus the owner/administrator indemnify themselves of all claims whatsoever and will not be liable or responsible for any members comments/views in this forum Traderji.com. If you find any objectionable or offensive posts made by members of this forum which you would like to bring to our notice for removal then please Contact Us.
 


Copyright © 2001 - 2008, Traderji.com All Rights Reserved.

Recommended Websites - www.TradersEdgeIndia.com - www.TradingPicks.com - www.MasterOfTrading.com