Identifying uptrends and downtrends on Nifty since 1995

#1
Yesterday’s move might have taken a few bears by surprise and now everybody is trying to know if this is a “resumption of long term uptrend ” or just a “bear market rally”.

Let me throw some data at you and see what we come up with.(Rather than a mere guess!)

A close analysis of past market cycles(about 15 years) might provide some answers( with the benefit of hindsight). This might be useful for people who have just seen the 2003-2007 period in the markets.

Dec 1994-Jan 1996: Nifty fell from 1250 levels to 810. A drop of almost 35% in 12 months. The intermediate rallies were never more than 10-15%. So it was a clean downtrend.

Jan 1996- June 1996: NIFTY rose from 810 to 1200 levels in 6 Months. A gain of almost 50% in 6 months. Intermediate corrections of not more than 15% are observed.What needs to be observed here is that market failed to take out the previous market high of 1250. So this might have counted as bear rally for many market participants.

July 1996- Dec 1996: NIFTY fell from 1200 levels to 780 odd levels- a drop of almost 35%. The in between rallies were never more than 10-15%. So it was a clean downtrend.

Dec 1996 - Aug 1997: NIFTY rose from 780 levels to 1300 levels. A again of almost 80% in 8 months with deepest correction of about 30%. This time market took out previous high of 1200 and 1250 but it turned out to be failed break out.

Aug 97 -Feb 98: NIFTY fell from a high of 1300 to 940. A drop of almost 28%. The bear market rallies were again limited to 10-12% range with one or two rallies giving close to 20%.

Feb 1998- April 1998: NIFTY went from 930 to 1250. A gain of 35% with no significant corrections.

April 1998- Dec 1998: NIFTY fell from 1250 to low of 800. Again a 30-35% fall.

Dec 1998- Feb 2000: This was the IT/dotcom mania. The markets rose from 800 to 1800 in almost 1 year. A gain of 125% with intermediate corrections of not more than 20%.

Feb 2000-Sept 2001: This was the last bear market we had in our markets. NIFTY fell from a high of 1800 to a low of 850 (53% fall) in 18 months with intermediate rallies of 25%.

Sept 2001- Feb 2002: NIFTY rose from 850 to 1200 levels again in 6 months.
Almost 30% gain.One can consider this as part of bear rally.

Feb 2002-April 2003: A fall back to 920 levels from 1200 levels. A loss of 25% with intermediate bear rallies giving as much as 20% on the upside.

April 2003 - Jan 2004: Beginning of current bull run. NIFTY went from 920 to 2000 levels. A gain of 100%+ with intermediate corrections of not more than 10%. A clean uptrend.

Jan 2004-May 2004: NIFTY fell from 2000 to 1300 levels. A fall of 35%. A swift correction!

May 2004 -May 2006: NIFTY went from 1300 to 3750 levels. A gain of 190% with intermediate corrections of not more than 10-12%.

May 2006-Jun 2006: NIFTY fell from 3750 to 2600 levels.A loss of 30%. A swift correction!

June 2006-Jan 2008: NIFTY went from 2600 to 6350 levels. A gain of 145% with intermediate corrections of not more than 20%.

Jan 2008 - Present: Nifty fell from 6350 to 4450 levels. A loss of 30%. Bull market correction? Bear market? What?

Can we draw any conclusions from the above data? It is a little difficult but let me give it a shot.

Bull Markets:

Bull markets look a lot more simpler.They usually give more than 50% from the bottom.

Normal bull market corrections are not more than 15-20%.

In case the corrections exceed 30-35%, they are usually a swift ones (May 2004,May 2006).

And most important of them all, in a bull market markets take out the previous highs!

Bear Markets:

They are much more tricky.

From the past data it looks like bear markets are much more painful and markets fall more than 35% from top. Before 2000-2001, many of the downtrends gave a 30-35% downfall.(may be because markets were in a range) Only in 2001 did we fall more (55%).

