Intraday Stock Futures Strategy-less risk-steady returns

#1
Hi

Could anyone please share your views about this futures intraday strategy.

Please consider the below example.

Ispat Industries Share price Rs.20, lot size 11000, increase of 0.05 paise=11000*0.05= Rs.550

As per Zerodha, margin money needed to trade in futures is 50% of Span Margin.e st

Considering an increase of just 0.05 paise can give profit of Rs.200 to Rs.550.

So in a day, if we trade for just 4 or 5 times, the retuns can be Rs.800 to Rs.2500.

for any share with huge volumes can easily have a movement of 0.05 paise.

I will this will generate a steady returns if we STRICTLY FOLLOW STOP LOSS
 

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columbus

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#2
Hi

Could anyone please share your views about this futures intraday strategy.

Please consider the below example.

Ispat Industries Share price Rs.20, lot size 11000, increase of 0.05 paise=11000*0.05= Rs.550

As per Zerodha, margin money needed to trade in futures is 50% of Span Margin.e st

Considering an increase of just 0.05 paise can give profit of Rs.200 to Rs.550.

So in a day, if we trade for just 4 or 5 times, the retuns can be Rs.800 to Rs.2500.

for any share with huge volumes can easily have a movement of 0.05 paise.

I will this will generate a steady returns if we STRICTLY FOLLOW STOP LOSS
Hi Sanjay,

You have taken a case where the movement is in your trend direction.
Let us consider price movement against your trend by 50 paise.
You will see a MTM of -5500Rs.There is every chance you will close the
position,booking LOSS. In Stockfutures you have close entire lot,unlike
in intraday stock trading where the lot size is ONE only.
 
#3
Hi,

Thanks for ur reply. As far as I have seen the markets, the market always use to trade in one single direction @ the last 45 minutes.

so when we are sure about market direction and with strict STOP LOSS of 0.15 or .20 paise, we can minimize the loss when the trend goes against our position.

The main strategy here is we are just aiming for 0.05 paise profit which is reasonable i feel.

please have ur say
 
#4
Hi

Could anyone please share your views about this futures intraday strategy.

Please consider the below example.

Ispat Industries Share price Rs.20, lot size 11000, increase of 0.05 paise=11000*0.05= Rs.550

As per Zerodha, margin money needed to trade in futures is 50% of Span Margin.e st

Considering an increase of just 0.05 paise can give profit of Rs.200 to Rs.550.

So in a day, if we trade for just 4 or 5 times, the retuns can be Rs.800 to Rs.2500.

for any share with huge volumes can easily have a movement of 0.05 paise.

I will this will generate a steady returns if we STRICTLY FOLLOW STOP LOSS
Today i made a decent profit with Ispat industries, it was trading in the range of 19.35 to 19.40 from 09.30 to 10.15. so i was just shorting @ 19.40 and buying back @ 19.35. traded 6 times in this range and made Rs.3300 with one lot.

During the last one hour, it went down further and was traing in the range of 18.40 to 18.25, again I shorted here 5 times and made 2750Rs. profit.

with an investment of Rs.17,000, i made profit of Rs.6050 whic is more than 40% profit. So with less probability of failure and with correct sense of over all market direction, its is not so difficult to make money. (this profit is excluding brokerage)
 

PGDIMES

Well-Known Member
#6
Today i made a decent profit with Ispat industries, it was trading in the range of 19.35 to 19.40 from 09.30 to 10.15. so i was just shorting @ 19.40 and buying back @ 19.35. traded 6 times in this range and made Rs.3300 with one lot.

During the last one hour, it went down further and was traing in the range of 18.40 to 18.25, again I shorted here 5 times and made 2750Rs. profit.

with an investment of Rs.17,000, i made profit of Rs.6050 whic is more than 40% profit. So with less probability of failure and with correct sense of over all market direction, its is not so difficult to make money. (this profit is excluding brokerage)

Carry on Sanjay...We're watching:cool:...

Made similar trades in Punj Lloyd a few months back and had some amazing 100% success rate in more than 30 trades...Even on last Thursday made money in 3 trades on the same scrip...But stopped this kind of flipping...May be the urge to be a better trader:rofl:...

One advice...keep stop-loss tight & execute fast...Wish u all the best in this type of profit-in-mind scalping:thumb:...
 

alroyraj

Well-Known Member
#7
Hi,

Thanks for ur reply. As far as I have seen the markets, the market always use to trade in one single direction @ the last 45 minutes.

so when we are sure about market direction and with strict STOP LOSS of 0.15 or .20 paise, we can minimize the loss when the trend goes against our position.

The main strategy here is we are just aiming for 0.05 paise profit which is reasonable i feel.

please have ur say
So you are saying typically at market opening and market closing are attractive times to trade this,right..
Also to kept the stop loss immediately (limit buy) after entering the trade i.e short sell and bought back. So i guess your SL is more mental,right...
Anyways I can see the advantages: the risk is quite less since they move quite slowly and by going short and then covering you gave adequate respect o the prevailing market conditions. Quite balanced this strategy is.
 
#8
Carry on Sanjay...We're watching:cool:...

Made similar trades in Punj Lloyd a few months back and had some amazing 100% success rate in more than 30 trades...Even on last Thursday made money in 3 trades on the same scrip...But stopped this kind of flipping...May be the urge to be a better trader:rofl:...

One advice...keep stop-loss tight & execute fast...Wish u all the best in this type of profit-in-mind scalping:thumb:...
Yes, STOP LOSS is very important in this kind of trading. Don't hesitate or wait for your targets if your position hits SL. May be 2 or 3 times your trade may end up in loss but winning probability is comparatively high.
 
#9
wow!! this strategy really works well..

today did the same kind of trading with GMR Infra, shorted @ 50.25 and kept on buying back @ 0.05 paise difference. finally i closed my position @ 49.25.

did 20 trades, lot size 4000, profit of 0.05*12*4000= Rs.4000 profit with an investment of Rs.11000 which is nearly 40% profit.

Lesson learnt: When you are comfortable with any particular pattern of trading strategy which gives you a decent returns, then try doing the same pattern and become an expert in that particular strategy. Don't be greedy and increase ur lot size or target.
 

nac

Well-Known Member
#10
wow!! this strategy really works well..

today did the same kind of trading with GMR Infra, shorted @ 50.25 and kept on buying back @ 0.05 paise difference. finally i closed my position @ 49.25.

did 20 trades, lot size 4000, profit of 0.05*12*4000= Rs.4000 profit with an investment of Rs.11000 which is nearly 40% profit.

Lesson learnt: When you are comfortable with any particular pattern of trading strategy which gives you a decent returns, then try doing the same pattern and become an expert in that particular strategy. Don't be greedy and increase ur lot size or target.
Sanjay I am glad you are doing good at this strategy...

I am kinda like this strategy and tried, but I wasn't successful. I am glad you are...

I am really glad you are successful in scalping when I am feeling this market is not for scalping. You are proving I am wrong.

I am surprised by the margin requirement. Your broker offers very good margin to trade.

Just one thing....

Always look what you could lose rather than what you could get from trade.

All the best...
 

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