My first Trade Executed: Advise

cool_kk

Active Member
#1
Hi

I have traded options for first time,please advise

I traded from icicdirect

1 lot--50--NIFTY
strike price:5600
premimum: 270
Investment: 13500

Break Even point: 5330 - brokerage

Today's 5600 put is going at 300 premimum

Am I in profit if I square off ?

What is the max profit I can make if I hold and market goes down.

I think my max loss is limited to 13500, please correct if I am wrong.

Experts please advise what could be max profit and loss.

Also, if I market goes up and premimum comes to 200, Can I square off then my loss will be 70*50=3500 , Is this correct ?

Thanks
Cool_kk
 

rajeabc

Well-Known Member
#2
Hi

I have traded options for first time,please advise

I traded from icicdirect

1 lot--50--NIFTY
strike price:5600
premimum: 270
Investment: 13500

Break Even point: 5330 - brokerage

Today's 5600 put is going at 300 premimum

Am I in profit if I square off ?

What is the max profit I can make if I hold and market goes down.

I think my max loss is limited to 13500, please correct if I am wrong.

Experts please advise what could be max profit and loss.

Also, if I market goes up and premimum comes to 200, Can I square off then my loss will be 70*50=3500 , Is this correct ?

Thanks
Cool_kk
Hi KK ,
you are right if you square off those now you will get (305-270)*50 - premium .
Your max loss is limited to 13500 . You can square off them whenever you want before they expire (last Thursday July 2010).
Max Proft could be 5296*50 or 1736%
Max loss = 13500 .

I am sure you would have done your home work before you have started option trading. Because they will start decaying as time pass.
Important level of Nifty to watch , support 5260 (below this can go to 5100) and res at 5360.

good luck.
 

cool_kk

Active Member
#3
Hi KK ,
you are right if you square off those now you will get (305-270)*50 - premium .
Your max loss is limited to 13500 . You can square off them whenever you want before they expire (last Thursday July 2010).
Max Proft could be 5296*50 or 1736%
Max loss = 13500 .

I am sure you would have done your home work before you have started option trading. Because they will start decaying as time pass.
Important level of Nifty to watch , support 5260 (below this can go to 5100) and res at 5360.

good luck.

Thanks a ton

One last question:
Right now I am in profit or loss

As per this formula , I am in loss:

(305-270)*50 - premium .

35*50-13500

1750-13500= -ve value

Also Max profit 5296*50 or 1736%

I don't understand profit in numbers.. Can you explain ?
I guess if market goes down I will be in profit But is there a level after
which I can say this is MAX i can make.

Thanks
 

cool_kk

Active Member
#4
Thanks a ton

One last question:
Right now I am in profit or loss

As per this formula , I am in loss:

(305-270)*50 - premium .

35*50-13500

1750-13500= -ve value

Also Max profit 5296*50 or 1736%

I don't understand profit in numbers.. Can you explain ?
I guess if market goes down I will be in profit But is there a level after
which I can say this is MAX i can make.

Thanks
Also

Icicidirect portfolio details show this


Contract --OPT-NIFTY-29-Jul-2010-5600-PE
Trade Flow---BUY
Open Position---
Qty --50
Value--13,520.00
LTP -----305.00
Charges --112.51
Profit/Loss ---
Unrealized--> 15250 (positive)
Realized---> -13632.51 (Negative)

Can anyone explains me..
 

sadiq

Active Member
#5
Also

Icicidirect portfolio details show this


Contract --OPT-NIFTY-29-Jul-2010-5600-PE
Trade Flow---BUY
Open Position---
Qty --50
Value--13,520.00
LTP -----305.00
Charges --112.51
Profit/Loss ---
Unrealized--> 15250 (positive)
Realized---> -13632.51 (Negative)

Can anyone explains me..

you realised -13632
your unrealised = 15250
so as of now your profit = 15250-13632
if you square off now you need to deduct brokerage around 100 rs
 

rajeabc

Well-Known Member
#6
Thanks a ton

One last question:
Right now I am in profit or loss

As per this formula , I am in loss:

(305-270)*50 - premium .

35*50-13500

1750-13500= -ve value

Also Max profit 5296*50 or 1736%

I don't understand profit in numbers.. Can you explain ?
I guess if market goes down I will be in profit But is there a level after
which I can say this is MAX i can make.

Thanks
KK cool,

you are already in profit..

profit =(current price of option- you paid for option)* number ( 50 in one lot )
=(317-270)*50 =2350
NEt profit = 2350-charge(~165)(for one lot)= 2185

is it fine
 

cool_kk

Active Member
#7
KK cool,

you are already in profit..

profit =(current price of option- you paid for option)* number ( 50 in one lot )
=(317-270)*50 =2350
NEt profit = 2350-charge(~165)(for one lot)= 2185

is it fine
Thanks

Is it good to keep the option till expire or clear it before is best .
 

rajeabc

Well-Known Member
#8
Thanks

Is it good to keep the option till expire or clear it before is best .
KK , my advise would be for you to go thorugh some good resource on Option to understand how they are evaluated . Option will have 2 value 1: INtrinsic value and 2: Time value . 2nd time value start decaying with time and much faster near expiry . Normally it would be a good practice to set a target to book some profit and keep doing that on regular basis . YOu don't know the market , it might wipe all your profit in one go.
 

cool_kk

Active Member
#9
KK , my advise would be for you to go thorugh some good resource on Option to understand how they are evaluated . Option will have 2 value 1: INtrinsic value and 2: Time value . 2nd time value start decaying with time and much faster near expiry . Normally it would be a good practice to set a target to book some profit and keep doing that on regular basis . YOu don't know the market , it might wipe all your profit in one go.
Hey.. I read a good article explaining

http://www.investorwords.com/2587/intrinsic_value.html

So if my stike price is 5600 and marketprice/spot price of the underliner(5300) then Intrinsic vale is 300
300*50=15000

So how to get intrinsic value,it automatically comes @ expiry or we need to exercise.

I have seen in starting of the contracts Intrinsic and Time Value is very close.
 
#10
Mr. Cool;

On reading your posts, I find that what you are doing is not really cool. You will burn your money pretty soon. Instead, deal only in cash, make some profit and use those profits to invest in futures and options.
 

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