Reality shows reality

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Host gets crores of amounts as a part of salary & who have to pay only income tax on it.participators work on Negligible amount & most of become a part of a very unrealistic reality.

After some months hard ship if any body wins the title then who gets only one crore or elseAmount & instantly who have to pay government tax + yearly income tax.

Runner of these shows are most of the times set a cheap locations and minimized their expenditures as cpmpair to a script

base programme.

In reality shows most of the times "unusual situations" are the necessory requirement to get the attractions of news

channels and Public to Increase TRP

Example -: Big Boss 3 Apx. Calculations

(1) Paid Amount to Amitabh Bacchan Apx 126 Crores
http://toostep.com/insight/amitabh-bachchan-to-be-paid-rs-126-crore-for-bigg-boss-3#p=0*1**
http://in.biz.yahoo.com/091007/50/bauazx.html
(2) Winning Amount Apx 1 Crores
(3) Advertise rates Apx.Rs 1.5 Lac / 10 seconds
(4) Time Durations 90 Days
(5) Other income by repeating the programmes , sms , Sponsorship

Just estimate the income of channels, host & find the place of its participants.Some Channels are very sharp to say that they are providing a plat form to artist by saying that They utilize them for so many episodes. so many times they utilize delight full Childs for so many months. After all this if a child win who gets (Nominal Amount) only rs 10 lac or else amount + tax Examples-:child's coomedy & dance shows

Some others channels were showing very rubbish gate way of gaining money like UTVI Bindaas Dadagiri for getting the attention from the public they have given the message to all the youth generations to gain something you have to open for anything Like Abuse, Hitting & Thousands of Rubbish things by doing all this you will be like Hero or else.

For this they just select a very cheap location, prize amount was just Rs 10 lac. And finally a boy won the amount after some months hard ship but after gaining the same who had lost so many things those were more costly as compare to that amount.

Conclusion -:

http://www.thehindu.com/2009/05/17/stories/2009051757890200.htm

(1)Government should bound the every reality shows to pay the Contract salary to its final participators on contract basis
if it is not fully applicable.

(2)If host paying amount exceeded then winning amount of the show then government can think about their tax taking
criteria

(3)Government should band any useless reality shows those gives very wrong message to the society
 
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bunny

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Why don't you produce a reality show and do this?

As far as I know, reality shows provide some compensation to their participants.
Also, there is more supply of participants than shows can really take. There are a no. of 'celebrities' who are now out-of-business, or need a comeback, and there are also no. of struggling people who want an opportunity to exhibit their skills and not money.

Looks like you have never held a real-life job and hence you may not have experienced these so called "market forces". And do you think an 1 crore minus taxes is a small amount by any means? Also, are you aware of the media and entertainment business? When it comes to survival, many of your options are narrow.

Finally, I don't get a point of what you conclude.

The real people are not the ones who are seen on your TV screen, but they are those whose names are not commonly heard by the public and they work behind the scene at key positions in the business.
 
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Why don't you produce a reality show and do this?

As far as I know, reality shows provide some compensation to their participants.
Also, there is more supply of participants than shows can really take. There are a no. of 'celebrities' who are now out-of-business, or need a comeback, and there are also no. of struggling people who want an opportunity to exhibit their skills and not money.

Looks like you have never held a real-life job and hence you may not have experienced these so called "market forces". And do you think an 1 crore minus taxes is a small amount by any means? Also, are you aware of the media and entertainment business? When it comes to survival, many of your options are narrow.

Finally, I don't get a point of what you conclude.

The real people are not the ones who are seen on your TV screen, but they are those whose names are not commonly heard by the public and they work behind the scene at key positions in the business.
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(1) You said “As far as I know, reality shows provide some compensation to their participants”

Ans-: No body knows about this if you have data then provide actual amount of the same with respect to no.of month / week/ episode / hours / Minutes spending of an artist in all type of reality show

(2) You Said “There is more supply of participants than shows can really take. There is a no. of
Celebrities' those are now out-of-business, or need a comeback, and there are also
no. of struggling people who wants an opportunity to exhibit their skills and not Money”

Ans-: Firstly you have to know the different class of reality shows
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?261101
(1) Child Reality Show of singing, dance, comedy Etc.

(2) Adventures reality shows Like -:Is jangal Se mujhe bachao ,Bindass “dadagiri”

(3) Khatron Ke Khiladi by akshaya kumar

(4) Quiz Shows – Das ka dam, KBC, Kiya aap Paanchvi Pass se tej hai


(5) Music Competitions – India Ideol & uncountable music competitions on different channels

(6) Shadi Shows - Rakhi Ka Swayamvar & Etc.

