Sex,Spirituality and Stockmarket

Hi ALL--seniors and juniors,
First of all ,I sincerely apologise for starting such a controversial topic.
But then,its Saturday morning--and I'm alone in my house---my wife went to her house, yesterday.I am feeling both happy,as well as sad and lonely---Happy--for getting a day off from hearing her grivences for coming late to bed;sad and lonely because I'm really missing the cutest little chatterbox.

Yesterday late night,as I was surfing the channels--I came across a sop in Star World--"Coffee with Karan".Mr. Karan Johar was the host and Mrs. Mallika and Amrita Arorra were the accompanists.Both of them were great leggies(with due respect to all women participants ot forum);as such were a great fun to watch at.And,moreover, the topic was also equally hot--probably "SEX and BOLLYWOOD" (I do not know the actual topic as I was a late entrant to this faboulous show).Jokes apart,the elegence with which this interactive session was carried out deserves appreciation in its own merit.

This show was actually an eye-opener for me ---for it added a new dimension to my knowledge database. It gave a new food for my thought---
Can't it be stated that-- Sex,Spirituality and Stockmarket are all tied in the same knot?The more I thought with it ,the more I could find a direct correlation with all of them.

Sex,Spirituality and Stockmarket---all of them ,I feel are the greatest truths of nature.While Sex evolves the continuation of human race;Spirituality evolves the continuation of human mind,and Stockmarket evolves the continuation of human prediction and human tolerance.

All threee of them are very practical,very unpredictable and the most sought after things today.

Those who have never performed sex, can never experience what it is--those who have never experienced spirituality can never ever realise its significance in life--and those who have never significantly taken an active part in the Stockmarket, can never understand what's the philosophy of life is.Life is a saga--where birth and death,ups and downs,hapiness and sadness,
are all an integral part and nothing else but the 2 faces of the same coin.

For sex to succeed,both the partners need to play an active role;for spirituality to succeed ,both the inner and the outer selves need to have a complete coherence;for stockmarket to succeed,both the buyers and the sellers need to be an active participant.

Sex sells--in todays life,Spiritality do sell;---as per Stockmarket, all the participants knows the obvious answer.

Those who look sexy,may not be that sexy in reality---those who look spiritual,may not be that spiritual in reality---and those who appear to be the greatest analysts in the stockmarket(with due respect to the few true knowledgables) are probably the greatest frauds in reality--unless u r very certain about someone,it is always preferable and advisable to stay away from them and depend on ur own means.After all "Nature helps those who help themseves".

One of my new friend(MohitKool),who appears to be also from Kolkata--
told me that he was amazed with my combination of interests---Maths,Physics,and Stockmarket.Well , after my recent entry in the stockmarket,I can definitely say that one who has never culminated these combinatins,can never understand the true practical philosophy of the Virtues of Life and Death.Both are inevitables---it is better to accept this truth and enjoy every moment as it presents itself.

In this context ,I have derived a new equation:
Maths == Sex
Physics == Spirituality
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Maths + Physics == Sex + Spirituality == Stockmarket

Regards,
joy_mitali

My dear joy, what should I say. These days the joy that one gets from orgasm in sex, one gets from reading your posts. Your boldness must be appreciated on starting an unconventional if not exactly a controversial topic and the timing too is good . My first impression was that you were onverdoing it but I must appreciate these analogies

This is the "conceptualiser/experiencer" HRD principle applicable to all fields of life. Well known CNBC commentator Ashwani Gujral also says " Become a Virendra Schewag, not some commentator" implying trade rather than talk about it.

All I will say to this is "Muhobbat karne ka mazza tab aata hai jab dono taraf barabar ki aag lagi hui ho" . The market can screw up your happiness anytime and so unless you are a keen participant, you can get bankrupt- "Bored traders open closed wallets" . Just as Kapil Dev tells Sachin Tendulkar" Don't restrict yourself. Enjoy your cricket" I say "Enjoy your market" and I must that as a part, Joy had made is possble to enjoy the forum.



Some of the most successful websites are pornography sites. Stockmarkets are also bound to be popular because" Na bada baap na bhaiya, sabse bada Rupaiyaa" because the erroneous perception that it is easy money.Both one of my and my wife's friends asked me to suggest a stock which would tripple in a month's time. If I knew that, why should I waste my time here.