Also bear markets rallies can extend up to 25% with 15% being the average.

Coming to present situation:

Before we begin ,one more thing one should notice is that “Future is never exactly like the past”. Before the current bull run, we had not seen gains of 188% in a single upmove! Similarly, markets can easily fall more than 55% in bearish conditions.

This is all about working on some probabilities. And hence the reason to manage risk.

Does it look more like 2000-2001 or May 2004 or 1995-96?

Right now we have had 30% correction on top. This certainly means that we might still NOT be in a bear market. Also as the correction was again swift, I won’t call this a bear market yet.

Does that mean that we are in a bullish zone? Again till we take out the previous high of 6350(a distinct characteristic all of the previous bull markets), one can’t say that we are in clear uptrend.

So as of now, this looks more like the 4450 to 6350 zone kind of market. Theoretically this is a big zone to play with-almost 35-40% in between.

So if we break 6350 on the upside with the current uptrend, the current rally shall be termed as a bull market correction while if we break 4450, the current upmove shall be construed as a bear rally. Even if this is a bear rally, this can extend almost 30-35% from the bottom. But,one needs to be less aggressive in his/her approach till we are sure.

Carefully observe the 1995-1998 period market moves(many 30-35% moves on the upside and the downside with an average of 6 month duration) and not just look at 2003-2007 period.

My own sense is that the current upmove might surprise many participants. The answer lies in the investor psychology. Many players have been hit hard (big and small) and they won’t dare to venture again. Smart players who have the capital and who were quick to react last time have the courage and the capital to make the best of the current uptrend.

One can position himself keeping these facts in mind. Don’t go after various definitions of bull and bear markets. If you are still listening to TV experts, it time to stop listening to these “equity strategists”. Just know what your risks are and then decide to play this market from the long/short side.

Please let me know if you can draw any other conclusions.

- SageCapital
 

gkpc

Well-Known Member
#2
First and foremost, please take my views as that of a lay man. And these are not to dispute your post.

Good collection of Data and analysis too... though unable to comment much due to my lack of much required TA .
Though the picture is there with percentage fall and rise in Nifty but not very clear to me ( I may not be understanding the subject)

So what ever little I know about charts etc. I feel it would be interesting to read if some one can also comment on the basis of Moving Averages.... i.e break below 50 MA took it to say 100 MA and further break to 200 MA and below and again on regaining to such and such level.
It seemingly should matter how long the Nifty remained in sideways mode and then went down or Up....
Then when we see the figures in percentage terms the upmove and down move at same percentage would differ... I think I am not able to put forth what I am trying to say.
In last move mentioned the nifty moved from 6350 to 4450 (1900 points loss)a loss of 30% but now to move from 4450 to 6350 Nifty would move 1900 points but in percentage terms it would be more than 42%.

In the last down move in Jan 2008 when NNifty broke the 50 SMA, 100 SMA and 200 SMA, the levels of these SMAs were :

50 SMA 5942 (When it was broken on 17th Januray 2008)
50 SMA 4944 (When Nifty closed above it on 17th April 2008)

100 SMA 5526 (When it was broken on 18th January 2008)
100 SMA 5360 Now as on 23rd April 2008, yet to be broken on the upside.

200 SMA 4890 When it was broken on 22nd Jan 2008 but Nifty did not close below)
200 SMA 4975 on 11 feb 2008 when Nifty closed below 200 SMA for the first
time after June/July 2006. (I may be wrong, I checked the
charts on the Net) but went up soon in a day or two.
200 SMA 5050 when nifty again closed below on 3rd March 2008 and conitunes to languish there.
200 SMA 5138 at present as on 23rd April. It might have been breached on 25th April, i do not have the data.

I feel a view based more on Moving Averages would be a better one....

All levels posted by me are Nifty Future only and the same would vary a bit with Nifty Spot levels.
 

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