(7) Big Boss 1,2,3 & sarkar ki duniya


Every shows has its own reality like reality of signing, dancing, comedy, adventures, quizzing spirits If any where an artificial or real art or presence is applicable by its performer then who is the part of earning accept quiz shows. Please don’t argue that this show was in reality or not because I have already mention the definition of a reality show.

(x) What do you mean by struggles?

When a person gets first Rs 10000 amount who struggles for Rs.50000 then 1 lac. Then 10 lac. Then 1 crore. then 10 crores …. & this journey will be moving everlastingly………….So it’s proved that econimic struggles are being with every stage of earning. If you don’t have any experience of the same then ask from any settle one or see in the life of an industrialist, sports person, actor’s, and normal routine persons? If you don’t find any body around you then you are free to ask from me. According to you TATA has got huge amount of money so he have to provide free product. Just like every artist is full of art if any body is earning out of his art then who have all the rights to get a nominal fees out of his doing. So how can you say that a Celebrity doesn’t need money?

You are talking about old time status when an artist were fighting to get a place and he was ready to work without amount when he got some success then who tried to cash the same. Dear time has changed completely chances of earning are minimized due to huge populations & competitions.so organizers need to take them as a healthy sourse of their erarning & arrange to manage a proper contribution of them by this they can stop the flow of a struggling artist in the way of struggles.

And you won’t find any frequent “new stars” over the place of current judges. So flow of money can increase the fighting sprit of its strugglers.

Did you hear about a strike of the television stars to increase their amount of earning? Was that also a struggle? So every struggle is connected with a certain amount? I hope it’s very much clear.

(y) In what way you will be classifying struggling artistic?

As per your eyes I thing following are the strugglers -:

Struggling Artists, Come Back 'celebrities', Child Stars, newly build artists of music, dance, and Adventure Sports artist, forgotten heroes Etc.

What is the success ratio of the placements of an artist, was provided by a reality shows?

(1)Music Shows -:

See the ratio of all India idol & same kinds programme where you can find thousands no. of participant & after 5 years one guy got a very little presence: Abhijeet Savant” but every body knows the success of him.
What else nothing. So after the selections of final candidates, channels can provide normal amount to its performer.if is it not applicable ?which is normally assigned to a story programme artist & winning amount will be extra because Channel is earning out of their performance not by the performance of Judges.

http://www.radioandmusic.com/content/editorial/news/the-reality-behind-music-talent-shows

(2)Child Comedy music & dance Shows -:

During comedy , Music & dance shows on colors or else so many children were performing remarkably well for month after another month for so many episodes .according to me most of the ones were better then their judges. According to you they all were struggling?
Only one child got a winning prize in each category rs 10 lac. or else & tax was also applicable on that.What about rest of them, did they get something?.

As per your remark about child struggling artists they don’t need money because they want to make their name, Is it justify?

Where will be their placement? And how many will able to join the same?

Because on the name of comedy you will find only competition shows & Are these providing any guarantee of normal earning? along with winning prize

(3) An adult comedian-: Point 2 is almost applicable on point (3) …………………………….

(4) Dance Shows -:

Over the last 5 years you can find thousands of terrific dance artists & their Participations in dance shows tell me how many were got their placements?

(5) Adventure Sports shows -:

Adventure sport is a very big business in so many countries which always Requires the participations of specialist people now this culture is also started in India by the name of “Iss jangal se mujhe baachao , khatro ke khiladi , dadagiri” just imaging if the participators wont find nominal amount during their performance then they will find only same kind of shows to perform and how many were will earn?are they getting any amount during their time spending by performance in reality show? What some organizers are doing? They used to create maximum unsuitability to make a very rubbish get way of gaining money like UTVI Bindaas” Dadagiri for getting the attention from the public they have given the message to all the youth generations to gain something you have to open for anything Like Abuse, Hitting & Thousands of Rubbish things by doing all this you will be like Hero or else.

For this they just select a very cheap location, prize amount was just Rs 10 lac. And finally a boy won the amount after some month’s hard ship but after gaining the same who had lost so many things those were more costly as compare to that amount.

(6) Big Boss 1,2,3 , Sarkar Ki Duniya -:

If we remove all the abuses from sarkar ki duniya then it was far & far better then all the big boss series.
Just imaging about 100’s of artists from last 5 years progression and counts how many ones got their placement from big boss & sarkar ki duniya.
So it’s proved that reality shows provide negligible placements & now 50 to 60 % programmes on channels are based on a reality show. As per your theory a struggler will remain a struggler “.

