hi to all

#2
Nitin, I had once seen a good post about becoming a sub broker. here is the info

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First Do Not Touch Motilal Oswal, Even If They Are The Last Broker On This Planet.

Now Coming To Other Things What A Prospective Sub-Broker Should Look For Before Deciding Who To Tie Knot With.

1) Must Not Agree To Pay Deposit, Instead Any Deposit Should Be Given As Shares or Bonds, Also Negotiate The Deposit.

2) Now Coming To Brokerage Sharing, Instead Of Brokerage Sharing, Negotiate For Minimum Required By The Broker So That Anything Charged Over & Above Is Yours. Putting It Point Wise As To What You Should Settle For Broker To Keep.
a) Cash Deliivery 0.10% Minimum 2 Paise
b) Cash Square Up Same Day 0.001% One Side Minimum 2 Paise
c) F&O Delivery 0.01% Both Legs Minimum 2 Paise
d) F&O Square Up Same Day 0.01% One Side Only Minimum 2 Paise

3) Now What You Could Charge Your Clients

a) Cash Delivery 0.30 - 0.50%
b) Cash Square Up Same Day 0.04 - 0.08%
c) F&O Delivery 0.03 - 0.08% Both Legs
d) F&O Square Up Same Day 0.03 - 0.08% One Side Only
e) Minimum 4 - 6 Paise For All The Above

4) Commodities You Will Need To Check With Somebody Else To Know The Rates Or Do Some Research On Your Own.

5) SEBI Registration Is 20000/- For Both BSE & NSE (10 & 10) Registration Valid For 5 Years From The Date On The Certificate Of Registration

6) Eligibilty Is Minimum HSC (Am Not Sure) You Will Need To Check On This, Alternatively 3 or 5 Years Experience With A Broker Incase You Don't Meet The Educational Eligibility (You Will Need A Certificate From The Broker For Your Service For Submission)

7) Do Not Agree To Pay Anything To The Broker Besides The Negotiated Deposit (Either Money or Shares Whatever The Case Maybe)

8) Other Charges Asked By The Broker Are As Follows:
a) Back Office Software One Time Charge
b) CTCL IDs Depending On The Number Of Segments You Want
c) Do Not Agree To Pay The Annual Charges For CTCL IDs

9) If Printed Stationery Is Being Provided By The Broker For You To Print The Contracts & Monthly DP Statement & Etc. To e Given To Your Clients, Do Not Agree To Pay For The Stationery

10) Reasons For All The Above Points Can Be Cited As Your Investment In Infrastructure (Premises, Staff, Phones, Internet Computers & Dealer Terminals, Printer, Consumables, A/C, & Other Incidenals Such As Snacks, Tea, Coffee & Whatever As Your Part Of The Investment To Get The Business Started, Therefore Any Thing Else Required Such As CTCL IDs (Reasonably Upto 2), Back Office Software, Stationery Should Be Brokers Investment For Their Earnings From Your Brokerage Operation, Quite Reasonable In My Opinion, Now Is As Good A Time As Any To Drive A Hard Bargain. Since The Business Is Down Almost 70-80% For Most of Them (Now You Know Why MOSL Is Putting Ads For 'Business Associates')

11) Caring For Your Business & Its Growth Will Entirely Depend On Your Handling Of Clients.

12) Do Not Recommend Scrips Just For The Sake Of Earning Brokerage, If You Think The Market Is Not Right For Investment Tell Your Clients To Stay Away & That You Will Let Them Know When Is The Right Time To Start With Investments.

13) Brokerage Research & Their Team Recommending Scrips To BUY, You Will Need To Put Them Through Your Own Stress Test, To Gauge The Quality Of Their Research, Do Not Blindly Recommend Whatever Recommendations Are Given To You By Your Broker, Unless You Have Developed A Certain Amount Of Faith In Their Research.

14) Drive The Bargain Harder By Free Trading & Demat Accounts For Your Clients, You Will Be Surprised How Easily They Will Agree To That With A Wee Bit Of Resistance..

15) It Is Upto You If You Want To Charge The Clients For Account Opening & Keep The Charges For Yourself. ( I Have No View On That)

16) Do Not Get Into Any Kind Of Hard Cash Dealing, Everything Is Always Without Exception By Cheque.

17) Clients Who Look Upto You For Investment Ideas, Worry About Their Capital First, Before Your Own (This Will Keep You In Good Stead In The Long Term)

18) Ideal Mix For The Business Should Be 70-30 (F&O - Cash Respectively)
 

nitin30

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#3
HI blitz,
im vry much thankfull to u, after gettin such valuable information wht i was seekin for, affter hearin form u, i think u can giv me a idea abt a good broker, i hav selected mf global, plz say ur wrds on dem..thanks a lot....waitin for ur rply..!!
 
#4
I am sorry Nitin, I am myself not in this field as sub broker. So my knowledge is limited to what I have read. That I have already pasted.

Wish I could have helped more
 
#7
hi blitz,

after searchin for good brokers im cunfused btwn two dey r MF GLOBAL and India Infoline....can u help for which 1 i should go ??? from view of sub brokership.....
 
#9
Re: fraud by companies

This is to bring to your kind information as to how a Company cheats and deprives its shareholders. The facts being as follows :

1. I am a shareholder of M/s. Steelage Industries Ltd. since 1987.
2. During Oct - Dec 2000 two companies M/s. Gunnebo AB and Assa Abloy of Sweden made an open offer to acquire shares of Steelage @ Rs. 272 per share.
3. By a letter dated 5.3.2010 Gunnebo India Ltd informs about their scheme of arrangement with its subsidiary M/s. Security Equipment Manufacturers Ltd and just enclosed/forwarded an OPTION FORM without any mention of such form in their aforesaid letter.
4. The OPTION FORM Para (1) states "Please ignore and do not return the OPTION FORM to the company if you intend to receive payment as the consideration towards the sale and transfer of the equity shares held by you".
4. Only from the option form it is evident that the name of Steelage Industries Ltd has been changed to M/s. Gunnebo India Ltd.
5. The OPTION FORM does not state the price the company intends to pay for such purchase of shares.
6. I have never come across any such document where a shareholder has to give his consent if he wants to retain his shareholding.
7. No offer document or any other information received from the company for such purchase of shares,
8. No Annual Report or Balance Sheet or dividend or any piece of information received from the Company for the last 10 years.
9. Even after the OPTION FORM duly filled in and forwarded to the company in due time, the company has forwarded a Pay Advice and Cheque for purchase of the said shares @ Rs 10 per share.
10. It is unethical and unjustified that the shares which the company had proposed to purchase at a price of Rs. 272 per share during Oct - Dec 2000 are being forcibly acquired by the company at the rate of Rs. 10 per share from small shareholders without any prior notice/information to the shareholders.


I will be thankful if any one of you can suggest a remedial measure for such fraud by a company. I would also be interested to knowif any of you are also shareholders of Steelage and how did you deal with this fraud.

Thanks