This is both a combination of "All that is gold does not glitter" and as you have wisely pointed out vice-versa. This is third eye judgement. Also:-

This reminds you of Geroge Barnard shaw's

Those who can do, else they teach.
Those who can teach, esle they become teacher trainers
Those who train, train, else they write teacher training books

Applying to the market, Those who can trade, else they analyse,newsletterwrite and god knows what though one can be both a successul trader and analyst/newsletter types too though many books talk about ppl who make more money from newsletters/ software than from trading themselves. Fact to be kept in mind.

Needless to mention, all this does not apply to sex because irrespective of the pedigree, everybody would vote for action and hope for "Nature helps those who help themselves". The difference is that in the mkt, there are bulls and bears but where sex is concerned, most would be bullish.

One more thing that I must add. Somebody told me that for those who cannot meditate well, sex is the best remedy because the mind cannot beat about the bush even if for a few moments. If you are a full time trader, particularly day trader, same holds true to a lesser or greater degree. As I have said elsewhere, concentration is the secret of success in all activities.

One suggestion-Why don't you change your name from joy to enjoy. Joy represents a kind of minor top but your posts reflect intermediate/major tops.

That again reminds me of a strange analogy. In sex too there can be tops, bottoms and sideways(taking positions just the way we do in the market) though what happens 2/3 rds or most of the time is subjective. Adding to previous positions is not always easy.

That reminds me. Even for the best of analysts it is not always easy to know whether or not the market has bottomed out. I have read articles to the effect that it is difficult to similarly determine whether or not you have reached/achieved an orgasm.


Last but not the least referring to your equation. I don't quite understand what you are trying to say .
Have you not heard of " There is "chemistry" in love but sex has more to do with "physics".

Dearest sh50,and respected all others,
Like always, it is really a previledge to get compliments from u.Actually I was a bit scared ,after I had put this new thread in the forum,thinking that it might be put off the air by Traderji--the Super Moderator,for some of its objectionable remarks.

But now that every one in the forum has taken it lightly ,makes me feel greatly relieved.Probably at least a few has after all understood the essence of this post---thanks for ur superb critical analysis of my thoughts ,as well as for the additional comments.


The eqution which I had set is not at all a trash;--for sex and maths has a direct correlation with each other.Both of them plunge into an illusive appparent absurdity world of creation,---one in a million sperms after their journey through an unknown destiny strikes the perfect chord,--leading to creation of a new life, a new brain,and a new source of a wave of new thoughts;---similarly one out of a million probable logics in maths give rise to a new mathametical source,like the topics of Real and Complex Analysis,Fuzzy set etc.

And as of the correlation between Physics andd spirituality,--a lot of materials r available in the net;--it is utterly immposible to describe it in this space,--for there are many in this forum,who do not have a Physics background and hence they can get bored.There is one good book which I feel everyone must read--"The Tao of Physics" by Fritjof Capra.Reading this will obviously prove my stated equality of Physics and Spirituality.

And,finally,as of the Stockmarket,---one needs to have the creativity of the Mathamatecians and the Forsight and deductive attitude of the physicists,along with the ruthlessness of both sex and spirituality to become truely successful in this rat race.
Regards,
joy_mitali

Re: Sex Spirtualityand stock market.

Dear Joy/Sh50

The sujcet you have chossen has three sss and as you speak it turn out to be ass.
Both of u has similar name joy 50 :50.
I hope the answer is simple .
The joy is when you act, all acts are sacred how u perceive In Gita
One who see action in inaction and inaction in action is yogi.

sex is sacred u must have heard creation of Rana Partap by wishes of his mother.
With sex you reach the almighty but the mating must be perfect,pure peaceful. read Ohso his celebrated book ....something to samdhi.
Even one school of thought in Indian philosphy knew the subject in totality that Khajrao came in to exitence as intellectual of that time also believed in the same . Stock market is close to spitruality as it is beyyond intellect and more than wisdom which is nearer to spirtuality.
Love for all three exhibits grand scholar inquistive mind as u r Physics student and maths too all this inquistive science . Lord further says I love the inquistive as they are into path of knowledge as they are like me and i knwo they come to me automatically.But joy ruthlessness has no place in all three sector u need euipoised.
Please dont mind my addressing ideas to u.
U all are quite in the state of acievements I wish u all best of luck . with regards.NKsagar

Great post joy & great response sh50. Shall respond tomorrow or whenever time permits. Just got fagged out & wasted time responding to kannam... on the other category. joy's post was really welcome, not as much as it is non-conventional as it is non-brain storming. Nice topic as it is current. Karan Johar's show is good. My daughter watches always, along with my wife & "me" too. Did'nt watch this particular show but your post is very good indeed & the analogies are spot-on. Will respond in verse very soon. )

May seem like a meek response post but I don't have the time now for it. just wait a bit please.