According me reality shows are gaining money out of the performance of their participators then they won’t be call like a struggler and they have to get a proper amount as compare to a normal story artist of a serial and winning amount will be treated as normal utility.(if they are not getting).Then you can find some reality in the performance of reality artist.

Sufferer of a reality Show

(1)http://movies.ndtv.com/Ndtv-Show-Special-Story.aspx?ID=296&StoryID=ENTEN20090107346&ch=912009114500AM

(2) http://www.chillibreeze.com/articles_various/Reality-Shows.asp

(3) A sixteen years old girl paralysed see the link
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/reality-show-participant-ill-due-to-too-much-pressure/68139-3.html

(4) http://www.indianexpress.com/news/reality-show-participant-fails-to-clear-audi/359430/

Reality Shows & Judges Income

http://www.talkvs.com/how-much-do-reality-show-judges-earn-t-143.html

3.You said about “Market forces" And do you think a 1 crore minus taxes is a small amount by any means?
Also, are you aware of the media and entertainment business? When it comes to survival, many of your
options are narrow "Market forces"

Ans-:

We are talking about reality shows when host can take 126 crores then 1 crore is a negligible amount
Basic point was to source of normal earning with the progression of every episodes of a reality artist & I already maintain in detail about this. I hope your mentality will be fully clear when you will see some estimated data after 2 to 3 paragraphs

“You said about market force & you didn’t provide the definition of the same.

“A market force shows the liking & disliking towards a person, programme or any conductions which indicates the real value of a particular”

I hope you will be clear about the definition of market force.

Let’s we should clear about the conduction of a serial -:

Estimated Expenditures

(1) Payments of Artists ----------------
(2) Fixed or Movable Set Up expenses -------------------------------
(3) Dress up materials Expenses ………………………………..
(4) All the Instruments & its users payments ………………………….
(5) Script writers, Lyric, singer’s payment……………………
(6) Make up man’s payment………………………
(7) Laundry expenses
(8) Advertising expenses
(9) Choreographer expenses
(10 Director
(11)Dubbing & mixing expenses
(12) Traveling Expenses.
(13) Other expenses


Estimated Earnings -:

(1) Royalty from their channels advertise gaining
(2) Royalty from their channels sponsorship gaining
(3) Royalty from their channels SMS earning
(4) Others


Estimated Expenses Comparison of a reality show with a rated TV serial which is organized by channel for 3 months time period -:

Estimated Expenses Comparisons-:

(1) If They don’t pay any actual payment to participators and save (apx. 4 lac each episode) Apx.2.5 Crores / 3 months
As compare to a top rated serial

(2) They can pay Apx. Rs 5 Lac to apx .1 crore to winner as Compare to 2.5 crore in 3 months time period

(3) They can pay Huge or nominal amount as per the personality of host & judges -: APX 10 Lacs To Apx.150 crores for 3
month assignment

(4) They can save Apx. 10 Lac. To Apx. 2 crores by their non movable set up in 3 months time period

(5) They can save APX. 20 to Apx.50 Lacs by dress materials expenses in 3 months time period

(6) Budget of Script writers, Lyric, singer’s payments can be reduced to APX.10 to apx.15 Lacs in 3 months time period

(7) Make up men, Laundry Expenses, Choreographer expenses, Dubbing & Mixing, Traveling Expenses can be
Saved up to APX.10 lac. To apx.25 lacs. in 3 months time period

(a) If reality shows go by their Minimum Expenses criteria Like Childs music / Comedy shows, adult
Comedy Shows, dances Shows, Adventures shows, “DADAGIRI” Then they can minimized their Expenses &
Will be in + Plus Situation around Apx.2.5 crores to Apx.3 Crores as compare to any top rated serial.about India Ideal
Competition it’s around Apx.1.5 Crores to Apx.2 crores for Sarkar Ki duniya it’s around apx.2 to apx.2.5 Crores

Estimated Minimum Expenses Criteria Income level-

(1) 100 % Advertising Gain APX.(Rs 50 thousands / 10 Sec. to 2 Lac. / 10 Sec.

