How accurate you are in Identifying a Multibagger.

romanov · #41 1st February 2008, 07:15 AM

Nothing against you..I have and will always stood by what I say..whether it was for correction or gains.The date of post is still there..let's watch together and hope Market grows.

p.s.: As far as the other investors who make their Judgement based on my statements.I agree with you 100% and it's scary to misguide someone. And that was never my intention.If mods think the same ..I would request them to please delete this thread.
However in my defense when I earlier stated that Market actually will fell on given date and will stay in given range..whoever has listened must have benefitted and not harmed.

I won't be posting hereon.

fizzler · #42 1st February 2008, 09:23 AM

romanov,

i dont follow your thread. but i would like you to continue posting. forget frustrated people. trading and investing requires a lot of patience, so if someone doesnt have patience he does not belong to market and you should stop worrying about them.

i cant understand why people crib when market falls. they should try and learn instead of crying.

fizzler · #43 1st February 2008, 09:27 AM

And i also agree with you in that i think all so called analysts only cater to themselves. so when they give a buy call you can safely assume that they are going to sell their holdings in next few days and vice versa......

I think all these analysts calls need to be analysed with portfolios they manage. and if they sell after giving a buy call they should be banned from appearing in public. i wont be surprised that more than half of them get banned.

digest · #44 1st February 2008, 12:51 PM

romonov,
keep posting.

RPL, i strongly believe will give GOOD returns if not 10 times.

without dreams nothing comes true
and natrually we are not goin to gamble everything we have we are only INVESTING what we can risk.

and as far as RPL is concerend in one year time it wont be less than current market price.
at least minimum in worst circumstances it should give 20% above current prices and that is much better than any bank deposit without tax

so its positive and planned approach.

romonov if u think u are gooin to receive 100% acceptance(from people) then u are wrong
where ever we go what ever we say we will always find ppl who oppose us.
its upon us if we are scared by them.
and i am sure we cant let peopl control our thoughts.

one should listen to all and learn.
even if one is master.

i am not against someone but even negative comments are important if taken contructively

and all those who think opposite should also comment.

thats how we all will educate ourself.

like many think that market will go down further i am still investing slowly and if it goes down further i will still buy.

my purchases are for long term now say for a year(atelast).

MiLiNDOnline · #45 1st February 2008, 06:28 PM

Hi Romanov,

A well oriented post. Enjoyed reading your views and it seems that you are favoring RPL as a strong buy call.

Would you please clear me on the following on what you said-

p.s. 1: Lastly...the Mrkts have not yet bottomed,for some time there will be false sense of calm...but they will sunk further.

--> What do you think is the level when you can say ok now market has been bottomed out to extent? Is that 12,000, is that 13,000 or is that 10k levels?

Lastly...the Mrkts have not yet bottomed --> When you said this it shows an impression of authority on what you are saying it is also giving me a feeling that you have a figure in your mind that ok at this figure I can say markets have been b.out! What is that number?

Thanks & I look forward to your soonest reply on this.

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Originally Posted by romanov

I always am surprised,how soon the conviction swagger in such a short period of time....More than ever these are the times when stock picking should Increase in small quantity...as Far as Trgts are concerned..I very much beg to Differ...not for all the stocks in the Poll ...But for some of them Definite yes.That's why the Poll.

BRIC...From past one year,much before the correction, I have stopped Investing in only Fundamentally strong stocks...Essential part of my stock picking is having Following three elements:

1) Fundamentals
2) Speculation
3) Resilience Swing Valuation.

If you really want to make money and Justify the Trgts...your pick should have all the three important ingredients.

For e.g.: Take most voted stock till now,

RPL -->
1) Fundamentals are good,with added advantage is Reliance Brand name attached to it. ----My Buy Price will be 150-170...If Lucky during Correction 110-130...If Further correction 70-90..I have kept my Funds allocated for these three zones.If more correction I wait..(You should always invest that amount which you will not need for next 5 year)

2) Speculation....The biggest negative thing that happened to this stock was sell off by Promoters...otherwise this stock would have touched mark of 400+ much earlier.
Along came the Spec that there can be a Merger with RIL in 1:20 or 1:11 ..who cares what Tulsian says or research report by Financial comp say..they all have erred in past,for once start using your own judgement..analyst just predict and never state,,these guys were predicting lot of Trgts and giving Buy reco at 210 level ..unless it's officialy anounced by MDA,I don't care.My reasoning say it's just a spec..there are enough reasons from Tax benefits to SEZ valuation that any such merger not possible till 2010.

