Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

Discuss Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008 at the Equities within the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex; It was long in coming. Much anticipated correction since October 2007. The crash during october ...


Go Back   Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex > THE MARKETS > Equities
Register Blogs FAQ Chat Room Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Equities Discuss & analyse stock market news, views, trends and your favourite stocks here.


Welcome to the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please read the FAQ.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Sponsored Links
  #1  
Old 21st January 2008, 03:06 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: India
Posts: 1,464
pkjha30 will become famous soon enough
Default Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008



It was long in coming. Much anticipated correction since October 2007.

The crash during october 2007 actually did not happen. That was a side show to get retail investors lulled into believing that market can bravely take a hit and move up easily. As always last rung of current uptrend is signaled by a flurry of cheap mid cap or upcoming stocks.They rush in to invest and and find most stocks are over priced and try to find some thing that suits their budget no matter what FA/TA says.

The current crash truly signifies a CRASH and market will be in for a long haul to repair the damages resulting from it.

Currently both sensex and nifty is hovering around their 200EMA mark which was pointed out earlier on in my thread of Crash and FII activities (17.5.2008).

That time market was around 17K and EMA was 12500 or so for sensex and proportionately for nifty.

Now EMA200=5068. Nifty has already come to this level. So if it does not bounce back from this level withing a month and break above EMA 100 ( 5567), market will be in for trouble on long term basis.The breakout has to happen on sustained strong volumes. The weakness will persist for months in midcap and small caps.

1.FIIs have been largely net sellers during this month. Since 14th Jan they are huge sellers as usual.
2. Govt has permitted them to short sell so they may be gaining hugely on both ways. Their hold on market will be still stronger and can take it where ever they want to.
3. No of tip giving threads had increased in this forum, of late.

However there is a note of optimism here with a word of caution.
(what is written below is purely speculative and may not have bearings on market in abnormal situations such as bear trend being confirmed.)

FIIs and their bankers have burned heavily in USA sub prime crash. Before closure of FY08 they are milking the cash cow to straighten their Books.
But it may not be killed off. So For the time being there is no option for the market but to go up and it will achieve its stated target of 25000 or above by year end.

Budget is due in February 2008 and it will take note of the situation. Indian companies will have good news so watch finance ministry and Chidambram very carefully.It will help.

Fundamentally strong companies will always bounce back early. So watch out for your favorite stocks.
Long term investors will benefit most from the crash as they might loose some profit(if not booked partially) but gains will be more.

2009 is an election year so we will have to face uncertain times in 2009.

Indian economy will perform better and hence market may go up.

In fact I see the scope of growth in the countries like India China Russia and so called emerging markets by sheer weight of population.

In sum this crash has come at a good time, when there is scope of good news flow in future and hence fast recovery. So it is an opportunity for long term investors to get into action and search for good quality stocks.

After all FOOLS who buy early are relatively wise .

Remember, Jallikattu( Bull Taming Game in Tamilnadu) is held every year. That means there has to be a BULL that needs to be tamed ( and every year)

Pankaj

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21st January 2008, 03:59 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pune
Posts: 629
Blog Entries: 3
MiLiNDOnline is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

Hi Pankaj,

Thanks for this useful information and your thoughts, I enjoyed reading it

What I would like to ask you is - do you think that in next couple of days there is a definate possibility that we can see GREEN Color on index?

Or do you think the Holi mainly with RED color is likely to continue? I will appreciate your views.

Regards,


Quote:
Originally Posted by pkjha30 View Post
It was long in coming. Much anticipated correction since October 2007.

The crash during october 2007 actually did not happen. That was a side show to get retail investors lulled into believing that market can bravely take a hit and move up easily. As always last rung of current uptrend is signaled by a flurry of cheap mid cap or upcoming stocks.They rush in to invest and and find most stocks are over priced and try to find some thing that suits their budget no matter what FA/TA says.

The current crash truly signifies a CRASH and market will be in for a long haul to repair the damages resulting from it.

Currently both sensex and nifty is hovering around their 200EMA mark which was pointed out earlier on in my thread of Crash and FII activities (17.5.2008).

That time market was around 17K and EMA was 12500 or so for sensex and proportionately for nifty.

Now EMA200=5068. Nifty has already come to this level. So if it does not bounce back from this level withing a month and break above EMA 100 ( 5567), market will be in for trouble on long term basis.The breakout has to happen on sustained strong volumes. The weakness will persist for months in midcap and small caps.

1.FIIs have been largely net sellers during this month. Since 14th Jan they are huge sellers as usual.
2. Govt has permitted them to short sell so they may be gaining hugely on both ways. Their hold on market will be still stronger and can take it where ever they want to.
3. No of tip giving threads had increased in this forum, of late.

