Investors, think twice bfor selling...

mahmeds2000 · #11 22nd May 2006, 08:49 PM

hi all,
I think retail invester who didn't not able to put the stop loss and in huge loss now approximatly 25% should be stay invested as FII and mutual fund have been buyers in the market today.

Best of Luck

ahmed

Czar · #12 22nd May 2006, 09:00 PM

cant help with that, but its a lesson learnt I hope - you should now change title to "Investors - stick to strict stops, if you think twice, you will loose twice as much..."

pkjha30 · #13 23rd May 2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pkjha30

Well First of the signs are here

1.Big News splashed across the front page that "No plan to re-introduce Long Term Capital Gains Tax
2. Rules out review of tax pact with Mauritius.
3. PC informed that inflation (in India is under control below 4%)

Sheeps have already been slaughtered. Wolves will be back with bang once frightened sheeps(those who are outside the manger) are comforted again.

Another cue will be FII's turning net buyer, but before that FROG Factor.
Wait for that to happen. You jump when FII's jump. Indian Market is still immature.

I don't track Dow or other markets
Somebody can tell if they are up as and when

Pankaj

Here's sign number two

1. RBI assures that there is no liquidity crunch. Advised banks to approach RBI for help if required.
2. SEBI says there is no settlement problems.
3. Govt. agencies are main purchasers (ordered to purchase??)

Still we have to wait for global cues, FROGs to start croacking and FIIs jumping in( they won't kill golden goose as amitbe said, taken home some golden eggs ,since they are responsible to their shareholders not our's). Then you will see TA/FA improving with improved sentiments.
As usual , retail investors will be scared and will be late to enter.

Wait till the next three comes in. I would suggest to study and keep ready list of strong companies.

This advice is not for technical traders but for long term investor.

Pankaj

AMITBE · #14 23rd May 2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pkjha30

Here's sign number two

1. RBI assures that there is no liquidity crunch. Advised banks to approach RBI for help if required.
2. SEBI says there is no settlement problems.
3. Govt. agencies are main purchasers (ordered to purchase??)

Still we have to wait for global cues, FROGs to start croacking and FIIs jumping in( they won't kill golden goose as amitbe said, taken home some golden eggs ,since they are responsible to their shareholders not our's). Then you will see TA/FA improving with improved sentiments.
As usual , retail investors will be scared and will be late to enter.

Wait till the next three comes in. I would suggest to study and keep ready list of strong companies.

This advice is not for technical traders but for long term investor.

Pankaj

Very good, Pankaj...simple and clear and sensible.
Keep it up.

pkjha30 · #15 23rd May 2006, 12:24 PM

Hi Amit

Glad that you liked it. This is in line with general approach you have stated earlier in various posts and also by nkp in his thread 23rd May 2006.

Next I will put some correlative data on FII actions and indices movement. That will be also regarding liquidity and who makes it.

I entirely agree with you saint and nkp on many aspects. I would also say valuation is a matter of perception and future plans and emotions.Those trading, had they followed SAINT's advice of stop losses , would not have suffered much.

I sicerely wish that every member of this forum recovers from the shock (and wiser )before it is too late.

One more thing, Govt of the day will always be bullish as market sentiments erode credibility, investment plans and confidence in economy which they can ill afford(except for botching up thoroughly, a possibility which always looms large when badraggled coalition rules the roost).
Govt policies are not decided by market/economic factors alone and market is not decided by pure fundamentals and technicals ,as nkp aptly put, its a question of emotions ,we are all human beings.

regards
Pankaj

ganeshhity · #16 23rd May 2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pkjha30

Hi Amit

Glad that you liked it. This is in line with general approach you have stated earlier in various

beings.

regards
Pankaj

oki boss, bulls back on street........
I put some money today....took it back at some profit........

be a trader in this market...never overtrade, at the end of the day, take your money back to home...

bulls are back now....back on streets...let's hope so..

best of luck..thanks pkjha..thanks for such simple lucid explaination..

ganeshhity

ganeshhity · #17 23rd May 2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Czar

cant help with that, but its a lesson learnt I hope - you should now change title to "Investors - stick to strict stops, if you think twice, you will loose twice as much..."

owe...fantastic...

ganeshhity

pkjha30 · #18 23rd May 2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ganeshhity

oki boss, bulls back on street........
I put some money today....took it back at some profit........

be a trader in this market...never overtrade, at the end of the day, take your money back to home...

bulls are back now....back on streets...let's hope so..

best of luck..thanks pkjha..thanks for such simple lucid explaination..

ganeshhity

Hi ganesh

Nice to see you in good spirit. Remember what amit or nkp said its not bulls or bears but its about making money either way. AS SAINT would say I follow thee(indices).

I am nither of them not even a trader just plain simple ordinary Indian Investor worried like hell about his money but little optimistic. If that makes me bull so be it.It is always nice to be in good company

Pankaj

srinivasud · #19 23rd May 2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pkjha30

Here's sign number two

1. RBI assures that there is no liquidity crunch. Advised banks to approach RBI for help if required.
2. SEBI says there is no settlement problems.
3. Govt. agencies are main purchasers (ordered to purchase??)

Still we have to wait for global cues, FROGs to start croacking and FIIs jumping in( they won't kill golden goose as amitbe said, taken home some golden eggs ,since they are responsible to their shareholders not our's). Then you will see TA/FA improving with improved sentiments.
As usual , retail investors will be scared and will be late to enter.

Wait till the next three comes in. I would suggest to study and keep ready list of strong companies.

This advice is not for technical traders but for long term investor.

Pankaj

Still the Global Markets are not quite settled due to uncertanities in US Market. So our markets will follow suit, hope US will declare the true figures of thier Inflation (which they are hiding all these days) and Holes in their GDP (currently it is assumed that US is barrowing more than 2.5 Billion a day - Budget Gap & Imports over Exports)

And all the sudden the raise in the US Interest Rate will hurt a lot of Lending institutions in US, which eventually fall on others. We may see one more Enron in the due course (this is the experts view in London)

Srini

ganeshhity · #20 23rd May 2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pkjha30

Hi ganesh

Nice to see you in good spirit. Remember what amit or nkp said its not bulls or bears but its about making money either way. AS SAINT would say I follow thee(indices).

I am nither of them not even a trader just plain simple ordinary Indian Investor worried like hell about his money but little optimistic. If that makes me bull so be it.It is always nice to be in good company

Pankaj

pankaj,
It's not about spirits...you mentioned it right, it's all about making money...I've done six trades from today morning and made 12000/- by now... i've taken back my cash....till day before yesterday, I was sitting on a loss of 1.75 lacks...I've covered 25 thousand yesterday and today......

Name of the game is"Trade Wise"...do not panic and trade...you minted loss at one go...never try to cover those losses in one go....you'll burn your hands fully in that case......

The world markets are not settled yet....be wise, cool mind and bet...now atleast for god's sake put stoplosses in place....

The thing which goes down will come up.....enter, exit,enter,exit........try to cover as much possible before the markets settle down..then think of long term investments.......and yes, as i always warn "Never Overtrade"....
you'll definitely cover your losses and emerge as a winner....

DO NOT FORGET TO TAKE BACK CASH AT HOME IN THE EVENING...THE MARKETS ARE CHOPPY STILL NOW....BE WISE......CLEAR YOUR BAGS AND GO HOME IN THE EVENING

Best of luck..

Happy trading..

ganeshhity

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