If there can be false Spec to led the price go up..there are enough reason to keep Price down...One of them was in this case to keep Operators away from punting these stocks,and not really to scare genuine Investors away,I won't go into details here but do your own research as I do,,talk with RPL employees,MDs and frds.Jamnagar is one of the most buzzing place..huge orders are in pipeline.

3) Swing stocks...I have previously laid emphasis on the importance of Booking Profit and being proactive in the Market...
The idea is to make money...Gone are the days when you invest in stock and forget about it for years.Here you need to keep booking profits.

4) Now comes the last Part...TRGTS.
In the Asian Mrkts ,,there are only one set of Players FII's ..what do you think ,does any of the valuation at today's level are justified NO.
There strategy is simple...take mrkts to such high level..so that even if Mrkts Fall..the stock price still seems attractive,and people invest.That's what happening today..that's why even the RPL at 160 looks mouth watering as compared to previous 230...

Advice : Mrkts are definetly going to bottom out...but accordingly in long term Mrkts are going to Bounce much higher..yes to 35000.How it's early but I will try to state the date range once I am clear with some of the events.And that's why the TRGT.I even removed the exact TRGTs..because right now they do not seem justifiable even to me.

But I am in a habit of dreaming Big and 2 years down the line..So I apologise

US recession.. "Unless somebody won't become little Poor - Somebody won't become Rich."..Why do you think Richer won't be us??

For myself: I have started Buying my fav stocks in less quantity,keeping enough funds to average out in case of Global catastrophe.

p.s. 1: Lastly...the Mrkts have not yet bottomed,for some time there will be false sense of calm...but they will sunk further.

p.s.: 2 There is only one rule in Business, and i.e. how much loss you can sustain ? If you can sustain enough loss...eventually you will outsmart your competitors.
And once there is no Competitor you will only end up in Profits.Same philosophy applies to Stock Market as well.When no one is able to Buy and you can still afford to buy some more- So PLAN accordingly!!

p.s.: 3 20% or 30 % return to ek mahine mai mil raha hai ajkal(Aur 50% jata bhi hai ek session mai

)....Start thinking Big.

digest · #46 1st February 2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MiLiNDOnline

Hi Romanov,

A well oriented post. Enjoyed reading your views and it seems that you are favoring RPL as a strong buy call.

Would you please clear me on the following on what you said-

p.s. 1: Lastly...the Mrkts have not yet bottomed,for some time there will be false sense of calm...but they will sunk further.

--> What do you think is the level when you can say ok now market has been bottomed out to extent? Is that 12,000, is that 13,000 or is that 10k levels?

Lastly...the Mrkts have not yet bottomed --> When you said this it shows an impression of authority on what you are saying it is also giving me a feeling that you have a figure in your mind that ok at this figure I can say markets have been b.out! What is that number?

Thanks & I look forward to your soonest reply on this.

Even i want to know.

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Originally Posted by romanov

Mark my words if there is a correction it will be from 17th to 25th Jan
OR 18th to 23rd Feb...mrkts will keep slipping there on,and we will acheive the trgt price to enter...Mrkts will correct upto 16387 to 18225.

and this post on 14th jan was also posted by you and nobody here could have second this opinion and it happened. thus we look forward for your reply.

romanov · #47 1st February 2008, 09:44 PM

Hi Milind/Digest/Fizzler..thanks for converting it to a Constructive discussion..

Milind ..I do not wanted to state a date range so soon....but this is what it should be ---sometime from 25thFeb- 7thMar or around May22-June 3rd,I see Markets bottomming out further to an extent of 12767-14312.But this bottoming out should be short lived for our Market and will be primarily on account of extentive Global weaknesses per se and will not reflect weakness in our domestc Markets.Economist around the Globe are trying hard to avert a Global meltdown prolonging the dates...of Crash

By the year end Indian Markets will be back on track and will be on Bull run- How strong is too early to State.

