Technical Vs Fundamental

aircraft · #1 21st March 2008, 11:14 PM

For me it looks like this. Fundamentals solely depend on company fundamentals and earnings data where as Technicals completely derive their basis from actual market data. Which among these two is a better candidate for a person to whose only intention is to make money?

Here goes the answer:

I think technicals are far better than fundamentals because it is ultimately the market determining the price for a security and not the company earnings directly. Though company earning guide the overall health of the security price it is the peoples sentiment which moves the price up and down. So the technicals give a clear market sentiment picture of the actual share holders as well as some fundamental insight.

Finally all it is required is to make money from price difference between the buy and sell. It is easy to ride sentiments rather than fundamentals which change in due long course of time. Hence technicals is a clear winner for me.

Cactus · #2 22nd March 2008, 01:06 AM

Wow......the battle can be won by technicals & fundamentals.......

............Good news..........

then why 90% losers......around the world...........

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Originally Posted by aircraft

For me it looks like this. Fundamentals solely depend on company fundamentals and earnings data where as Technicals completely derive their basis from actual market data. Which among these two is a better candidate for a person to whose only intention is to make money?

Here goes the answer:

I think technicals are far better than fundamentals because it is ultimately the market determining the price for a security and not the company earnings directly. Though company earning guide the overall health of the security price it is the peoples sentiment which moves the price up and down. So the technicals give a clear market sentiment picture of the actual share holders as well as some fundamental insight.

Finally all it is required is to make money from price difference between the buy and sell. It is easy to ride sentiments rather than fundamentals which change in due long course of time. Hence technicals is a clear winner for me.

Saint · #3 22nd March 2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cactus

Wow......the battle can be won by technicals & fundamentals.......

............Good news..........

then why 90% losers......around the world...........

Coz' they follow no strategy of any sort,no analysis of any type......they buy coz the next door neighbour's brother-in-law's cousin brother said so.....they gamble,and they lose!

Saint

Cactus · #4 22nd March 2008, 03:02 PM

Offcourse Saint.

But, if we forget tip system and consider the facts those are responsible for profit/loss in long/short term scenario………my opinion goes like this…..

Human behaviour/Trading Dicipline. 60%
Technicals 30%
Fundamentals 10%

Regards.

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Originally Posted by Saint

Coz' they follow no strategy of any sort,no analysis of any type......they buy coz the next door neighbour's brother-in-law's cousin brother said so.....they gamble,and they lose!

Saint

aircraft · #5 22nd March 2008, 07:11 PM

It is not the winning or losing. Markets never say or do nothing by which you will be made to lose. It is you who play. Markets at the very first step treat everybody equally. It is we who turn the opportunity for loss or a profit. Why blame market for this. Losing is purely our inefficiency. So better let us correct ourselves instead of working on markets winning or losing statistics.

People with a trading discipline flaw will never succeed in trading.

A BAD WORKMAN ALWAYS BLAMES OF TOOLS.

Cactus · #6 22nd March 2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aircraft

Why blame market for this. Losing is purely our inefficiency. So better let us correct ourselves instead of working on markets winning or losing statistics.

People with a trading discipline flaw will never succeed in trading.

A BAD WORKMAN ALWAYS BLAMES OF TOOLS.

Where I Blamed market ?

aircraft · #7 23rd March 2008, 12:29 PM

The whole post carries a pessimistic approach trying to provide statistics on winning and losing people. Why comment on losing side, Why not the 10% who won cannot be considered?. It is we who take the side and not the market trying to make us to take other sides boss. It the whole attitude which counts in trading. 90% lose because of discipline flaw and fear of losing over again. They finally leave the arena. p

amritak1952 · #8 23rd March 2008, 12:54 PM

dear seniors ,
with due respect i have yet to come across to the person whether fundamantalist or technicals who have not lost some money in the market
amrit

rds1933 · #9 23rd March 2008, 02:31 PM

In the long run, fundamentals may have relevance. However, in the short and intermediate considerations, technical analysis may give far higher returns. Technicals discount valuations too, in my opinion. I'm not an expert, so am ready to be corrected.

Cactus · #10 23rd March 2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aircraft

Why comment on losing side, Why not the 10% who won cannot be considered?.

No comments on losing or winning side, the comment was made on thinking that one can win the battel with fundamentals/technicals.........without understanding risk/money management/dicipline/ correct assumption........

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Originally Posted by aircraft

It is we who take the side and not the market trying to make us to take other sides boss. It the whole attitude which counts in trading. 90% lose because of discipline flaw and fear of losing over again.

Where did u mentioned DISCIPLINE in ur first post ?

There are several factors those make sombody loser or winer.......regardless to mention.......how long it take to learn.......