(2) 100 % Sponsorship gains APX.(Rs 10 Lac. To 10 Crores)

(3) SMS & Others earning APX.( Rs. 10 Lac. To 15 Crores)


Estimated Minimum Income Level for a reality programme – Apx RS 50 crores. For 3 months

Estimated Maximum Income Level for a reality programme – Apx. Rs 300 Crores For 3 months



(b) If reality shows go for their Estimated Maximum Expenses criteria Like Big Boss 1, 2, 3, KBC, kiya Aap
paanchvi Pass se Tej Hai,DUS KA DUM etc. they can maximized their Budget Expenses & will be in - Plus
Situation around Apx.100 crores to Apx.300 Crores as compare to any top rated serial because they have to pay huge
Amount to HOST but this will increase their chance of advertising, sms, sponsorship’s gains.

Estimated Maximum Expenses Criteria Income level-
(1) 100 % Advertising Gain APX.(Rs 1.5 Lac. / 10 Sec. to 5 Lac. / 10 Sec.
(2) 100 % Sponsorship gains APX.(Rs 5 crores To 20 Crores)
(3) SMS & Others earning APX.( Rs. 5 crores. To 15 Crores)

Estimated Minimum Income Level for a reality programme – Apx RS 210 crores. For 3 months
Estimated Maximum Income Level for a reality programme – Apx. Rs 600 Crores For 3 months


“Comment”-:

As per their Estimated "minimum or maximum" budget criteria they justified their income level and what ever the brand value they committed towards a programme as per their advertise value is estimated by the company’s and their long lasting gains are fully depend upon the succession of a programme .

(1) When they are playing for huge gain & if they deny the normal payments to their participators then this will be unusual.
That’s why Rs 1 crores & normal payments is not a very huge thing because now 60 % programmes
Are based on reality shows due to its less expensive nature.

(2) If any programme is taking big host like BIG B means his project is very big to gain a sustainable advertising gain
Now days so many reality shows are gaining huge losses due heavy cost burden of its host payments.
Then new generations of host a brand is playing a very vital role my meaning to say that as per the target market of
a reality shows that’s why HOST & Judges making competitions are vital firstly those will be selected by the people then automatically their brand value will be increased and Immediately they have to be utilized by the reality shows owner or take cheap & best host another way to take those forgotten starts those are still fit but not in pictures like an another way to take Host ,those have some sensible / Humble face value & good command over language those are the vital for long time succession. Like (1) Rajeev Khendalwal (2) Nana Patekar (3) Aishwarya Bacchan (After 3 years) when her brand value will be decline (4)Parijat from lafter challenge of star one Etc………………………..

Lastly you said

The real people are not the ones, who are seen on your TV screen, but they are those whose names are not commonly heard by the public and they work behind the scene at key positions in the business.

Its ok but the way they used to conduct any plan behalf of that reality of screen peoples come out.

I hope you have got every answer of your query if you feel that you are not fully assure then read all this again & again you will get your answer

I have written all this by my commonsense, imagination , education & professional experience so all the data are not full and final that was just a gateway to understand the formulation of a serial, movie or a reality show:)
 
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#7
Hello Bunny,

Plz tell R u Manmohan? Or he is your ideal. Suppose u believe in idealism then I think Obama suits u as compare to manmohan..............:yahoo:
 
#8
(1)Government should bound the every reality shows to pay the Contract salary to its final participators on contract basis
if it is not fully applicable.

(2)If host paying amount exceeded then winning amount of the show then government can think about their tax taking
criteria

(3)Government should band any useless reality shows those gives very wrong message to the society
Wow, what a solution !!! :)

Ban everything.
Ban tv shows, ban movies, ban music, ban art, ban websites.
Ban anything which gives 'wrong message to the society' ! :D

Excellent buddy. we need more people like you in this country.
After all, we are "ARYAs" and we need someone like Hitler to run this country. :)
All other races are inferior to us, isn't it !! :)
 
#9
Buddy

Do you know the meaning of bound or ban?

u r completely saying about ban means u r on the way of Hitler’s generation

I was saying about (bound) control mean solution for those, those

Have real worth & ban for those reality shows,those are providing very useless act by creating regular abuse word, act to

create Somewhat happening.

Ok tell me if you are watching a reality show with your family member & you find

Huge amount of abuses & useless act .will you like to see the same? So dear here

Ban is the right word.

plz increase your small vocabulary. Then I hope you will able to

Understand the meaning of any word, article or subject and you won’t impose

Your unthinkable thinking on any body & very importantly you will able to

Take ram (Holy Word) as ram not like raven (Hellish word)

So dear it’s nothing it’s a matter of vocabulary.........................

:lol: :yahoo: :lol:
 
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