There is lot of weakness Technically at Global perspective....I am not worried about US recession as most of the anlaysts are Predicting...for Indian Market Achilles heal is China..we are getting awfully linked to Chinese Market...and the Hedging Bubble is much more in China..If they go Down than we go Down.

US is still not out of Blues..and more significantly there are no factors in near forseeable future to Jumpstart the Economy..G.Bush administration is only trying to avert and postpone the Market Crashing...If you watch the speeches of would be Presidents there are clear sign of Nervousness regarding US economy...and backlash against China is cleary visible..which will have unwanted fallout on India as Well.

p.s. 1: Important ..I am not giving any Buy Calls on RPL,this is decision which an Individual needs to take after proper analysis..my statement is being misconstrued..But yes sticking to what I said RPL is good buy and also speculative in nature-- that makes it a good combo.Try to do bottom fishing for this stock and in years time it will have good returns--I will come with an authoritative Trgt soon.

p.s. 2 V.ImportantIf you will go through my earlier posts..I have very clearly mentioned the correction dates and also a short term Bounce back rally followed by IT sector much before.

digest · #48 1st February 2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by romanov

Hi Milind/Digest/Fizzler..thanks for converting it to a Constructive discussion..

Milind ..I do not wanted to state a date range so soon....but this is what it should be ---sometime from 25thFeb- 7thMar or around May22-June 3rd,I see Markets bottomming out further to an extent of 12767-14312.But this bottoming out should be short lived for our Market and will be primarily on account of extentive Global weaknesses per se and will not reflect weakness in our domestc Markets.Economist around the Globe are trying hard to avert a Global meltdown prolonging the dates...of Crash

By the year end Indian Markets will be back on track and will be on Bull run- How strong is too early to State.

There is lot of weakness Technically at Global perspective....I am not worried about US recession as most of the anlaysts are Predicting...for Indian Market Achilles heal is China..we are getting awfully linked to Chinese Market...and the Hedging Bubble is much more in China..If they go Down than we go Down.

US is still not out of Blues..and more significantly there are no factors in near forseeable future to Jumpstart the Economy..G.Bush administration is only trying to avert and postpone the Market Crashing...If you watch the speeches of would be Presidents there are clear sign of Nervousness regarding US economy...and backlash against China is cleary visible..which will have unwanted fallout on India as Well.

p.s. 1: Important ..I am not giving any Buy Calls on RPL,this is decision which an Individual needs to take after proper analysis..my statement is being misconstrued..But yes sticking to what I said RPL is good buy and also speculative in nature-- that makes it a good combo.Try to do bottom fishing for this stock and in years time it will have good returns--I will come with an authoritative Trgt soon.

p.s. 2 V.ImportantIf you will go through my earlier posts..I have very clearly mentioned the correction dates and also a short term Bounce back rally followed by IT sector much before.

nice to see your post again,
thanks romonov,

for a quick reply,

yes u have posted it earlier

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Originally Posted by romanov

Mrkts are going to Tank down further with limted bounce back....around April 23rd onwards Mrkt's will be seen going up..led by IT stocks.

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Originally Posted by romanov

I have written somewhere on this thread earlier as well..market will Bounce slightly again don't be infatuated with it...It is going to fall more...If you are Investing however..Only Blue Chips and Fundamentally sound stocks...I will wait for more..which is around 13k-14k..ans as I hv earlier predicted the range for Market is going to be in for some time..check previous posts.

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Originally Posted by romanov

You may be surprised now...but Mark these words "Don't Let IT listed stocks get out from your(Indian Investor's) hand"

yatishjain · #49 1st February 2008, 10:23 PM

I definenitely agree with ROmanov but the dates may vary +-15 days. But hear me out as 21000 will be seen again before the market crashes again. Thats for sure. As for my analysis i have thought also about the US recession hitting high by April or May. So around this time the markets can see the bears growling tight..... Lets keep our finger crossed, for as for now only Good word in the market is REliance Power is back and back with all the markets money.

digest · #50 1st February 2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by romanov

p.s. 1: Important ..I am not giving any Buy Calls on RPL,this is decision which an Individual needs to take after proper analysis..my statement is being misconstrued..But yes sticking to what I said RPL is good buy and also speculative in nature-- that makes it a good combo.Try to do bottom fishing for this stock and in years time it will have good returns--I will come with an authoritative Trgt soon.

Will wait for RPL trgt price.

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