BankNifty No Loss Hedging

pannet1

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#11
If you expect the market to go down then strategy 1.

If you expect the market to go up then strategy 2.

Weekly option price increases much faster than monthly.
Wow.

Regarding the diagonal, I was wondering why my weekly options that are sold are quickly getting into Loss if the underlying moves against me.
 

travi

Well-Known Member
#12
The above was for thread posters quick moves, payoff at expiration is different.
 

pannet1

Well-Known Member
#13
Arre Bhai, kindly don't just refer books/links, run your strategy through decent options simulator.
Can you point me to one.
As per yesterday, if strategy were to be executed,

As far as direction is concerned,
sell near, buy far: One has 30pt upside window to make money (around Inr. 30) after which loss kicks in. (For BN, isn't this dumb, I might as well scalp)

Buy near, sell far: Anything more than 30pt move in any direction and you make money.

Any delta neutral, direction neutral strategy works in funny way.
Eg: long straddle requires large move in either side to make money else loss
and short straddle prefers to stay in the middle for max profit and large moves have unlimited loss.

Yesterday, IV was around 36-38% for BN, today its 56-58%, is this impact understood ? :D

Again, when it is 1:1 lot, there are differences in movement of price as per MTM.
So if sell earns 10 points from theta, the buy would have lost 30 points in theta. How do you balance that?
I need to understand a lot of things. I am surviving now only because in a month at least one directional bet gains for me.
 
#14
My first post in this thread was in reply to the question from the op, where I said that weekies move faster than monthlies and you replied
The statement Weekly option price increases much faster than monthly.
is incorrect
both have the same delta & move the same in terms of points.
You are wrong. The weeklies move faster and I proved it here.
http://www.netpicks.com/monthly-or-weekly-options-trade/
The only person who won't know this is one who doesn't trade.

You're emphasizing something out of context.
For a directional neutral strategy, your trying to dictate direction.
That's not the right approach.
Why change the topic?
The weeklies move faster than monthlies. Yes or no?



Op.
Start your trading software and add ATM strike of next week and end of month. Watch how fast they move wrt each other.
There is no free lunch in the market. The high time decay of the weekly is compensated by high gamma.

Wow.

Regarding the diagonal, I was wondering why my weekly options that are sold are quickly getting into Loss if the underlying moves against me.
Weeklies can be very difficult to manage in a diagonal. Better to trade monthlies instead.
 

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