However there is a note of optimism here with a word of caution.
(what is written below is purely speculative and may not have bearings on market in abnormal situations such as bear trend being confirmed.)

FIIs and their bankers have burned heavily in USA sub prime crash. Before closure of FY08 they are milking the cash cow to straighten their Books.
But it may not be killed off. So For the time being there is no option for the market but to go up and it will achieve its stated target of 25000 or above by year end.

Budget is due in February 2008 and it will take note of the situation. Indian companies will have good news so watch finance ministry and Chidambram very carefully.It will help.

Fundamentally strong companies will always bounce back early. So watch out for your favorite stocks.
Long term investors will benefit most from the crash as they might loose some profit(if not booked partially) but gains will be more.

2009 is an election year so we will have to face uncertain times in 2009.

Indian economy will perform better and hence market may go up.

In fact I see the scope of growth in the countries like India China Russia and so called emerging markets by sheer weight of population.

In sum this crash has come at a good time, when there is scope of good news flow in future and hence fast recovery. So it is an opportunity for long term investors to get into action and search for good quality stocks.

After all FOOLS who buy early are relatively wise .

Remember, Jallikattu( Bull Taming Game in Tamilnadu) is held every year. That means there has to be a BULL that needs to be tamed ( and every year)

Pankaj

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21st January 2008, 04:12 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 15
lucastp_532 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

i dont understand what u people are saying, at what price will sensex open on 22, 23, 24, and close?

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21st January 2008, 04:30 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,446
sudoku1 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucastp_532 View Post
i dont understand what u people are saying, at what price will sensex open on 22, 23, 24, and close?
u will understand with the time.....
till sensex closes abv 18450 , bulls will not know from where they came from.........!!!!!

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21st January 2008, 04:46 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1
rrege is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

What all stocks do u suggest then .Considering this as a +ve sign of things to come.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 21st January 2008, 05:01 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10
myelvis is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

"That means there has to be a BULL that needs to be tamed ( and every year)"

Very well Said Sir . Unfortunately I was riding the tamed bull so badly bruised

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 21st January 2008, 05:09 PM
RSI RSI is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 356
RSI is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

Pankaj,

This cruel procedure will maim the bull instead of taming. Just joking
As usual, a very informative post. Thanks

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 21st January 2008, 05:20 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pune
Posts: 629
Blog Entries: 3
MiLiNDOnline is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by rrege View Post
What all stocks do u suggest then .Considering this as a +ve sign of things to come.
Wait!

4 few more days.. Dont rush... as of yet

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 21st January 2008, 07:45 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 172
surfingminds is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

I am buying for every 500 dip and keep it gong. It seems a good shopping season for long term investor. good brands on sale with good discount.
Hope to see more discount till march/

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 21st January 2008, 08:55 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,446
sudoku1 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taming of the BULL-Crash of 21 Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by faltub View Post
billion doller question is will nifty bounce back from 4882 or continue to 4400-4100.......?

BUT THE TRILLION DOLLAR thing is that mkts have entered bear grip & bears will lose fur only abv 18475 close....

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 08:37 AM.

Indemnity, Disclaimer & Disclosure Notice:
• By visiting Traderji.com you indicate your acceptance of our Forum Rules Disclaimer & Disclosure and indemnify Traderji.com, its associates and related parties of all claims howsoever resulting from the usage of the forum.
Disclaimer: Trading or investing in stocks & commodities is a high risk activity. Any action you choose to take in the markets is totally your own responsibility. Traderji.com will not be liable for any, direct or indirect, consequential or incidental damages or loss arising out of the use of this information.
Disclosure: The information in this forum is neither an offer to sell nor solicitation to buy any of the securities mentioned herein. The writers may or may not be trading in the securities mentioned.
• All names or products mentioned are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners.
General Content Disclaimer Notice:
In light of our policy of encouraging candid, open exchanges of views and the rapid distribution of information originating from many sources, Traderji.com cannot determine the accuracy of information that may be uploaded to the forum. Opinions, advice and all other information expressed by participants in discussions are those of the author. You rely on such information at your own risk. You are urged to seek professional advice for specific, individual situations and not rely solely on advice or opinions given in the discussions. Since Traderji.com is an open and free discussion forum, any comments made by members of this forum in their posts reflect their own views and not of the owner or administrator of Traderji.com. Thus the owner/administrator indemnify themselves of all claims whatsoever and will not be liable or responsible for any members comments/views in this forum Traderji.com. If you find any objectionable or offensive posts made by members of this forum which you would like to bring to our notice for removal then please Contact Us.
 


Copyright © 2001 - 2008, Traderji.com All Rights Reserved.

Recommended Websites - www.TradersEdgeIndia.com - www.TradingPicks.com - www.HiFiVision.com - www.MasterOfTrading.com - www.NotebookTalk.com