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death is ultimate truth which no one could deny yet
other things may be true or false according to once perception ( like the smile on Rathore's face. Rathore likes it and we simply detest that )
Lord Ram is an example of somebody who lived and fought for true and honest people.
The dead guy can not walk to the crematorium by himself nor is he affected by how we take him , this message that God who represented truth, honesty and doing good for others is ultimate truth as the death of the guy is for the people who take the dead guy to the last abode. Perhaps this can instill a feeling of compassion and living in harmony with this world and its people
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death is ultimate truth which no one could deny yet
other things may be true or false according to once perception ( like the smile on Rathore's face. Rathore likes it and we simply detest that )
Lord Ram is an example of somebody who lived and fought for true and honest people.
The dead guy can not walk to the crematorium by himself nor is he affected by how we take him , this message that God who represented truth, honesty and doing good for others is ultimate truth as the death of the guy is for the people who take the dead guy to the last abode. Perhaps this can instill a feeling of compassion and living in harmony with this world and its people
that's my perception

Really!??

Ram would kill someone by deceit and you call that 'living and fighting for truth'?

Ram would force his wife to go for 'agnipriksha' and you call that 'living and fighting for truth'?

Why didn't he himself go for 'agnipariksha'? After all he was also without his wife for so many days. Shouldn't he 'prove' to his wife that he didn't sleep with other women during this period??
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WoW! Exactly my question.

How does one know that 'God' is the one who (which?) is going with you?

How does one know that all the money that you have earned from Nifty doesn't go with you.

Is it only because some "sadhu baba" told us that money doesn't go with us while dying?
Here is the answer. do listen to entire video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojIeL6fHhAA
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Really!??
Ram would kill someone by deceit and you call that 'living and fighting for truth'?
I don't know the deceit you are talking about , do explain in your post.


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Ram would force his wife to go for 'agnipriksha' and you call that 'living and fighting for truth'?

Why didn't he himself go for 'agnipariksha'? After all he was also without his wife for so many days. Shouldn't he 'prove' to his wife that he didn't sleep with other women during this period??

Do remember that though both Shri Ram and Ma Sita were GOD and GODDESS but they came on the planet to live as ordinary Human Beings ,
to go through the same sorrows , same pains as an ordinary human being would go ,
that is the reason why Shri Ram never said that I am the God or use any special powers.

Right from the birth , He went through all the stages of life ,
he went to school , learned all the skills , fight all the demons , married Sita .
he followed all the dharmas of a prince like a human being ,
Shri Ram left his kingdom to set an example of being a perfect son ,
Shri Ram promised Sita that he would never marry any other woman to set an example as a perfect husband .
Shri Ram ate Shabri's fruits to teach us that all Human beings are same .

now at the end after the victory over Ravana , Shri Ram knew that his subjects would be skepticals about the chastity of Sita.

so again To set the example (Dharma ) of a perfect King , He asked his wife to go through AgniPariksha. so that his subjects would be assured of the integrity of their country's Queen.

Inspite of all this when Shri Ram found out that his subjects are still talking ill about Sita ,
He asked her to go to jungle as Sita was Pregnant at that time , Where ma Sita gave birth to Luv Kush.

Do remember that Ram Loved Sita immensely that is why He promised that He would never marry again ,
that is why He went across ocean to fight Ravana to protect her.

In order to make sure that in future no other woman has to go through the same kind of Agnipariksha,
Shri Ram did declare " No Woman in future should be asked to go through this type of AgniPariskha"


The reason that Shri Ram is called MARYADA PUROSHTAMA , because he followed all his duties when it was asked for ,

Shri Ram left his Kingdom to perform his duty ( Dharma ) as a SON ,
Shri Ram Fought Ravana to Perform his duty (Dharma) as a Husband as it is the duty of Husband to protect his wife . (feminists will argue with this).
Shri Ram asked Sita to Go through AGNIPARIKSHA and eventually asked her to go to jungle to perform his duty as a King.


The purpose of the story of Ramayana is to inspire average Human beings to live life , to perform all our duties with integrity and honesty while embracing all types of sufferings ,

teach us and inspire us to be a good son , good husband , good wife and good king ( king?? , means to perform our dharma of whatever post is assigned to us )

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to teach us that pains and sorrows of life are part and parcel of life, as even God when came on the earth could not avoid the pains and sorrows of life.