Dearest NKSagar,sh50,jaideep,and respected all other seniors and juniors,
NKSagar--: Thanks a lot for ur constructive critisism and valued suggestions.
Even though I do somewhat agree with u that "ruthlessness" is too harsh a word to be used,but then ,in todays world(which is sometimes referred to as Kaliyugh),Isnt it the harsh reality,which actually determines the faint line of demarcation between success and failure?
Maybe in the deepest sense,--ruthlessness is actually a manifestation of evilness,--but then if someone is really a rational minded person ,who somewhat knows his goals,to a greater degree of certainity,--then he must move on and on ,--and even though his actions may appear somewhat ruthless ,he must keep them away from his mind ,for the success of a better cause.
In this context, I would like to quote Vivekananda:
"Arise!Awake!Stop not till the goal is reached!"
Even though the word "goal" is a very superficial statement,-- still, in a broader,linient sense,--we must set some predefined target,and try to attain it in a predefined time, with maybe a certain degree of ruthlessness if required(but no way it signifies brutallity).
But then in the truest sense,----what u have implied is probably the ultimate truth-----"A balanced and equipoised mind is much more focused,and a true seeker always get the help of nature miraculausly,and he doesn't need to be ruthless in any walks of his life."

Quote:NKSagar:
Stock market is close to spitruality as it is beyond intellect and more than wisdom which is nearer to spirtuality.
What u have said clearly reveals what a great person of "true knowledge and wisdom" u really r!!!
I also somewhat feel(not by total conviction still now) that probably ,there do exist a state which is beyond intellect and more that the so called wisdom.It is probably the state when Buddha attained the "Nirvana",and Christ attained his "Martyrdom".
And that u have said these great words so casually ,and yet so nicely correlated it with the stockmarket,itself refects ur versatility and ur experience in both the stockmarket and in spirituality.
Plz,feel free to advice as well as critisise ,in the near future,for it is through ur critisisms that I will be able to understand my mistakes and make ammends.

Jaideep:-- I m eagerly waiting to get a glimpse of ur poetic skills in this thread,for u and sh50 r the two great poetic geniuses ,who has made this forum a more entertainable one.

Regards ,
joy_mitali

Dear joy

You are really person of positive frame of mind which gets along with everyone and the term is gregarious ur very successful and favourite amongs friends and have lasting ones. Yours words enrich the treasure but at ur age u need more goals,more sucsess. What v discusses success sometime comes to people with luck, v are not pondering on that subject.
A true success is when ur efforts and actions pay in the same straight line and your computing action with either operation managment or by permutation and combinations of reaosns and logic comes true. Now all this come when u r inner conscious of ur outer conscious matches now some call meditative, religiously done work,excellence in command every thing is same.
Success will come only if you are in action try to do something and every time you perform you achieve something better and good to ur surprise u perform the best & u are unable to explain. When u doanything and u achieve excellence and beyond which u are not making effort and excellence in effortlessness is beyond intellect.
In this state your physical body, your mental body and the subject or objects are performing beyond 100percent that is state of wisdom,beyond mind.
It happens in the state of purity,perfection and work or action without ur personal interest in it but for everyone.

The words of Gita explains Chapter 4 for true action -: Get ur self free from fear anger and attachment and take refuse in me u will get purified knowedge about me.
U can very simply achieve if u follow love for all,no anger,forgiveness no fear,with min ego,knowledge and logic, reasoning must not end,if u find my subject not objective ,reject, meditate from ur point of view . u will also go beyond mind.

In stock market v are not reading the only impact of cos results but the overall political view of the country,policies of the Goverance community,public at large reaction and and overal global scenarios and then your met dept news for rains.
A person making noises in this paramaters trying to log his mind something also
beyond
Stock market burns 100 percent but it gives 100 per resultsof our action and hence it is absorbing and interesting u know lots about overall development of man and material which is very essential.
With regards next some other time,,

Nksagar

Respected NKSagar, and all others,
Thanks,from the bottom of my heart, for ur valuable suggestions,and their critical explanations.I,sincerely hope,that ur words of wisdom will not only help me, but many others who may go through this thread.

