Define Speculation & gambling

Discuss Define Speculation & gambling at the Equities within the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex; Dear Friends, I often come across People commenting "Speculation & Gambling" while trading ...


Go Back   Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex > THE MARKETS > Equities
Register Blogs FAQ Chat Room Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Equities Discuss & analyse stock market news, views, trends and your favourite stocks here.


Welcome to the Traderji.com - Discussion forum for Stocks Commodities & Forex.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please read the FAQ.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Sponsored Links
  #1  
Old 7th April 2007, 06:07 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 246
rangarajan is on a distinguished road
Default Define Speculation & gambling



Dear Friends,
I often come across People commenting "Speculation & Gambling" while trading in stocks.
Could you define the meaning of both in general & then in particular with respect to trading in shares, without any ambiguity,so that even a lay man could understand the difference if any,preferably with an example.
If they are different,how these actions affect an individual,both psychologically & materialistically.
Happy trading.
ranga

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 7th April 2007, 06:24 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 49
rajeshrao1 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Only difference between Speculation and Gambling is risk management.
The word Speculation means--"to look-after"(risk)

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7th April 2007, 06:32 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: thethirdplanet
Posts: 653
sunil saranjame is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Speculation: 1. Sending your kids to school, hoping they will pass! 2. Hoping that your 8:20 bus will come on time, and you will reach your office by 10.

Gambling: 1. Sending your kids to school, hoping they will end up in MIT. 2. Hoping Ash will give you a ride at 8:20 and you will reach office, half an hour earlier!

ss


Last edited by sunil saranjame : 7th April 2007 at 06:34 PM. Reason: r
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 7th April 2007, 07:55 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3
rameshraja is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Hello Mr Rangarajan

Speculation in financial market happens for price discovery for an asset. It is more of scientific and based on well established theories and techniques. Whereas, the gambling is based on hunch and doesnot have any scientific approach.

In speculation you know your risk tolerance and exit with small profit or loss, whereas in Gambling your capital is lost, if your hunch is wrong.

I trust, I am right in my explanation.

C T Ramesh Raja

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 7th April 2007, 08:47 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 246
rangarajan is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Dear Mr.Ramesh Raja,
Welcome to this eminent forum.
If you are the same RR who gives daily trading levels for Intraday Trading at 'icharts.com',pl accept my compliments for the Amazing accuracy,with which the shares behave at yr levels esp at Break down & Break out to reach the targets.This is available FREE at icharts & members may visit & experience the thrill themselves.
Readers may pl refer to my thread on "Break out & B.D levels for stocks"where Traderji had given some useful tips aswell.
Coming back to yr reply,i wonder why not the same risk tolerance & exit could not be applied for Gambling aswell & why wait till the capital is lost.
Happy trading,
ranga

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 8th April 2007, 04:16 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 622
oilman5 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

i am commenting....all defn and explanation excellently expressed..
beautifully illustrated..

gambling..more on instinct driven, achieving fun or excitement..at the cost of time and money...
speculation:..ultimate goal of daytrader..
he knows risk involve, ultimate odd
normally taken on known stock..where due to superiority of knowledge risk is less, as chance factor is there,he is prepared to SAVE MONEY, EARLIEST SIGNAL KNOWING HE IS WRONG..

NOTE. we aim to speculate, but turn to gambling. due to internal conflict
thus go through roller-coaster... crash land or safe land depending upon luck

oilman5

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 8th April 2007, 04:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 422
rajesh.sadhanala is on a distinguished road
Talking Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Quote:
Originally Posted by oilman5 View Post
i am commenting....all defn and explanation excellently expressed..
beautifully illustrated..

gambling..more on instinct driven, achieving fun or excitement..at the cost of time and money...
speculation:..ultimate goal of daytrader..
he knows risk involve, ultimate odd
normally taken on known stock..where due to superiority of knowledge risk is less, as chance factor is there,he is prepared to SAVE MONEY, EARLIEST SIGNAL KNOWING HE IS WRONG..

NOTE. we aim to speculate, but turn to gambling. due to internal conflict
thus go through roller-coaster... crash land or safe land depending upon luck

oilman5
Nice way to put it. Whatever be it, need to have that background to take the hit or u r gone. (ram naam satye hain)

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 8th April 2007, 04:47 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3
rameshraja is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Mr Ranagarajan

I am the same C T Ramesh Raja and I am only posting my Breakout Technical System for day trading in icharts.in. I am willing to help daytraders herealos with the same set of levels. Since I am new to this Forum, I do not know how to do this and will the people here accept me. I Also do not know the moderator of this forum and going forward with my association here, I will be become more comfortable.

Thanks for your nice words.

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 9th April 2007, 09:08 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 565
winstonn is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Hi CT RR,

glad to see you on this forum , hope we all could learn a lot from you.

Regards,
Winston

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 9th April 2007, 09:19 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,209
uasish will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Define Speculation & gambling

Hi,
Result manifestation in both
Gambling = absolute Random;
Speculation = A pattern in Random;(This yr the Science Nobel prize is given to an Economist ,where he showed there may be a definite pattern in Randomness).

Asish

NB: Nasem Taleb's Book "Fooled by Randomness" has very well depicted the conflict in stock trading.


Last edited by uasish : 9th April 2007 at 09:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads for: Define Speculation & gambling
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Secrets of Professional Stock Market Speculation amarnath Technical Analysis 10 20th January 2007 03:21 PM
The Art of Speculation SwamiNathan Risk & Money Management 0 2nd December 2006 08:19 PM
Speculation keeps pepper futures hot Robbie Commodities 0 27th September 2006 04:11 AM



All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 10:26 AM.

Indemnity, Disclaimer & Disclosure Notice:
• By visiting Traderji.com you indicate your acceptance of our Forum Rules Disclaimer & Disclosure and indemnify Traderji.com, its associates and related parties of all claims howsoever resulting from the usage of the forum.
Disclaimer: Trading or investing in stocks & commodities is a high risk activity. Any action you choose to take in the markets is totally your own responsibility. Traderji.com will not be liable for any, direct or indirect, consequential or incidental damages or loss arising out of the use of this information.
Disclosure: The information in this forum is neither an offer to sell nor solicitation to buy any of the securities mentioned herein. The writers may or may not be trading in the securities mentioned.
• All names or products mentioned are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners.
General Content Disclaimer Notice:
In light of our policy of encouraging candid, open exchanges of views and the rapid distribution of information originating from many sources, Traderji.com cannot determine the accuracy of information that may be uploaded to the forum. Opinions, advice and all other information expressed by participants in discussions are those of the author. You rely on such information at your own risk. You are urged to seek professional advice for specific, individual situations and not rely solely on advice or opinions given in the discussions. Since Traderji.com is an open and free discussion forum, any comments made by members of this forum in their posts reflect their own views and not of the owner or administrator of Traderji.com. Thus the owner/administrator indemnify themselves of all claims whatsoever and will not be liable or responsible for any members comments/views in this forum Traderji.com. If you find any objectionable or offensive posts made by members of this forum which you would like to bring to our notice for removal then please Contact Us.
 


Copyright © 2001 - 2008, Traderji.com All Rights Reserved.

Recommended Websites - www.TradersEdgeIndia.com - www.TradingPicks.com - www.HiFiVision.com - www.MasterOfTrading.com - www.NotebookTalk.com