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Really!??

Ram would kill someone by deceit and you call that 'living and fighting for truth'?

Ram would force his wife to go for 'agnipriksha' and you call that 'living and fighting for truth'?

Why didn't he himself go for 'agnipariksha'? After all he was also without his wife for so many days. Shouldn't he 'prove' to his wife that he didn't sleep with other women during this period??
Bro I pray Bhagwan Ram to have mercy on you
For all your Ignorant questions I suggest you to please read Shri Ram Charitmanas and after that ask forgiveness from Lord Shiva and Bajrang Bali
To others I say God bless you but for you I request god pls have mercy on your child as he is too ignorant
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Bro I pray Bhagwan Ram to have mercy on you
For all your Ignorant questions I suggest you to please read Shri Ram Charitmanas and after that ask forgiveness from Lord Shiva and Bajrang Bali
To others I say God bless you but for you I request god pls have mercy on your child as he is too ignorant
Jaki rahi bhawna jaisi , Prabhu moorat dekhi tin taisi

For us
Ram is name of kindness , turth and integrity.
if a person wants to think other way , then we can not do much , except pray to RAM that to help him the to think straight.
Jai Shree Ram, Jai shree Krishna.
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Jaki rahi bhawna jaisi , Prabhu moorat dekhi tin taisi

For us
Ram is name of kindness , turth and integrity.
if a person wants to think other way , then we can not do much , except pray to RAM that to help him the to think straight.
Jai Shree Ram, Jai shree Krishna.

God will surely bless you
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Bro I pray Bhagwan Ram to have mercy on you
For all your Ignorant questions I suggest you to please read Shri Ram Charitmanas and after that ask forgiveness from Lord Shiva and Bajrang Bali
To others I say God bless you but for you I request god pls have mercy on your child as he is too ignorant
Dear Praveen,

Ram Charita Manas is not the original epic. Its just a novel somewhere similar to those written everyday by likes of Surendra Mohan Pathak and others.
Just the language happens to be Sanskrit.

The original one is Ramayana written by Balmiki. Go read that. That is probably closest to truth.

But no one can help much to someone who likes to close his eyes, senses and brain, who doesn't want to think from his own brain but believes only what his forefathers and baba's have told.

We have been given Human Body so that we can think. If we simply believe in whatever our forefathers and baba's say to us then we have no right to call ourselves Human.

Please don't take these personally.

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Ramayana??

Does Ramayana really happened or those are just a story from a novelist??

What proof do we have to substantiate, apart from the usual stuffs??

But u can ask me , what proof do u want?....iam not sure....something logical except those same literature....i mean does any research carried out in this line??

Iam serious.....someone plz help open my ignorant eyes and mind....
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Dear Praveen,

Ram Charita Manas is not the original epic. Its just a novel somewhere similar to those written everyday by likes of Surendra Mohan Pathak and others.
Just the language happens to be Sanskrit.

The original one is Ramayana written by Balmiki. Go read that. That is probably closest to truth.

But no one can help much to someone who likes to close his eyes, senses and brain, who doesn't want to think from his own brain but believes only what his forefathers and baba's have told.

We have been given Human Body so that we can think. If we simply believe in whatever our forefathers and baba's say to us then we have no right to call ourselves Human.

Please don't take these personally.

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Ramayana??

Does Ramayana really happened or those are just a story from a novelist??

What proof do we have to substantiate, apart from the usual stuffs??

But u can ask me , what proof do u want?....iam not sure....something logical except those same literature....i mean does any research carried out in this line??

Iam serious.....someone plz help open my ignorant eyes and mind....
Really bro want to show many things but dont want to boast of myself
I daily meet many people and try to help and solve problems of people dont want to name but few here at TJ too got there problem solved by merely reading Ramayan
Ramayan & Shri Ram charitmanas are same but difference is of language bcoz Gosain Tulsidasji were known pandit and Balmiki ji all know
as on proof as u guys respect american then our epics google NASA finding on Ram Setu
Jiske naam se patthar tair gaye ham kyon nahi tairenge mere bhai
people suffering from major desease read Ramayan why not they read surender mohan novel


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