Just ,one more of my views, I would like to add: ---Probably,we all(including myself)have come to the stockmarket, for our lust of money.To a certain extent,this lust will be the driving factor, which will inspire us to be better equiped ,to deal with the uncertanities of the stockmrket[in analogous to our lust for sex(in general),for whose fulfilment,we mostly try to express our love for the other gender,to satisfy our predefined expectations].But then if we cannot rise beyond this level,it would be very difficult for us to maximise our success rates.
Just like love and sex ,though compliment each other(considering the case of 2 matured adults of the opposite gender),but is not the ultimate manifestation of expressing LOVE,---similarly easy money and stockmarket ,though compliment each other is not the ultimate maniifestation of expressing the stkmarket;---for we must remember that the stockmarket actually reflects the economics of a country;and so it is also our duty to see, that ,the stockmarket does not get ruptured in the tug of war between the bulls and the bears,and give a wrong signal to the global community,that may lead to the drainage of national wealth of our country,and ,finally,an ultimate collaspe which may prove fatal beyond repair.
Regards,
joy_mitali

Hello Joy

Ur first para in todays posts is as follows,the basic need ,immediate requiremt
physical-emotional and mental reuirment,after immediate reuirments enters the saturation zone and enjoy the fruits or grief,grief if further goals are set.

The life is continous process and journey and nature has given lots of goals,personal.society and intellectual.

Everything in this world whose logic can be well understood by human race with mind -the intellect. Human mind needs comfort level from the senses of Physio-emo-mental sides and these aspects are within us
which is well preserved in sex and spirtualism. Now dont u viewl stock market has the same texture.

All subject including God or spirtualism in this world can be understood by three ways First by experience second is by logic rational or science and third is by philosphy. To understand sex u need to have all the above three too, the wider subject as creation is created by sex -i.e.joining ,mixing with level of mind,togetherness,vibrations so in all process of creation in this earth unity is essential u call sex doesnot matter much. Gentleman life is one if creator is one ,v are enjoying different shades, Companies are different but they belong to the world for the betterment and livelihood of masses in the world. How best one performs is the excellent action of that cos.if it provides comfort to us v feel joy and happy.
I hope the sex is mess for creation, spirtualismis spice of creation, stock market ur playground or stadium to watch ur favourite game such as football,Tennis
or cricket and v find the best of them and enjoy.
Spirtualism is a philosphy made first,science second when ur are applying logic and experience third when you are practicing it.
Stock marketr is cocktail of both sharing,co-operative,enjoing fruits of togetherness applying mind and practicing it regularly.Emotions and passions enrich the sex and stockmarket butin spirtualism there is acontradictions of thoughts one school of thought says spirtualism is achieveable with emotional aspect,the second school of thought says no u have to go beyond mind . Can u help me sorting out I would love to hear view from urself and other learned friends in this regrads.Stockmarket has essence of life speculation,contigency,wagering.what after death,when where &how lide ascend and descend its parameters.The main question all religion books of the world.That is why it is soothing to many for its uncertianity. Money is main player too as u get sex like comfort from money too and enjoy.

With regards to all
Nksagar.com

Hi all---Respected seniors and juniors,
That today is Sunday----and also, that my wife has again gone to her parent's house, yesterday----has left me deserted in my house once again----In a way I am both enjoying my isolation---as well as missing my dearest ---

As I was scrolling through some old contents of this forum---Suddenly I remembered about this thread---and felt like writing some thing in it----

Friday was a day of great volatility in thr market,and BSE-senSEX has again reached
an undulated height---7272(+84 points) in the last hour of trade----breaking the peaks again and again this entire week---against all odds----somewhat like the repeated waves of orgasms in sex --when 2 independent bodies and minds rejubinate in grand unification,--- daring satisfation to its maximum extent----Also similar in aspects to the complete coherence of the inner and the outer selves ----which---one --- experiences in Spirituality---
But then ---the Question that comes in the mind is that---How long and to what level would the senSEX--have this grand rollercosta ride?Like a trough definitely follows a crest in the phenemena of wave propagation---The senSEX too will be subjected to a correction---some times hence---But has the crest been really attained or not is the MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION----which every trader has got to debate with his own self----and carry on in the journeys of Life and Death----THEREON----

Regrds,
joy_mitali