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Old 16th January 2008, 10:51 AM
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I am new to share trading. I want to know how companies are alloting shares, while they have more applications. Because i have applied two IPO's last month. But companies not alloted the shares for me. I got back my money. I don´t know why they didn´t allot me the shares. What are the allotment procedures normally companies do? Can anyone help me to answer this?
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Its purly on luck... its lottry system...your luck didn't work...keep applying you will get some IPO some day...
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I think the following details help you to understand How the IPO works !!!!!


Who can play the game of IPO ?

Three classes of investors can bid for the shares:

Qualified Institutional Buyers: QIBs include mutual funds and Foreign Institutional Investors. At least 50% of the shares are reserved for this category.
· Retail investors: Anyone who bids for shares under Rs 50,000 is a retail investor. At least 25% is reserved for this category.

· The balance bids are offered to high networth individuals and employees of the company.



How the game is played?

Individuals who apply for the IPO put in their bids.

The process is transparent. You can check on the issue subscription at the BSE and NSE Web sites.

After evaluating the bid prices, the company will accept the lowest price that will allow it to dispose the entire block of shares. That is called the cut-off price.

Let's take an example.

Number of shares issued by the company = 100.

Price band = Rs 30 - Rs 40.

Now let's check what individuals have bid for.

Bid
Number of shares
Price per share

1
20
Rs 40

2
10
Rs 38

3
20
Rs 37

4
30
Rs 36

5
20
Rs 35

6
20
Rs 33

7
20
Rs 30


The shares will be sold at the Bid 5 price of 20 shares for Rs 35.

Why?

Because Bidders 1 to 5 are willing to pay at least Rs 35 per share.
The total bids from Bidders 1 to 5 ensure all 100 shares will be sold (20 + 10 + 20 + 30 + 20).
The cut-off price is therefore Bid 5's price = Rs 35.

Bidders 1 to 5 get allotments at that price. Bidders 6 and 7 don't get an allotment because their bids are below the cut-off price.



How to make bidding work for you?

Go for the higher price band.

As a retail investor, you don't have to specify an exact price.

Make out a cheque for the number of shares you are applying for at the highest end of the price band. If you are applying for 10 shares, the amount wll be Rs 400 (10 x Rs 40 -- the higher end of the price band).

On allotment, the extra amount paid will be refunded to you. Since the cut-off price is Rs 35, the 10 shares will cost you Rs 350 (10 x Rs 35). The balance Rs 50 will be refunded to you.





How the allotment is done?

The bids are first allotted to the different categories and the over-subscription (more shares applied for than the shares available) in each category is determined.

Retail investors and high networth individuals get allotments on a proportional basis.

Assuming you are a retail investor and have applied for 200 shares in the issue, and the issue is over-subscribed five times in the retail category, you qualify to get 40 shares (200 shares/5).

Sometimes, the over-subscription is huge or the issue is priced so high that you can't really bid for too many shares before the Rs 50,000 limit is reached.

In such cases, allotments are made on the basis of a lottery.

Say a retail investor has applied for 5 shares in an issue, and the retail category has been over-subscribed 10 times, the investor is entitled to half a share.

Since that isn't possible, it may then be decided that every 1 in 2 retail investors will get allotment. The investors are then selected by lottery and the issue allotted on a proportional basis among.

That is why there is no way you can be sure of getting an allotment.



How to make an allotment work for you?

Put in bids in the names of your family members. The problem is, you will need to open demat accounts for them first.

Most regular IPO investors try to calculate how much the issue will be over-subscribed and then put in their bids accordingly.

For instance, if you want 10 shares and feel the retail portion of the issue will be over-subscribed three times, you should bid for 30 shares.

You could also apply separately in the high networth category if you have the money.
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hiiiiiiii..........

U have any idea abt rel power ipo allotment??? which date???

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Within two weeks, suppose by 31 Jan.

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hiiiiiiii..........

U have any idea abt rel power ipo allotment??? which date???

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Junaid

That’s quite encompassing explanation. Great work, mate!

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Most regular IPO investors try to calculate how much the issue will be over-subscribed and then put in their bids accordingly.

For instance, if you want 10 shares and feel the retail portion of the issue will be over-subscribed three times, you should bid for 30 shares.

You could also apply separately in the high networth category if you have the money.
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hi junaid our explantion on ipo allotment was very informative it helped me understand the ipo system better . i am very thankful to u .thanks buddy
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guys..i have a doubt..
i applied for REL Power IPO thru Sharekhan....when we can get the allotment ..and also where the refunded money will go....it will be credited to my bank account or the money will be there in ipo account of sharekhan..plz reply..
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Excellent ... One update needed is that Retail investors can now bid upto Rs. 1,00,000.

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Retail investors: Anyone who bids for shares under Rs 50,000 is a retail investor. At least 25% is reserved for this category.
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